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Okay, my philosophy for this is- if you're feeling bored, start a good argument but anyway, i kinda want to know what everyone thinks of the two game systems from playstation and nintendo. If you think this is then sorry.

PSP > DS

so taKE that all you people who think i hate sony and playstation and stuff.

It's better but it's way to over priced. DS is stupid in my opinion... ..

PSP, it's obvious.
Yeah it has a low battery life, that is if you put max volume, max brightness, and max everything to soak up all it's energy, plus you shouldn't be playing it for more then 3 hours.
PSP has movies (which you have to buy seperatly, you can't just pop in RedvsBlue in the PSP and watch it) which are good for road trips, airplane rides, and stuff like that. It doesn't have that many great games out right now, but Librety City Stories is coming out, but there are some good games here and there, Metal Gear Acid is ok, other games are cool.
The DS has games THAT YOU CAN TOUCH, wow isn't that so cool. Snoozer most of the games just use the "creativity" of touching stuff and repeat it 20 times for 30 minutes of boring gameplay.

They might come out with more battery life and built in memory up to like 40 GB... THE IPOD KILLER!!!

I think the DS is functionally better than the PSP but the PSP certainly has more features to it and it certainly looks a lot better. Plus some of the games for PSP freakin' own. I'm going to get one in like ... next week. Heh.

PSP can do many things, but it can't do one thing RIGHT. Take the UMD movies for example:

UMD - http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod...terid=114402904

DVD - http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod...terid=114402903

Both forms cost about the same, but the PSP is slightly higher. Once more, there is less space for extra features and whatever nonsense in a UMD then a DVD. Screenwise, I rather watch this on my DVD player on my WIDE screen TV, than squint my eyes on the PSP screen. Finally, if you do watch this on the PSP, guess what, your batteries will be dead, or nearly dead, by the time the movies over...

Another thing I don't like about the PSP is that the screen is prone to scratches, smudges. It makes me wonder how people pay over $200 for a machine that's so fragile.

The "nub" isn't analog. It's just a sliding disc that is more of a gimmick, than practical. I find using the d-pad gives more control and feels better.

Let's be honest here: whos going to run outside and say to people, "HEY FRIENDS, LOOK AT MY PICTARS!" I mean sure it's a nice feature, but unless your a porn addict, I don't feel it's important.

32mb is a joke for holding music. Unless you only hold MIDI songs, at most, you will be able to hold 10 songs at the average song length of 3 minutes. Then again, you need space for your save files, photos and possibly videos. Speaking of videos, have fun watching short clips as well. You can only have so much fun when watching poor quality mpeg, when other formats like DivX is so much better, which of course won't fit on there. I feel sorry for how much crap the owners are going to stuff the little memory stick with.

But these are minor complaints. The only thing I distaste about the PSP is that it's by Sony. What I mean by this is their unreliability and their stubborn policy of using their own formats. It's not just in game systems, but also in memory sticks, computers and cameras. They give you lots of features that aren't so great, but you will have to bust out additional bucks to get a bigger memory card, multitap, because some genius decided PS2 owners would be loners, and other problems. The only true way to get your money out of the PSP is by getting a larger memory stick, but you have to be willing to pay another $100. My friend had to return his PSP TWICE before he got one without a dead pixel. So the PSP is a great thing in sense, but I despise Sony.

Anyway, with the DS, you have reliability, creative games and potential.

Nintendo has never been known to have defective products, ever since the first Nintendo. Their products last and remain to do so, as proven by the GBA and cube.

Innovation is all about Nintendo. There are ignorant people here, but the fact is that NOT ALL THE GAMES USE THE TOUCH SCREEN. Before you start accusing, get your facts straight. I say, give the DS a year, and see what churns out. Developers have yet to exploit the true possibilities of this machine. Also, the DS plays FPS games MUCH better than the PSP, thanks to the touch screen that lets players pinpoint EXACTLY where they want to shoot.

Also included is a microphone which opens new doors to voice activated games. Once the DS goes online, you can chat with other players. As for the 2 screens, it's something I'm not a big fan of, but at least both are protected when the DS is closed, compared to the easily damaged PSP screen.

Pricewise, you get a better deal with the DS as it IS cheaper and the games are $20 cheaper, which will be important in the long run. Every 3 PSP games gets you 5 DS games.

Battery life, as you all know, is where DS wins as well, 10 hours with lights, 15 and possibly more without light.

I'll have to save my judgement until the time where the DS goes online, as it's too early to tell. I don't need extra junk like minimized movies, family pictures, or music. I can buy devices like the Ipod for that. I want to play games and that's what the DS is all about.

I haven't had a problem with any of my Sony products not working on me. Except my PS2, which stopped working only months ago ... but It didnt matter because I wanted the slim one. Using their own formats? They started the trend of using CDs. Thats not using their own format, thats expanding the market. People hated Nintendo because they were restricted to the cartridges, then Sony releases their system and people are like "OMG PRODUCTION COST DECREASE!!". When PS2 came out, you could use any USB utility with it, you could play games on DVDs or CDs and make them on either aswell. And you had memory card compatability with the previous system.

The PSP's memory works on flash sticks, the same standard sticks you find in digital cameras EVERYWHERE. Not only does this make it easier for people to find good prices on memory, but it's lets people use sticks as large as 2GB (this will most likely increase over time). And the PSP has usb support and wifi support. The only problem I have is the UMD disc. However, since the UMD format has been cracked you can rely on people being able to burn their own PSP discs with stuff like emulated games and shit. I've already seen an emulator made to play SNES games on the PSP (or maybe it was NES...).

Anyway...

PSP sucks the movies are so-so, the videos and mp3s are cool but its card is so small its not worth it, and new cards are super pricy, and its games suck, so PSP<DS and DS is owning PSP in sales.

The DS has the power of millions of fans on it's side. Nintendo has always been great in the handheld market. Though the PSP has many more functions than the DS, it can only preform it half-assed. The DS gets the points in gameplay, but that's ALL it can do. They really need to merge the two machines, then gamers around the world would rejoice. Except for X-box fans. They can rot for all I care.

Trust me, they have tried to force people to join their formats. You know VHS, aka video cassetes? Well, Sony tried to influence people to join their format, I think it was BHS, or something. And we all know which format won.

I don't think Sony tries to force people into anything. Releasing an alternate format for something isn't forcing, it's creating a new market. One which has the potential to grow or die. The fact that Sony is not only releasing Blue-Ray but fitting the PS3 to read them tells me that Blue-Ray may be the next-gen. If it isn't then HD-DVD is.

Sony is a leader, not a follower. It starts everything, then others follow along with it. PS2 used CD cases for their games and DVD cases for their games also.

I hate ppl who say about potential... it's like saying I see potential in the PSP...

Sorry for replying late but
My ps2 wouldnt read alot of discs after about 4 years, so sony gave me a new one... For free... Well, whatever.


PSP pwnts DS, and i dont feel like repeating myself.... so, I'll keep it at that.

Yeah, mine stoped working sometime in december, and I've had it since it first came out. I can't return it and get a new one because I installed a mod chip to play japan-only released games (which a local retailer always has stock of ^_^).

But anyway, my opinion is I just want a gaming machine, not some multimedia hubaloo, and that's why I'm satisfied with the DS. Hopefully, we may get to see how FPS's perform on the DS, compared to the PSP later on. Also, online will be available for the DS in a few months, so keep that in mind. And also, you can buy products that allow your DS to store music, pictures and movies as well.

Yeah, my Sony Vaio came with... everything Sony. Neither the DVD or CD Drives AutoPlay anymore. Everything is manual. The screen is decent enough, the speakers were shit, and the motherboard is enough to drive me crazy.

My brother's first PS2 lasted about a year and a half before it started to smoke and ruin his first copy of Final Fantasy 10. They wanted him to pay like $100 in shipping to send it back to them so they could send him another for another $100 shipping fee, so he just bought a new one. Neither did they replace the game. The new PS2 didn't read discs after 2 months, and by that time the stupid 30 day in-store warranty had expired, and my brother didn't feel like paying an exuberant amount of money in shipping, not to mention waiting, so he bought his third and final PS2. Thankfully that has lasted him a few years (it still runs fine), and his second copy of Final Fantasy 10 has as well.

Just remember, PCs will always > Consoles. So does it matter? No.

And I thought ppl bought Xbox 360 cuz it can do all that multimedia crap...

*want to buy...

PSP owns DS, but I think buying either of them is a waste of time. Espeically cause DS has hardly any games for it and no good games.

I think DS owns PSP because PSP is too pricey, even though i have both. The DS has more fun using the DS stylist on the screen, then just using regular buttons u see every day on a PSP if you have a Playstation 2 or something.

Anubis j00 noob Wario Ware owns its so random.

PSP<DS

The PSP have some problems like some of its pixels go out and there's a black dot on the screen, plus who would want to watch a DVD on that small of a screen, unless your on a trip...

Since I own both I can safely say the DS is better. The PSP is just pure crap and if you have like 1/3rd battery life left then your game starts to slow down and same with movies or songs they start to skip of slow down. The PSP even with everything turned down only gets around 5 to 6hrs of battery life which is pathetic for what I paided. The DS gets around 10 to 12hrs of battery life. As of games go both Handhelds have shit for games and that is the honest truth. The load times on the PSP are insane for alot of the games too. Also Sony does try to make people follow them. Why you think they bought stock in MGM? So they would make thier movies on Blu-Ray instead of on HD-DVD. Did I mention my PSP already has a scratch on the screen yet my DS which I stroke vigoursly with a Stylus has no scratchs. Where is my full featured online support Sony promised? You can play online but half the time its to laggy to really enjoy it. The DS is better as of now. It does what it is supposed to do while the PSP barely plays games right. In time my Opinion might change or when the DS gets more games like it will this fall and has online then I may just trade my PSP in if it is still worth anything.

I assure you price is not the major decision right here. PSP sales are behind DS sales by about 30%, that's not a lot considering there is a $100 price difference between the two and Sony is new to the hand-held market. Sony's reputation and the PSP's features and games are whats getting them all those sales.

I said in a thread some months ago that I wouldn't buy the PSP because this was Sony's first time on the hand-held market. But friends and games have convinced me otherwise. I'm getting one (I know I already stated that in this thread, I just wanted to repeat it with the previous statement). Wipeout Pure, Twisted Metal Head On, Metal Gear AC!D ... here I come.

Metal Gear Ac!d sucks, but the Metal Gear Ac!d 2 is coming out. It's gonna be awesome. And, get Metal Gear 3: Subsistance for PS2. It has online play!

How can you tell if Acid 2 is going to suck when you haven't played it? Especially considering you didn't like the first one. I dont know about you, but I like the idea of Acid and I want to play it.