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Report, edit, etc...Posted by D)s-202 on 2005-06-29 at 16:13:43
QUOTE(Bringer(MC) @ Jun 27 2005, 07:18 PM)
Since I own both I can safely say the DS is better. The PSP is just pure crap and if you have like 1/3rd battery life left then your game starts to slow down and same with movies or songs they start to skip of slow down. The PSP even with everything turned down only gets around 5 to 6hrs of battery life which is pathetic for what I paided. The DS gets around 10 to 12hrs of battery life. As of games go both Handhelds have shit for games and that is the honest truth. The load times on the PSP are insane for alot of the games too. Also Sony does try to make people follow them. Why you think they bought stock in MGM? So they would make thier movies on Blu-Ray instead of on HD-DVD.  Did I mention my PSP already has a scratch on the screen yet my DS which I stroke vigoursly with a Stylus has no scratchs. Where is my full featured online support Sony promised? You can play online but half the time its to laggy to really enjoy it. The DS is better as of now. It does what it is supposed to do while the PSP barely plays games right. In time my Opinion might change or when the DS gets more games like it will this fall and has online then I may just trade my PSP in if it is still worth anything.
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ok.. this is weird but i agree a DS is MUCH better then a PSP a psp has everything a ds doesnt have. But a ds nis going 2 have same thing psp is going 2 have a movie player game it already has u can chat with other people even starcraft coming out for ds i think ds is beeter w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Jordan on 2005-06-29 at 16:25:00
i would have to say DS because it looks more into the same style that nitendo has had for years which makes it memorized. the psp has so many buttons every where!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-06-29 at 18:44:27
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jun 28 2005, 11:54 AM)
How can you tell if Acid 2 is going to suck when you haven't played it?  Especially considering you didn't like the first one.  I dont know about you, but I like the idea of Acid and I want to play it.
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He said the first one sucked, but implies that the sequel can be better. People do have mixed reviews of acid, but at least they are trying something new. If I was to get a PSP, I would get Wipeout. Not too sure about the others games however. My friend traded in his Untold Legends, saying it's not worth it and NFSU Rivals is pretty bland in my tastes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-30 at 02:00:25
QUOTE(Revelade @ Jun 29 2005, 05:44 PM)
He said the first one sucked, but implies that the sequel can be better. People do have mixed reviews of acid, but at least they are trying something new. If I was to get a PSP, I would get Wipeout. Not too sure about the others games however. My friend traded in his Untold Legends, saying it's not worth it and NFSU Rivals is pretty bland in my tastes.
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I've never played a sequal to a game I thought sucked and thought the second was better. It's always the other way around. I play a game that owns and then the sequal sucks. Though when the game switches companies, I dont even acknowledge the game being made by the other company as existing, because it's usually pure crap.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FrAZ428 on 2005-06-30 at 07:31:59
Sequels almost all ways sucks, but if they don't suck, they rock. Prequels all ways rock.
Follow-ups and continuations just get better as you go along. Nintendo however has so played the wheels off their characters and plowed them into the ground that they don't even touch on representing the originals. It's really annoying, and very sad.

Hell, since they 64 they haven't had a good game that's been an off-shot of any of their main shit. Besides, characters that have tried to be made 3d after being a success in 2d usually just don't adapt well to the new environment. Sonic for example looses all its beauty when you make it 3d. Again, a sad predicament.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-30 at 10:47:25
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I vehemently disagree with that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2005-06-30 at 16:26:37
So Pikmin wasnt a success? For the 2d to 3d umm Metroid Prime did wonderfull. Not to mention the Gamecube probly has one my funnest racing games and that is F-Zero GX which is very fun and very hard with the AI cranked up. Also Chuiu the Nintendo DS has sold over 500,000 units worldwide while the PSP has only sold 100,000 units world wide so if that is only 30% behind I must be stupid as hell b/c that looks more like 50% behind in sales not to mention the GBA/SP is still selling like hotcakes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-06-30 at 19:27:22
QUOTE(Bringer(MC) @ Jun 30 2005, 03:26 PM)
So Pikmin wasnt a success? For the 2d to 3d umm Metroid Prime did wonderfull. Not to mention the Gamecube probly has one my funnest racing games and that is F-Zero GX which is very fun and very hard with the AI cranked up. Also Chuiu the Nintendo DS has sold over 500,000 units worldwide while the PSP has only sold 100,000 units world wide so if that is only 30% behind I must be stupid as hell b/c that looks more like 50% behind in sales not to mention the GBA/SP is still selling like hotcakes.
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Uh, I'd check your figures, as the DS has already sold 1 million in Europe alone...

Fraz, you do realize that Sonic is by Sega, who makes cheese games right? Zelda and Mario both did well going 3d on the 64, Metroid got numerous game of the year awards going 3d... I don't see what your complaining about.

Chu... Tekken 4 -> 5 was a good transition. 4 had new, but badly implemented mechanics. And on a lesser not, games like Madden SHOULD be getting better every year. SSX3 is way better than Tricky. Time Splitters 3 improves on 2 in many ways. There's plenty out there, you just have to look.

And the only game I was excited about on the PSP, Coded Arms, shatters any of my thoughts of a purchase.

PSP's first FPS.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-30 at 23:03:42
Xbox > PSP + DS
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-01 at 01:46:18
QUOTE(Revelade @ Jun 30 2005, 06:27 PM)
Uh, I'd check your figures, as the DS has already sold 1 million in Europe alone...

Fraz, you do realize that Sonic is by Sega, who makes cheese games right? Zelda and Mario both did well going 3d on the 64, Metroid got numerous game of the year awards going 3d... I don't see what your complaining about.

Chu... Tekken 4 -> 5 was a good transition. 4 had new, but badly implemented mechanics. And on a lesser not, games like Madden SHOULD be getting better every year. SSX3 is way better than Tricky. Time Splitters 3 improves on 2 in many ways. There's plenty out there, you just have to look.

And the only game I was excited about on the PSP, Coded Arms, shatters any of my thoughts of a purchase.

PSP's first FPS.
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I liked both 4 and 5.

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QUOTE(Bringer(MC) @ Jun 30 2005, 03:26 PM)
Also Chuiu the Nintendo DS has sold over 500,000 units worldwide while the PSP has only sold 100,000 units world wide so if that is only 30% behind I must be stupid as hell b/c that looks more like 50% behind in sales not to mention the GBA/SP is still selling like hotcakes.
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You may be right, though I guess I was being vague. I ment the current weekly sales. Since the PSP came out it has had 30% less weekly sales than the DS. Since the DS has been out much longer, the PSP is catching up slowly. Though I doubt PSP will ever sell as much as DS will.

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Oh yeah, I got my PSP today. I played a game of Twisted Metal, then I played a game of Twisted Metal online. It was awesome, I can connect to their servers and just play wirelessly online. I've already started installing hacks and stuff onto my PSP. Like custom backgrounds, etc. This is so sweet. I can't wait till I get an emulator running.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-07-01 at 02:56:13
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 1 2005, 12:46 AM)
I've already started installing hacks and stuff onto my PSP.
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And that's why Sony online gaming blows.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-01 at 09:02:42
What? No, not those kind of hacks dummy! I'm not that kind of person. I mean hacks that let me do more stuff with the PSP like change the background, etc. Sheesh.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FrAZ428 on 2005-07-01 at 18:13:47
QUOTE(Bringer(MC) @ Jun 30 2005, 04:26 PM)
So Pikmin wasnt a success? For the 2d to 3d umm Metroid Prime did wonderfull. Not to mention the Gamecube probly has one my funnest racing games and that is F-Zero GX which is very fun and very hard with the AI cranked up. Also Chuiu the Nintendo DS has sold over 500,000 units worldwide while the PSP has only sold 100,000 units world wide so if that is only 30% behind I must be stupid as hell b/c that looks more like 50% behind in sales not to mention the GBA/SP is still selling like hotcakes.
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Notice how many of those games you mentioned were third party? Metroid was OK, but it was a dissappointment to me. PSP has sold less because it's been out less long, it's more expensive, and more than that it's a totally new product, with no ancestors.

QUOTE(Revelade @ Jun 30 2005, 07:27 PM)
Fraz, you do realize that Sonic is by Sega, who makes cheese games right? Zelda and Mario both did well going 3d on the 64, Metroid got numerous game of the year awards going 3d... I don't see what your complaining about.
PSP's first FPS.
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Yes, I realize this. Mario and Zelda both did Great on the N64. That was one of my points. Then they really tried to make them 3d on the Gamecube, like Really. And now they've way overdone it.

QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 30 2005, 11:03 PM)
Xbox > PSP + DS
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-07-01 at 20:30:04
QUOTE(FrAZ428 @ Jul 1 2005, 05:13 PM)
Notice how many of those games you mentioned were third party? Metroid was OK, but it was a dissappointment to me. PSP has sold less because it's been out less long, it's more expensive, and more than that it's a totally new product, with no ancestors.


You only mentioned Sonic in your argument, in addition to focusing on Nintendo characters in the first paragraph.

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Yes, I realize this. Mario and Zelda both did Great on the N64. That was one of my points. Then they really tried to make them 3d on the Gamecube, like Really. And now they've way overdone it.


I don't understand what you mean when you say "overdone it". Please clarify.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-01 at 21:57:29
He's probably pissed off at Wind Waker and the complexity of some of Mario Sunshine's puzzles.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-04 at 00:58:11
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jun 27 2005, 11:17 PM)
I assure you price is not the major decision right here.  PSP sales are behind DS sales by about 30%, that's not a lot considering there is a $100 price difference between the two and Sony is new to the hand-held market.  Sony's reputation and the PSP's features and games are whats getting them all those sales.

I said in a thread some months ago that I wouldn't buy the PSP because this was Sony's first time on the hand-held market.  But friends and games have convinced me otherwise.  I'm getting one (I know I already stated that in this thread, I just wanted to repeat it with the previous statement).  Wipeout Pure, Twisted Metal Head On, Metal Gear AC!D ... here I come.  smile.gif
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No argument, but I am wondering why the price wouldnt matter simply because PSP is selling well? lol Doesn't matter how well they sell, thats not gonna put that extra 100$ in my pocket.

I say it depends on what you're looking for. The DS is cheaper, and from what I hear slightly more durable, but doesnt have as many features. PSP is more expensive, less battery life, but has a host of features comparable to your average DVD player.


QUOTE(neiji)
I hate ppl who say about potential... it's like saying I see potential in the PSP...


Again, Neiji, with the hating! Get some love in your heart, lad!

Personally, if I was forced to buy one of the two, I'd most likely go with the DS. Why? Because I already have an Mp3 player, and I don't watch movies that often; thus, two features of PSP have become obsolete. And the dual-screen/touch-screen idea intrigues me...okay, I'll be honest. I couldn't afford a PSP. lol. Just too expensive for a handheld...whats the price now? 200$? I could buy a low-level COMPUTER for that much, damn. What's the DS? 100$? I'd still rather buy a couple sticks of RAM, or a new video card...or finish up my sound system in my car.

Plain and simple, I dont have any interest in buying a handheld.
But for features, and for versatility, go with the PSP (just bring some back-up batteries)
For those just looking for a game, go with the DS.

(...that sounds a lot like the console race, LOL! Cept instead of Sony, insert Microsoft, and instead of Nintendo, insert Sony...(yes, I know, both the newer consoles have (are going to have) a buttload of features. Im referring the arguments for the current consoles))
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-04 at 01:04:01
Ok guys, lets face it.

The Computer owns all tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-04 at 01:25:47
LMAO! Love the signature, millenium. Thats awesome.


I didn't even notice at first, but both my alternatives for spending money were on computer components. Interesting.

Life is so fun as a hot nerd.



Anywho, there IS an advantage to handhelds over computers, or consoles...
THEYRE HANDHELDS! You can take them wherever you like, and dont an external power source (by this I mean a power socket.)

I really enjoyed my Gameboy Color. It was awesome. I had a pocket GB for a long time, but it would eat through a pair of batteries in less than a week. And that was ridiculous.

And it seems both current handhelds eat through batteries just as quick...or rather, quickER. Someone needs to hurry up and invent an effecient way of storing electricity.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-04 at 01:42:31
PSP is being owned sales-wise, but the DS is lame. There is no reason to have two screens, they could have had a small touch pad and a large screen. I don't have either, but I'll get whichever one gets the first playable online RTS.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-04 at 01:59:45
I could see an advantage to having a regular screen and another touch-screen...You know exactly where you're...uhh..touching. No guesswork. But for that, they could have just made the main screen touch-sensitive, and not included a second screen. I bet that would cut down on battery usage, too.

A couple reasons I can think of for the DS having more sales:
1. This is Sony's first handheld. And none of you Sony fanpeople can say this isnt a viable reason, because so many of you used it as a reason Xbox sucked ("Yeah, its MS's first attempt in the console world, noone wants that crap)

2. It's 100$ more.

3. Most fans of Sony prefer consoles, because handhelds are a new thing. Handhelds have always (yes, I know, they havent ALWAYS been, but whatever. I have to put this in here because of all the fanatics out there that correct anybody over anything because their preferred system/company is SOOOO much better than everyone else's.) been part of Nintendo's reputation
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-04 at 02:04:48
PS1 owned N64/Saturn, Xbox semi-owned GCN; being a newcomer isn't a valid excuse. It isn't selling because it costs too damn much for a handheld system.

By the way, my comment about having a seperate touchpad was assuming the reason that they had two screens was so you wouldn't be touching the main screen, but they could also do it as you said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-07 at 00:01:46
I personally preferred my N64 over my Psx.

Zero-load times are so nice...we should bring them back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-07 at 11:25:19
Nintendo never got rid of them. All Nintendo products have 0 load times.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-07-08 at 01:10:04
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 7 2005, 10:25 AM)
Nintendo never got rid of them.  All Nintendo products have 0 load times.
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Not the cube.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-08 at 19:58:37
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 7 2005, 10:25 AM)
Nintendo never got rid of them.  All Nintendo products have 0 load times.
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Uhh...since when???

Any current hardware that runs on CD's has a loading time.
Gamecube definitely has a loading time.


Ooh! Ooh! One more thing DS has over PSP!

No loading times!!
lol...


(DS DOES use cartridges, right?)

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which is also an advantage for PSP...can have much more content on a single disc, compared to a GBA cartridge.
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