Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-09-15 at 21:47:14
The way to get the "girl" is to be blunt. Those jerky egocentric males get the girls because they're blunt ("Damn, you're hot!").
They place what they think right out in the open, making communication possible.
The reason the jerky egocentric males lose the girl is because in being blunt, they also lack emotion. ("You're fat; screw you.")
They have no filter in their bluntness.
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The reason girls like those nice kids is because of their inner qualities. (The Bible speaks about all that "goodness" and stuff.)
The reason girls don't date the "nice kids" is because they're not blunt. Nice kids consider being blunt to be rude, which it sometimes is. They are almost never open with what they really think, not wishing to offend.
This creates a gap in personal communication, which is sorta one of the reasons why Kerry lost the election.
Nice guy + blunt = marriage material.
They place what they think right out in the open, making communication possible.
The reason the jerky egocentric males lose the girl is because in being blunt, they also lack emotion. ("You're fat; screw you.")
They have no filter in their bluntness.
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The reason girls like those nice kids is because of their inner qualities. (The Bible speaks about all that "goodness" and stuff.)
The reason girls don't date the "nice kids" is because they're not blunt. Nice kids consider being blunt to be rude, which it sometimes is. They are almost never open with what they really think, not wishing to offend.
This creates a gap in personal communication, which is sorta one of the reasons why Kerry lost the election.
Nice guy + blunt = marriage material.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-09-17 at 07:39:44
I like how everyone is recklessly stereotyping in this topic. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-09-17 at 10:28:55
Nice guys do finish last. Well, until you're getting into your 30s or so. At that point, women will be getting ready to settle down and want a guy like that, who will take of them and provide. (ever notice the divorce rate with the jerks? 
) Anyway, I disgress. Nice guys give too much, surrender themselves. They think that buying girls gifts and complimenting them excessively will earn their respect. This is not true, they will either be ignored or become a human doormat (whip-cracking sound effect). Nice guys won't play hard to get, or tease/screw around with her (its not a bad thing ). With a nice guy, the lady is just going to be downright bored... maybe not when they first meet, but eventually its going to happen. Instead of playing two steps forward one step back, they attempt fifty steps forward which will lead to them being forcefully tripped flat on to their faces. The ladies want some drama in their lives. If you're giving out unconditional love at all times, you're not providing any of that. You're providing a shelter for her that will always be there when she's done cheating with the next guy. You'll end up with tons of girls as friends, but no girlfriends. They'll all claim "I wish I had a nice guy like you" and "You're so nice", but they won't even consider going at it or going out with you. Actions speak louder than words. Now, don't misinterpret me, I'm not saying to run around being an arsehole, but there's a balance between the nice guy and the jerk. That's where you should want to be, and that concludes my sad-but-true post.
) Anyway, I disgress. Nice guys give too much, surrender themselves. They think that buying girls gifts and complimenting them excessively will earn their respect. This is not true, they will either be ignored or become a human doormat (whip-cracking sound effect). Nice guys won't play hard to get, or tease/screw around with her (its not a bad thing ). With a nice guy, the lady is just going to be downright bored... maybe not when they first meet, but eventually its going to happen. Instead of playing two steps forward one step back, they attempt fifty steps forward which will lead to them being forcefully tripped flat on to their faces. The ladies want some drama in their lives. If you're giving out unconditional love at all times, you're not providing any of that. You're providing a shelter for her that will always be there when she's done cheating with the next guy. You'll end up with tons of girls as friends, but no girlfriends. They'll all claim "I wish I had a nice guy like you" and "You're so nice", but they won't even consider going at it or going out with you. Actions speak louder than words. Now, don't misinterpret me, I'm not saying to run around being an arsehole, but there's a balance between the nice guy and the jerk. That's where you should want to be, and that concludes my sad-but-true post.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-09-17 at 12:22:29
Moose gets it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-09-17 at 13:01:25
(Just popped back in for the day to see what's up)
Nice guys are a product of our civilization's moral and value systems at work engineering proper conformists to sustain it's functionality. If not for "nice guys" and what they represent, civilization would not work. Frankly, I value "niceness" more than I do mindless, impulsive reproductive instincts. It works fine in nature, but last I remember I don't hunt buffalo in my back yard for food.
Plus nice guys are easier to control.
Nice guys are a product of our civilization's moral and value systems at work engineering proper conformists to sustain it's functionality. If not for "nice guys" and what they represent, civilization would not work. Frankly, I value "niceness" more than I do mindless, impulsive reproductive instincts. It works fine in nature, but last I remember I don't hunt buffalo in my back yard for food.
Plus nice guys are easier to control.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2005-09-17 at 13:13:17
I find that usualy nice guys finish last. But some times being nice can have a positive affect. Lets say you do somebody a favour. Later on, you can ask for a favour in return.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ... on 2005-09-17 at 15:08:34
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Sep 15 2005, 12:10 PM)
Well, I have a bit of experience being the nice guy.
In 6th grade, I had a crush on this one girl.
For the remaining two years of middle school I tried to work up the nerve to ask her out, but, I had low self-esteem. So, she ended up going out with my best friend at the time, because he 'Made her laugh', and another friend of mine, because he was, literally, the biggest guy in the school several times.
But, hell, we were friends. In fact, everybody in the school could tell I wanted to take her out, except her. Or if she did, that's rather cruel.
Eh, just my experience.
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In 6th grade, I had a crush on this one girl.
For the remaining two years of middle school I tried to work up the nerve to ask her out, but, I had low self-esteem. So, she ended up going out with my best friend at the time, because he 'Made her laugh', and another friend of mine, because he was, literally, the biggest guy in the school several times.
But, hell, we were friends. In fact, everybody in the school could tell I wanted to take her out, except her. Or if she did, that's rather cruel.
Eh, just my experience.
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That happened exactly to me. Same grade and same thing. Even though im in 7th grade, I still think of her.
My best friend is more annoying than me and she ACTUALLY likes him!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by D)s-202 on 2005-09-17 at 17:42:41
this is a tough one... am i nice?? Well not 2 my brother (he is on this site! I am not giving name) im only nice 2 my friends and people i want 2 impress 
.. but 2 some stranger i dont know if he isnt nice first....
(he is on this site! I am not giving name) im only nice 2 my friends and people i want 2 impress .. but 2 some stranger i dont know if he isnt nice first.... Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2005-09-17 at 18:06:03
QUOTE(Doodan Posted Sep 15 2005 @ 07:00 PM)
Here comes what is probably my longest post to date. Grab a pepsi or something:
ima try what you did and see how right you are lol. i've had a few b4 but not a lot recently
so lets just see if ur method works.Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-09-17 at 18:42:23
What exactly does a "nice" guy do?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2005-09-17 at 18:56:59
umm he's clean of drugs. he tries his best to be in a safe place. take a suitation with caution. he is not a bully. mabey nerdy. not a great sense of humor. treats his girls way better then his car. always sucks up to girls or teachers
thats basicly what i think one is cept for a few parts in there, not all nice guys are all of these but have a lot of them
thats basicly what i think one is cept for a few parts in there, not all nice guys are all of these but have a lot of them
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-18 at 03:31:55
Um... No..
A nice guy is just someone who is nice to everyone. Has a good heart. Loves the person for who they are, not what they represent. And are overall the best people to be friends with.
A nice guy is just someone who is nice to everyone. Has a good heart. Loves the person for who they are, not what they represent. And are overall the best people to be friends with.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by guardien on 2005-09-18 at 12:39:51
I consider myself a nice guy, however, I got a sense of humor once it gets started. I dont have my set of keys for my sense of humor though. 
I'm nice to everyone, but I stand up for myself, that's a givin'. I've proven that a few times. I have a certain courage that can be downright crazy, or I can be a coward on 75% of the days, afraid something that shouldn't happen, happens.
The nice guy is most of the time the last guy to get the girl, which in fact, usually ends up marring her.
My point exactly.
I've never been out with a girl, and I've never asked a girl out, but I know a few that have a sureal chance of wanting to go out with me. However, can i keep a girlfriend for a long period of time? Probobly not. I'm still too much of a nice guy, she'd get bored of me after a while. A few weeks give or take. Maybe its because I see girl differently than everyone else does. I hardly find a beautiful girl, and when I do, I can't make a move. I either physically can't, spiritually can't, or can't in the sense of how busy I am. It's more than a problem, its a delema(?).
My story ends with two things. My friends go out with a bunch of girls. Great girls, but none I like, so...good enough. My friends aren't real nice guys, they're funny, bad boys, that's for certain. Second, they say with my poems, I could get any girl I want. I personnaly dont believe that...(recalls incident with my first poem sent, i got into alot of blam when I did give her that poem....sheesshh...) But hell, I now know a few perfect matches for me now.
The story of a nice guy....short form
P.s. The nice guy never, ever, gets the wonder girl. that's why i dont go for them.
P.s.s. To Kelimus: Yes, They are the best people to be friends with...as long as they can stick up for themselves.
I'm nice to everyone, but I stand up for myself, that's a givin'. I've proven that a few times. I have a certain courage that can be downright crazy, or I can be a coward on 75% of the days, afraid something that shouldn't happen, happens.
The nice guy is most of the time the last guy to get the girl, which in fact, usually ends up marring her.
My point exactly.I've never been out with a girl, and I've never asked a girl out, but I know a few that have a sureal chance of wanting to go out with me. However, can i keep a girlfriend for a long period of time? Probobly not. I'm still too much of a nice guy, she'd get bored of me after a while. A few weeks give or take. Maybe its because I see girl differently than everyone else does. I hardly find a beautiful girl, and when I do, I can't make a move. I either physically can't, spiritually can't, or can't in the sense of how busy I am. It's more than a problem, its a delema(?).
My story ends with two things. My friends go out with a bunch of girls. Great girls, but none I like, so...good enough. My friends aren't real nice guys, they're funny, bad boys, that's for certain. Second, they say with my poems, I could get any girl I want. I personnaly dont believe that...(recalls incident with my first poem sent, i got into alot of blam when I did give her that poem....sheesshh...) But hell, I now know a few perfect matches for me now.
The story of a nice guy....short form
P.s. The nice guy never, ever, gets the wonder girl. that's why i dont go for them.
P.s.s. To Kelimus: Yes, They are the best people to be friends with...as long as they can stick up for themselves.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-09-18 at 19:40:04
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Sep 17 2005, 04:39 AM)
I like how everyone is recklessly stereotyping in this topic.
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Yeah.. like that nice guys have no backbone. That's a load of bull. Nice guys may have a tendency to be "passive" and not be the one insulting, but that doesn't mean they let idiots bash them.
I don't believe there is such a thing as the stereotypical 100% "nice guy". Who here actually believes that someone fits as a static character in a storybook?
All people are dynamic. Or such is my claim.
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Let us take a look at my life:
Am I a "nice guy"?
Most definately. I almost never insult people.
Do I suck up to people?
Heck no. I'm not some "doormat". I may be generally passive, but that doesn't mean I'm a coward.
Do I have lots of friends that are girls? Nope.
Do I have lots of friends that are boys? Nope.
Do I have any friends? Duh, of course! Quality over quantity.
"Have you ever had a girlfriend?"
Huh.. what?
"Figures.. no wonder you're defending nice guys; you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You're completely missing out on women."
So you're trying to tell me that I don't have a clue what i'm talking about because I've never 'dated'. You want me to date women during the time in life where both gender's hormones are completely unbalanced, stress is at an all-time high, and can hardly think straight. AND, you want me, in this pitiful condition, to try to search for women who I will be with for "the rest of my life"?
I'M the one missing out on something?
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The point of those last 2 orange ones was that people need to realize that they cannot think!
I am BEING NICE by telling people their errors; I don't want people to go about thinking they're right and have themselves be screwed over in life because of it!
Straight to the point, To be "nice" is a very vague term. It can mean a variety of things.
So, when you go about saying "nice guys finish last", you better consider all possible types of "nice guys".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-09-18 at 20:37:57
I think you're confusing a nice guy with a person who is nice. My definition of "nice guy" is someone who (ususally to an unhealthy degree) puts other's needs ahead of their own, ESPECIALLY GIRLS!
Another thing: I think alot of people who are nice are only nice because they want something. Like a greedy person who gives to charity expecting that karma will repay them for their "kindness" or something. I would have denied it at the time, but this is exactly the kind of person I was years ago. I thought I was nobler than that back then, but hindsight says otherwise. I would only do favors, give gifts, help others, etc. because I WANTED TO BE LIKED. I believe a person who is nice and is completely detached from the outcome of their kindness is a wonderful person, but there are very very very few like it. We need more people in the world like them. Odds are they don't really realize it themselves, so if you THINK you're a nice guy, you probably aren't that nice.
Another thing: I think alot of people who are nice are only nice because they want something. Like a greedy person who gives to charity expecting that karma will repay them for their "kindness" or something. I would have denied it at the time, but this is exactly the kind of person I was years ago. I thought I was nobler than that back then, but hindsight says otherwise. I would only do favors, give gifts, help others, etc. because I WANTED TO BE LIKED. I believe a person who is nice and is completely detached from the outcome of their kindness is a wonderful person, but there are very very very few like it. We need more people in the world like them. Odds are they don't really realize it themselves, so if you THINK you're a nice guy, you probably aren't that nice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-09-18 at 20:48:59
QUOTE(Doodan @ Sep 18 2005, 05:37 PM)
I think you're confusing a nice guy with a person who is nice. My definition of "nice guy" is someone who (ususally to an unhealthy degree) puts other's needs ahead of their own, ESPECIALLY GIRLS!
That's your definition of a nice guy? Odd, that was my definition of a "doormat" It's funny how people think differently, isn't it?
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because I WANTED TO BE LIKED.
Yeah, I'll admit sometimes I wanted to make amends with people I accidentally offended. Then, you have to "try" to be nice even though they are being rude. After a couple days, I just part from them and move on.
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so if you THINK you're a nice guy, you probably aren't that nice.
That's not very nice!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-09-18 at 22:12:32
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so if you THINK you're a nice guy, you probably aren't that nice.
Eh, you should replace the word "nice" with "smart".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PlayaR on 2005-09-18 at 22:23:26
i dont think nice guys finish last... if some1 ran for president and he was really nice wouldn't u vote for him....so i dont think nice guys finish last
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-09-19 at 15:01:06
QUOTE(Tuxedo Templar @ Sep 17 2005, 12:01 PM)
(Just popped back in for the day to see what's up)
Nice guys are a product of our civilization's moral and value systems at work engineering proper conformists to sustain it's functionality. If not for "nice guys" and what they represent, civilization would not work. Frankly, I value "niceness" more than I do mindless, impulsive reproductive instincts. It works fine in nature, but last I remember I don't hunt buffalo in my back yard for food.
Plus nice guys are easier to control.
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Nice guys are a product of our civilization's moral and value systems at work engineering proper conformists to sustain it's functionality. If not for "nice guys" and what they represent, civilization would not work. Frankly, I value "niceness" more than I do mindless, impulsive reproductive instincts. It works fine in nature, but last I remember I don't hunt buffalo in my back yard for food.
Plus nice guys are easier to control.
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Oh i love the way you say things.
QUOTE(GgG-PlayaR. @ Sep 18 2005, 09:23 PM)
i dont think nice guys finish last... if some1 ran for president and he was really nice wouldn't u vote for him....so i dont think nice guys finish last
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By nice they mean non-aggressive. To win in politics you have to play dirty. Why do you think half of the campain is insulting the other canadate.
If you have ever played risk you will realize that if you want to win you have to be a heartless player. To win you attack the opponents weekpoint whenever the opertunity exist. Life is the same way, If you expect Karma to pay you back in life for your good deeds you will likely be sadly mistaken. (Kinda like Doodan said)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-09-19 at 21:46:19
Dr.BeeR's advice on women.
It all depends on the girl.
Some girls like the "Bad Boys".
Others like the more romantic type.
Some like Athletic type of guys and another gorup likes metrosexuals.
There are many more examples but it all depends on the girl.
It is typical for a wonderful friendty girl to like a "Bad Boys"
Most athletic girls like athletic boys.
Girls that like to dress really really good like metrosexuals.
It's all about the girl's individual perspective about men. There is no "General" idea on what type of men do girls like.
It all depends on the girl.
Some girls like the "Bad Boys".
Others like the more romantic type.
Some like Athletic type of guys and another gorup likes metrosexuals.
There are many more examples but it all depends on the girl.
It is typical for a wonderful friendty girl to like a "Bad Boys"
Most athletic girls like athletic boys.
Girls that like to dress really really good like metrosexuals.
It's all about the girl's individual perspective about men. There is no "General" idea on what type of men do girls like.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-09-19 at 22:12:53
Although, I've noticed that MOST girls, regardless of their "type," consistently prefer FUNNY guys. No wonder I'm so popular!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-20 at 23:41:32
I'm not exactly a "nice" guy. My somewhat twisted sense of humor tends to scare people. If the girl has a bizarre sense of humor like me then they usually like me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FatalException on 2005-09-21 at 00:03:25
QUOTE(XxPacmaynExX @ Sep 17 2005, 12:08 PM)
That happened exactly to me. Same grade and same thing. Even though im in 7th grade, I still think of her.
My best friend is more annoying than me and she ACTUALLY likes him!
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Are you me? Is shapechanger me in the future? Scary... Nice guy-good heart= me. And replying to the person who said girls don't like guys who sit there and just play Halo 2, I know a few girls who would do that themselves.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ViolentMoose on 2005-09-21 at 00:20:10
QUOTE(DevliN @ Sep 15 2005, 02:18 AM)
This analogy sums up my feelings on this topic pretty well:
"A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired."
In terms of relationships - or getting into a relationship rather - nice guys are considered the best friend rather than boyfriend. The nice guys are the ones the girl will go and rant to just to feel better, but nto actually take them as more than a close friend. And then there's that whole "if this relationship went any further, it may ruin our friendship" thing.
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"A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired."
In terms of relationships - or getting into a relationship rather - nice guys are considered the best friend rather than boyfriend. The nice guys are the ones the girl will go and rant to just to feel better, but nto actually take them as more than a close friend. And then there's that whole "if this relationship went any further, it may ruin our friendship" thing.
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damn devlin..wow....that is me totaly i got this hot friend i try to ask her out but she says she wont go out with me cause im like a best friend to her and it piss's me off i guess im a nice guy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-21 at 00:20:14
Looks are a big factor too, you know.