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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-28 at 12:00:58

Because they are morons.

Democrats care for everyone. That's what is so cool.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-30 at 01:58:42

QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 26 2005, 10:50 PM)

Leftists have no care for the best people: those who produce wealth.
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Lefties only care about rich people? I hope that's not what you're saying. Have you heard of the civil rights movement? You think right wing people were the leaders of that?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-30 at 02:07:07

He's saying that leftists don't care for the best people in this country. Those best people being the ones who produce wealth.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-07-30 at 08:03:51

The ones thatproduce wealth for your party and themselves, yeah, the really important people who make up a small percent of the population and let you drive your fast cars and have your fancy cars will the ice caps melt, the oil supplies slowly creep towards nonexistence, and the budget racks up to new highs. Yeah, the people who produce "wealth". Nice job on being vague, and nice job on being shallow. How about trying to improve the lives of the majority, instead of just the WASPS? How are they the best people? Because they're not "Kikes, Nig.gers, Spics, and Fa.gs"?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-30 at 11:07:02

Ihatett doesn't care about people whatsoever. He has no humane values.

More care should be placed on the best classes: those who do the most work.

If the wages and salaries were relative to the amount of work, the classes would be flipped.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 11:19:38

QUOTE(Wilhelm @ Jul 30 2005, 05:03 AM)

Umm..... The people who produce wealth are the middle and lower class..... The rich snobs hardly produce wealth and rely on the middle and lower class for them to get their things.

For example: Farmers. Usually towards the bottom of the chain because this nation is screwing them over when they are the most important people in the nation.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-07-30 at 12:11:37

Democrats and Communists are the same? Why was there a Cold War, containment of Communism, Red Scares, etc?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2005-07-30 at 12:59:40

Yes comrades! TAKE OVER THE OFFICE! FOR THE MOTHERLAND!

I'm a democrat, and Kellimus is right. Republicans don't give a :poo: about anyone but themselves.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 15:17:19

The most well-off people in the country (business owners, general entrepeneurs) got to where they are because of hard work and determination. They aren't lazy slobs who can't wait until Friday after work; they give everything extra effort, and try their best to beter themselves.

People who never move up are in their position not because working hard, but because of the lack thereof.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-07-30 at 18:13:14

Five of the top ten richest Americans got their wealth by inheritance. Honestly, it doesn't matter how much "hard work" they do, how can someone from a family without enough money for food ever get an education or a decent job? Most don't, so we attempt to support them.

It seems you think these "unworthy" people should be stamped out.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 19:16:45

QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jul 30 2005, 05:13 PM)

Source?

Plus, that is only ten people. Here is a site that says only 10% of the richest people inherited it, but I remember hearing something around 2%.

http://www.beststeps.com/Beststep.cfm?bs=878

In addition, hard work does pay off for the poor.

There are millions upon millions of success stories in the United States where dirt poor people (often immigrants) have become very, very succesful; it's people like you who think that the lazy should be allowed to steal from those who work hard.

Stupid socialists.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-30 at 20:52:39

Hate, if you're gonna copy off my avatar, do it right. It's not ":censored: Socialists" It's ":censored: National Socialists" There's a difference between Nazis and socialism. I'm amazed your condescending self did not know this. Unless you're saying

socialists AND national socialists.

And how can you assume that dt is socialist? You need to get your head out of your ass. Just cause someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't make them socialist. Ok?

Stupid Condescending ass holes.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 21:03:22

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Hate, if you're gonna copy off my avatar, do it right. It's not ":censored: Socialists" It's ":censored: National Socialists"

And why would that be? You don't even have words on your pic, so why should I be forced to write mine when you have none to write?

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There's a difference between Nazis and socialism.

Correct, because Nazis are a subset of socialists. Still, that doesn't make my comment any less valid; I am able to hate both Nazis and other socialists.

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I'm amazed your condescending self did not know this. Unless you're saying

socialists AND national socialists.

Of course I know that; I know more than you about socialism. See my comment above if you are still confused.

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And how can you assume that dt is socialist? You need to get your head out of your ass. Just cause someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't make them socialist. Ok?

Correct. Someone is able to disagree on matters other than economics and not be a socialist; for example, I hate zerg, but those who like zerg are in not socialist because of it.

What does make you a socialist is believing that the succesful should be robbed of the fruits of their labor, which is what he and several other people (including you) want.

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Stupid Condescending ass holes.

You and me both, apparently.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-30 at 21:22:07

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I am able to hate both Nazis and other socialists.

Who the hell said you couldn't?

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Correct, because Nazis are a subset of socialists. Still, that doesn't make my comment any less valid; I am able to hate both Nazis and other socialists.

Of course I know that; I know more than you about socialism. See my comment above if you are still confused.

Ya, you really know a lot more than me with that simple comment. I mean, when you use the words "subset of socialists." I'm just blown away.

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What does make you a socialist is believing that the succesful should be robbed of the fruits of their labor, which is what he and several other people (including you) want.

No, what make me socialist is for other reasons, I would list them, but that would create 2-10 page debate most likely me admitting I'm wrong if I am, or you not admiting you're wrong if you are.

And the rich don't deserve all of the money they have. A lot of it is from lieing, cheating, and overall screwing other people over. What is the honest point of having 20+ million dollars to yourself? Why does a person need that much money? Honestly. And if you're gonna stand here and tell me that big buisness people of America got their buisness the honest way, you are more naive than a 5 year old girl.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-07-30 at 21:25:51

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There are millions upon millions of success stories in the United States where dirt poor people (often immigrants) have become very, very succesful; it's people like you who think that the lazy should be allowed to steal from those who work hard.

"Millions"? Source? What percentage of dirt poor people do you think actually become rich. If I step down to a city 20 miles from where I live, the graduation rate is 48%. Students are three times more likely to go to prison than to college. 20% of teenage girls become pregnant.

Perhaps 1 kid in 2 millions of these poor people can strike it rich. There are more rich people that squander their money and are dumped into poverty than there are poor people who become rich.

The students can't afford college tuition. Their public schools are in terrible disrepair, lacking good teachers and textbooks. They can't learn. A very lucky few make it to college on sports scholarships.

The rest choose a easier way of getting money -- crime.

Again, it seems you think poor people are unworthy of living.

EDIT: Source for me? Look at the Forbes 400 richest in america. 5 of the top 10 are Walton descendants who inherited the WalMart fortune.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 21:27:51

Most business people really don't cheat. The ones that do rarely get far, and when they do the intense scrutiny on them makes them crash and burn.

Most people (and businesses) become succesful for offering what the consumer wants. Look at Wal-Mart; that's a prime example.

You just don't like that fact that the people you see who have more money than you reall deserve it. You don't want to blame yourself.

I'm not really going to respond to your other comments because they are not at all threatening to the correct side (they are written for the sake of being written). One thing I should note is that you are being a bit dishonest by not showing the break in one of your quotes of mine where I was responding to your comment (the forum removes quoted quotes, and you don't show that that's what happened, which looks strange).

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 21:32:22

QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 30 2005, 06:27 PM)

Most business people really don't cheat. The ones that do rarely get far, and when they do the intense scrutiny on them makes them crash and burn.
Most people (and businesses) become succesful for offering what the consumer wants. Look at Wal-Mart; that's a prime example.

You just don't like that fact that the people you see who have more money than you reall deserve it. You don't want to blame yourself.
I'm not really going to respond to your other comments because they are not at all threatening to the correct side (they are written for the sake of being written). One thing I should note is that you are being a bit dishonest by not showing the break in one of your quotes of mine where I was responding to your comment (the forum removes quoted quotes, and you don't show that that's what happened, which looks strange).
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Umm.... Care to prove that first sentance?

Bill Gates cheated and lied, and even STOLE from Macintosh to make windows.

Hmm.........

I hate people who have more money than me because they are snobby :censored:es. When I become rich, i'm actaully going to teach my kids to have some integrity and i'm going to give to charity every day that I can because I DON'T NEED large amounts of money.

And not to be rude or anything, but you ALWAYS think you're right and everyone else is wrong. Ever took into consideration that some times it may be the other way around?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 21:35:54

DT: Its common knowledge that this country was built on immigrants exponentially increasing their wealth. It's like asking me to find a source proving that America is a country.

Also, I agree to some extent that the broken government school system screws over the poor. Your comments are further proof that we need to privatize schools, and allow people to help the poor of their own will.

You, on the other hand, have no problem robbing me of my money against my will. Thanks, man.

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Bill Gates cheated and lied, and even STOLE from Macintosh to make windows.

First of all, NO. He did not cheat, lie, or steal from anyone along the process. I'd love for you to tell us what he stole from Apple (I'm oh so ready for your response

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He also gives tremendous amounts to charity, but you are so busy bashing those evil, mean people with more money than you that you don't care to look into stuff.

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And not to be rude or anything, but you ALWAYS think you're right and everyone else is wrong. Ever took into consideration that some times it may be the other way around?

Yep. I wasn't always a capitalist.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-07-30 at 21:39:26

The Nazis are not socialist at all. They are the complete opposite in all but name and about one economic policy.

EDIT: Ok, the topic has moved on.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-30 at 21:39:55

QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 30 2005, 08:32 PM)

You, on the other hand, have no problem robbing me of my money against my will. Thanks, man.
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Robbing you of your money? Assuming you're upper class, it's more like you've been robbing everyone else. You're hoarding it all for yourself. I would have almost no problem what so ever with the upper class, if they were taxed like everyone else, and/or donated a lot their money to charities. If they have billions of dollars, a couple dozen million is not gonna satisfy me at all.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 21:41:31

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 30 2005, 06:39 PM)

Robbing you of your money? Assuming you're upper class, it's more like you've been robbing everyone else. You're hoarding it all for yourself. I would have almost no problem what so ever with the upper class, if they were taxed like everyone else, and/or donated some their money to charities.
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But with a president like Bush, they don't get taxed much, and we poor and middle class people have to make up for it

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 21:45:24

Look up the federal income tax brackets, and then come back and tell me they don't pay as much as everyone else.

Also, I am not really wealthy, but I still get robbed. The fact that you gleefully take my money is disgusting.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 21:47:15

Um, okay?

And with the recent tax break, the poor and middle class have had to make up for the break for the rich.

You must not know as much as you think you do...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-30 at 21:48:08

QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 30 2005, 08:45 PM)

You seriously suggesting that taxes should not exist? I just need to clarify that.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-30 at 21:51:29

QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jul 30 2005, 08:47 PM)

Um, okay?

And with the recent tax break, the poor and middle class have had to make up for the break for the rich.

You must not know as much as you think you do...
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Dude, look at the brackets. The high-earners still have a much higher percentage, let alone much higher amount of their income seized.

Look at the brackets before responding again. Thanks.

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QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 30 2005, 08:48 PM)

You seriously suggesting that taxes should not exist? I just need to clarify that.
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Absolutely.

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