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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-11 at 15:17:33
Kinda like 1982?]

Or was it '84...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-11-14 at 01:06:17
QUOTE(Dictionary.com)
To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act.
Doesn't the defintion already answer the question if entrapment is illegal?

Now what you guys seem to be rambling about is if it's right to "trick" a person on the internet, sorta like a sting operation. From what I get from the defintion of "entrapment", if you lure the person into doing the illegal act, that would be illegal. If you don't lure, but instead let the other person do all the talking, it is legal.

Think about a worm on the end of a fishing hook. If the worm is just sorta lying there dead in the water, is it not the fish's fault that he's on the hok.? But let's say this worm was still alive and could talk and taunted/provoked the fish. If the fish bites, isn't it the fault of the worm that the fish bit it? How do we know that the fish would have left it alone if it didn't move?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-11-14 at 16:04:14
Don't you think it's your fault if you're aware that you're doing something illegial? I'm sure sexual predators know they're doing something that they could get in trouble for.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-14 at 17:42:50
QUOTE(Mr.Kirbycode774 @ Nov 13 2005, 11:06 PM)
QUOTE(Dictionary.com)
To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act.
Doesn't the defintion already answer the question if entrapment is illegal?

Now what you guys seem to be rambling about is if it's right to "trick" a person on the internet, sorta like a sting operation. From what I get from the defintion of "entrapment", if you lure the person into doing the illegal act, that would be illegal. If you don't lure, but instead let the other person do all the talking, it is legal.

Think about a worm on the end of a fishing hook. If the worm is just sorta lying there dead in the water, is it not the fish's fault that he's on the hok.? But let's say this worm was still alive and could talk and taunted/provoked the fish. If the fish bites, isn't it the fault of the worm that the fish bit it? How do we know that the fish would have left it alone if it didn't move?
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On the news broadcast I saw, they DID LURE them in. They had 13 year old boys tell them false information. Then when the people came, the newsman was there QUESTIONING the preditors.

It is sick that they are preditors, but it is still wrong (in my eyes) for them to do that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-11-14 at 21:38:12
Was that the Dateline episode about the online predators, and they pretended to be 13 year old boys and girls, and invited them to their houses? Since I watched that yesterday, and it was very interesting, and what some people would do just for...that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-15 at 03:00:20
I'm not sure. I saw it in class on the news.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FrezZ on 2005-11-15 at 15:57:30
Intentionally positioning someone into doing something they might not have otherwise done is illegal and not legally moral in my eyes.

The fact is though, you dont just decide to moleste a child becuase the option has presented itself to you. The people who prey on children ( whether they be police bait or innocent internet users ) have allready premeditated the act of molesting children.

Lure used in this situation changes things as well.
If you where to use meat to lure a dangerous animal say a tiger, who you know has a very high probability of attacking someone, into a trap so that it can be remooved from the immediate area, how would that be wrong?.

The same with sexual predators, they are dangerous, and just like the tiger wandering around, maybe this predator hasn't attacked/sexually molested someone yet, dosn't mean there isn't a high probability they wont at a future date.

As far as i am concerned, these people should be lure into a trap ( and dont give me any BS about how thats wrong, these people are mentally making the choice to go visit this underage child with the intentions of doing something illegal, and they know full damn well , that its wrong ) and locked away, for the protection of others.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-15 at 18:17:45
Why is everyone misspelling predator?
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