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Report, edit, etc...Posted by TealWolf on 2006-06-18 at 15:13:58
QUOTE(Mr.Camo @ Jun 16 2006, 08:27 PM)
Ear drums rupturing vs. not having them rupture? Hmm..
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Ear drums rupturing eh? if it did that do you think it would have been used by police to get the attention of kids, I highly doubt it but this is a wierd use of science.

I did get kicks out of playin it and looking around to notcie my parents not being able to hear it, then asking my mom if she could and her lying(cuz i turned it off when i asked her).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-06-18 at 15:30:14
QUOTE(Kellodood @ Jun 18 2006, 09:08 AM)
You owned me because I'm not going to argue with a hard-headed egotistical conservative know it all?

Alright.  I guess you "owned" me (even though you cannot own me, reject)

And I ask you:  How do you know we have all this?  Because our government says?

I have a movie for you to watch: Fog Of War.

Watch that, and really see how much our government lies to us.
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Yes we watched it in class.

And really the only thing you were debating or we were debating is about each other providing sources. I just provide more reliable sources then you, if and when you ever do.

QUOTE(Kashmir @ Jun 18 2006, 09:27 AM)
LOL Chris, you are so pathetic. You just owned yourself for saying owned without probably cause. "Owned Chris, just Owned."

Have you ever read Howard Zinn's A people's history of the united states?
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/Peo...story_Zinn.html
There ya go, most if not all of it.

Now lets delve deeper, into the "a peoples war" chapter.
Just in case the site is down, here it is.
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Yes we read it in class.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-18 at 17:25:57
Well, if you regularly browse our Concepts forum, this isn't so much breaking news, but it's news nonetheless.

Thanks in part to our modding genius DiscipleOfAdun, the creative wheels with EUD conditions are back in motion.

The offsets are being sorted out, and some are complete.

My online program MemCalc has been updated with a module specifically for EUD Conditions, and a second Starforge trigger generator will be added soon to specifically make triggers to detect a byte value. You can currently find the location for any unit property given its LocalID.

Also, LegacyWeapon's Uber@tion 2 has updated data files for the current shift of offsets.

FAQ
Are EUD Actions back?
No

What does this mean?
You can now use EUD condtions again with the current patch (1.13f), so maps can yet again become more complex.

Finally, I'd like to ask if anyone has 1.13f offsets for things not included in MemCalc, please PM them to me.

If you're not sure what EUDs are, some resources are linked here:
Original EUD Action Tutorial
Uber@tion 2 tutorial
Original Topic

Rejoice!


LW: Fixed tutorial link.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-06-18 at 17:37:03
Thanks for making a news post thanking your team closedeyes.gif

I'd like to thank:
Deathknight for being so supportive of uBe2 and designing the original awesome EUD editor.
Mr_Mooo_Cow(U) for being the man to go to for memory offsets. And for making a tool for me to checking the LocalID of the unit I was clicking on.
yoni45 for pushing me to update them. He was pretty forceful and he got me to get off my lazy ass and update them tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-06-18 at 17:37:43
Yay.

Maybe you guys could put this below the mapping contest so you dont' lose any activity in it?

Hope no more patches come XD
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Noober on 2006-06-18 at 17:41:00
So, is there like a detailed tutorial of what EUDs are, what they do, how to use them, etc? I've never used them before, so I'm a n00b.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-06-18 at 17:46:12
Kashmir, the views of the webpage is generally "left wing" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Now!). I'm not saying it's a bad source but finding one that comes from all over would be the best.

TheDaddy0420, I'd very much like to see the sources for your claims. You know, for this:
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If Im not mistaken there is already a Red Cross station in Gitmo, they did have complaints awhile ago, but not now since they were let in to inspect. Im pretty sure of that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-06-18 at 18:01:15
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I don't have many problems with the gay community, unless they start pushing all this gay rights stuff in my face (yes, I know it's the only way they'll achieve equality)

What?! Them pushing their beliefs on you is the exact opposite of equality! If they did that, I would sue their butts. Right now, their rights have been taken away; that's why it's such a "problem".

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The church can do whatever they want about gay marriage for all I care.

Marriages are not always done by the church. Technically, they don't actually have power in controlling who can be married with whom.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-06-18 at 18:30:39
will EUD actions EVER be back is what i want to know coz i was just a small nub when they was out so i didnt know what they did, how to use them or anything :s
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-06-18 at 18:47:46
EUD actions will not likely return, and if they do they will be patched. People found ways to load viruses with them, and blizzard patched them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-06-18 at 20:01:41
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Jun 18 2006, 04:00 PM)
What?! Them pushing their beliefs on you is the exact opposite of equality! If they did that, I would sue their butts. Right now, their rights have been taken away; that's why it's such a "problem".
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Them pushing their beliefs is the only way for them to get their rights because activism usually leads to drastic changes. Look at other civil rights movements in the past. They were only possible through activism.
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Jun 18 2006, 04:00 PM)
Marriages are not always done by the church. Technically, they don't actually have power in controlling who can be married with whom.
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Many, if not most, marriages are done by the church, I'm not saying every single one is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kp.ZpfW-PanzerIII on 2006-06-18 at 20:03:17
We'll, I recently watched a show about capital punishment and such, and it stated that after the American Rev. the americans wanted to reform all of there European ways, like all those brutal punishments the un inlightened Europeans performed. So they started with a series of unorganized prisons, then after the admendment of the bill of rights they started more seemingly humane ways of punishment eventually leading to the creation of the electric chair.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-06-18 at 21:10:32
I find the most important things in this link are the red cross part, and all the way at the bottom the sources are actually CITED.

Actually read all of it.

For Cheeze
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-18 at 21:16:53
QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Jun 18 2006, 02:36 PM)
Thanks for making a news post thanking your team closedeyes.gif

I'd like to thank:
Deathknight for being so supportive of uBe2 and designing the original awesome EUD editor.
Mr_Mooo_Cow(U) for being the man to go to for memory offsets. And for making a tool for me to checking the LocalID of the unit I was clicking on.
yoni45 for pushing me to update them. He was pretty forceful and he got me to get off my lazy ass and update them tongue.gif
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I was just too lazy to sift through your posts and find your helpers tongue.gif

I said thanks in part.


QUOTE(Noober @ Jun 18 2006, 02:40 PM)
So, is there like a detailed tutorial of what EUDs are, what they do, how to use them, etc? I've never used them before, so I'm a n00b.
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Did you check the links? EUD Conditions allow maps to read the Starcraft RAM.


QUOTE(Shocko @ Jun 18 2006, 03:30 PM)
will EUD actions EVER be back is what i want to know coz i was just a small nub when they was out so i didnt know what they did, how to use them or anything :s
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No. Blizzard specifically patched out EUD actions, as they could be used for malicious purposes.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-06-18 at 21:26:04
You couldn't post this before the contest, could you? tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-18 at 21:28:04
Repost the contest and move the posts; then delete the original thread.

Not my fault the contest started before I got back from vacation.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-06-18 at 21:36:07
Your claim doesn't match your evidence. That site simply proves that "Charlie Went Down to Gitmo." It doesn't prove anything about the Red Cross actually being there.

As the article says it self:
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Charlie Daniels' descriptions of the physical condition and behavior of the prisoners he observed at Guantanamo Bay were similar to those of others who had visited or been assigned to that site:


However, never does the article mention a guarantee that the International Red Cross examining the place, which was your claim.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-06-18 at 21:53:18
Just had to make a news post didn't you? What happens when a Blizzard employee says, "I wonder what those sketchy illegitimate childs are up to now?" And clicks onto SeN? He sees this on the fron tpage and patches us out again.... sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-18 at 22:15:55
Blizzard doesn't have a reason to patch EUD conditions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-06-18 at 22:21:36
They want us to suffer and not have any fun.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp(U) on 2006-06-18 at 22:43:50
gggggeeeeaaarrrrrrate.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp(U) on 2006-06-18 at 23:24:29
Wow! I never thought anything can be so high pitched! That hurts lol! I should go test it on my mom. LoL.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SuperToast on 2006-06-18 at 23:35:17
Blizzard doesn't care about us at all, plus or minus. They only patched EUD actions to protect themselves since supposedly you could make "viruses" (which I'm still not beleiving is entirely true).

Way to go on updating them, but have fun when Blizzard patches again.

That's my main problem with EUD anything, one patch and your map is broken. And the still annoying bits about having my EUD action maps broken... but that's more of a personal scar wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-06-18 at 23:39:17
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The truth of the matter is that this operation is under a microscope. The Red Cross has an on-site presence and watches everything that goes on very closely.

Thats not enough?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Lead_Factor on 2006-06-19 at 00:18:25
Halleluja! I can finally finish my map lol.
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