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Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-02-06 at 23:17:36

Goddamn, Dk has to argue with everything doesn't he? That's okay, I was going to before you and SI went at it

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Anyways, these new features may have me actually use SCMDraft, becuase I get no run time errors - ever - from StarForge.

To me, anyway, StarForge + SCXE can do everything SCMD can, plus more.

And that brings us to "Why use SCXE?" Becuase I can, becuase I've been using it for as long as I can remember. So that means I'd be using SCMD and SCXE. But SF + SCXE > SCMD + SCXE. Basic math.

Fact and opinion, folks.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-07 at 19:13:04

Why Rexy that was really to the point!

SI;
You said the MAC version will be released first, what Mac OS will it run under, and will it contain a version of TrigEdit?

Are there updates to TrigEdit?

Also from my last use of SCMD2 Internal have you fixed the problem of the text size being affected by the Zoom and the huge lag caused by the Zoom?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-07 at 19:23:44

QUOTE(.Coko[CK] @ Feb 7 2005, 07:13 PM)

Why Rexy that was really to the point!
SI;
You said the MAC version will be released first, what Mac OS will it run under, and will it contain a version of TrigEdit?

Are there updates to TrigEdit?

Also from my last use of SCMD2 Internal have you fixed the problem of the text size being affected by the Zoom and the huge lag caused by the Zoom?
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Mac version is being done for Os X, not sure which OS X release, I dont even know what the latest is, was it 3 or 4? Darkwizzard will have to say.

No updates to trigedit yet, current plan is mac scmdraft then redo trigedit for mac and PC at the same time.

Zoom works by rendering into an enlarges buffer and then resizing, so the text would stay the same size, however we are going to change the text output system.

What are your comp specs again, zoom may lag depending on ram and CPU speed, I am working on optimizing the render engine even more but there is a limit, if you zoom out far enough scmdraft has to rerender all changed parts of the entire map per frame so it can slow down.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarkWizzard on 2005-02-08 at 13:01:11

QUOTE(Suicidal Insanity @ Feb 8 2005, 02:23 AM)

not sure what will be the minimum osX version yet, i am doing development on 10.3.5 so everything >= that should be fine.

si> you forgot the break between macport and resuming trigedit work that i told you about

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-08 at 13:24:34

QUOTE(DarkWizzard @ Feb 8 2005, 01:01 PM)

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no I intentionaly glossed over it so the users can assume the break is you fixing all the bugs in mac scmdraft and not playing FFXI and HL2

Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-02-08 at 17:33:52

Actually DK, the flipped this applies because it draws the sprite flipped in starcraft and starforge doesn't have that. It just displays the sprite it has in its files.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-08 at 19:34:40

QUOTE(ShadowBrood @ Feb 8 2005, 05:33 PM)

Actually DK, the flipped this applies because it draws the sprite flipped in starcraft and starforge doesn't have that. It just displays the sprite it has in its files.
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I believe the flip only applies to alpha and beta starcraft hence its useless for 99% of scmdraft users. I may remove its prominant position or somehow reinforce the notion that that flag has been deprecated by an iscript opcode.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2005-02-10 at 01:47:33

*Starts palpitating at the thought of SCMDraft Mac version* Any projected release date (nothing specific, maybe just a month or something) for the Mac version, or are all us Mac users going to be kept in suspense up until the day it is released?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by axblader on 2005-02-12 at 23:26:06

you all make Camsy sound like and "age" lol...liek the middle ages...everytime i say it im like...wow...a dynasty! but then i realize its not after that....

werent they the ones that made xtra and a bunch of other programs?

too bad they arent on anymore...

im too late!!!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-12 at 23:30:18

QUOTE(DevliN @ Feb 10 2005, 01:47 AM)

DW and I are finishing the recode of scmdraft 2 (basicly he is looking at my code saying it looks ugly) that the engine and GUI code is completely split. Once this is the case for the mac version he just needs to make the windows and tell em to call the unified functions, so a month, maybe less should be accurate for the first version (probably not even beta but still)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-14 at 06:05:08

axblader;

CamSys was gone about 2/3 years ago, or at least was basically dead by then, the major progress was from 1998, to 2001, for the MODing programs, although at SAMods they've started things up again, albeit a little slowly.

Windows and MAC's share similar functions? Crazy...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-14 at 09:07:42

QUOTE(.Coko[CK)

,Feb 14 2005, 06:05 AM]axblader;

CamSys was gone about 2/3 years ago, or at least was basically dead by then, the major progress was from 1998, to 2001, for the MODing programs, although at SAMods they've started things up again, albeit a little slowly.

Windows and MAC's share similar functions? Crazy...
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I think SA is just making mods and not programs for mods, I could be wrong.
camsys made stuff like stardraft tileedit stargraft arsenal 3 etc, then when I was staff scmdraft 1...

most of the code will be identical for windows and macs, that way DW doesn't have to change anything everytime I fix bugs or add featrures but rather he can just grab the new files and recompile. Its taken a while to redesign the core to work like this but it will be worth it in the future.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-15 at 14:05:31

How about the update procedures if these ever become a Norm?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-16 at 09:49:21

QUOTE(.Coko[CK] @ Feb 15 2005, 02:05 PM)

How about the update procedures if these ever become a Norm?
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huh?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-02-19 at 18:55:28

[center]I believe he's talking about an automated software update thing, like BahamutZERO always puts in his stuff.[/center]

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-19 at 19:00:59

QUOTE(nuclearrabbit @ Feb 19 2005, 06:55 PM)

[center]I believe he's talking about an automated software update thing, like BahamutZERO always puts in his stuff.[/center]
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you mean like the option in the advanced menu "check for new version" which then offers to download it for you?
the one that has been in there for ages?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-20 at 09:28:47

No, because that doesn't get through my ultra cool firewall

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-20 at 09:44:32

QUOTE(.Coko[CK] @ Feb 20 2005, 09:28 AM)

No, because that doesn't get through my ultra cool firewall

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hm, it should, it just checks the website on port 80.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-02-23 at 14:41:51

since everyone asks what I code it in, how about a screenshot

Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-02-23 at 17:58:14

[center]C++, of course. What other language lets you do so much in such little space?
*nuclearrabbit starts stealing code for his editor...*
That code doesn't give me anything, poo.
SI DOUBLE POSTED, BAN HIM!!!
Anyway... How about some pics of some parts of the unreleased version, or more from the mac version?[/center]

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-02-24 at 18:22:48

QUOTE(nuclearrabbit @ Feb 23 2005, 05:58 PM)

YOu are allowed to double post. If it lets your double post then you are allowed to.

Anyways, the screen shots looks nice. At first when I downloaded the beta versions of it a few months back I expected all those options. Since I can't..I must wait for this to come out....

Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-25 at 09:04:21

Its actually pretty good, thus why we've not found huge amounts of bugs, and most have been minor things, i'm good for finding menu's and options that don't work

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2005-02-28 at 23:09:26

QUOTE(.Coko[CK] @ Feb 25 2005, 08:04 AM)

Its actually pretty good, thus why we've not found huge amounts of bugs, and most have been minor things, i'm good for finding menu's and options that don't work

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I am pretty good at finding bugs also but most of the ones I find are small glitches that crash programs

Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-03-01 at 12:08:31

Rare to find them with SI, though he cheats and has On Error code so that i can't see what lovely RunTime and such the program has broken.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-03-01 at 12:56:54

QUOTE(.Coko[CK] @ Mar 1 2005, 12:08 PM)

Rare to find them with SI, though he cheats and has On Error code so that i can't see what lovely RunTime and such the program has broken.
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even without it you would only get stuff like access violations....

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