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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-12 at 13:38:02
QUOTE(SI @ Nov 12 2005, 03:50 AM)
yay, a hidden attack on me, for source code that isn't mine to give out, about an update I never heard about. go you.
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Yes, an attack on you, who never attempted to update MEMGraft even after becoming guardian of the source code.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-11-12 at 15:12:40
So I am guessing it still does not load..?

ADDITION:
When I went to Multiplayer it crashed...

EDIT:
I think it is because there is no files for Patch_rt.mpq in it... I try using that.

EDIT:
Yup.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SuperToast on 2005-11-12 at 16:41:20
Awesome.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2005-11-12 at 17:31:02
QUOTE(SI @ Nov 12 2005, 08:20 AM)
I was refering to the way the newspost was worded ("This version was done without the source code from SI"), nothing against you, just tell me next time and I could compile it for you saving you alot of hex editing work.

Seeing how it would save me some work, I most likely will(even though most of the time was spent finding the offsets from the exe, not hex editing them into Memgraft). And if you'd be willing to add some more stuff, that would just make my day.

QUOTE(SI @ Nov 12 2005, 08:20 AM)
I would have to check the code to load that myself, drop me a line on AIM sometime, I'll check it and try to explain, I dont think DW would mind.


Um, I don't have any IM system anymore(never really did). Parents blocked them all. Maybe a PM or E-mail...? I'd just like a quick overview of how it actually works.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-11-12 at 18:05:52
When I select groups of different types of units it crashes.
(I click a group of SCVs and I was fine, I add a queen and I crash; I select a drone and 3 larva I crash; I build a Zergling, and when they hatch and become 2 I crash)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-11-12 at 18:43:52
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 12 2005, 01:38 PM)
Yes, an attack on you, who never attempted to update MEMGraft even after becoming guardian of the source code.
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feel free to pay me more than my current job is paying, and I'll quit it and update memgraft for you. Until then you are in no position to judge my priorities.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2005-11-12 at 19:47:41
QUOTE(O)FaRTy1billion @ Nov 12 2005, 05:05 PM)
When I select groups of different types of units it crashes.
(I click a group of SCVs and I was fine, I add a queen and I crash; I select a drone and 3 larva I crash; I build a Zergling, and when they hatch and become 2 I crash)
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I might have gotten one offset wrong, I'll go and check it.

QUOTE(SI @ Nov 12 2005, 05:43 PM)
feel free to pay me more than my current job is paying, and I'll quit it and update memgraft for you. Until then you are in no position to judge my priorities.
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Um, may I take a two sided argument here:
Although I was able to find my own time to update it, I believe that SI is correct in putting his job before us(I put school first...most of the time). However, it doesn't take that long to find the offsets, and 1.13e has been out for a while.

So, might I make a suggestion? I can find all the offsets, and maybe SI might be able to find time to add some more functionality to it(or not, if he can't/won't). I wish that I was, but I am nothing compared to the programmer that he is(or a couple of others). My own attempt at a patcher is sputtering along miserably, and I'm not sure how to improve it, or even make it work properly and safely. I would love to see such things as what I want included into mainstream modding, but obviously I don't have the skill to make a proper program for them yet(which is part of why I asked about how that file is loaded).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheEvilBeaVer on 2005-11-12 at 19:50:29
When I select multiple units with a memgraft patch aplied starcraft just crashes confused.gif
It's not because of the my mod because when i create a patch_rt that contains only the MGP the same error occurs...
What the *beep* is the problem ?!?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TerminaterCE on 2005-11-12 at 19:58:29
Same Happens With Me, I Have No Idea Why. Just Yet...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2005-11-12 at 20:14:05
QUOTE(O)FaRTy1billion @ Nov 12 2005, 05:05 PM)
When I select groups of different types of units it crashes.
(I click a group of SCVs and I was fine, I add a queen and I crash; I select a drone and 3 larva I crash; I build a Zergling, and when they hatch and become 2 I crash)
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Oh~! , true that is! When select groups of different types Crashes......!! sad.gif
it's big trouble to play Mod

i hope, will solve the truble
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2005-11-12 at 20:24:14
I found out the problem(I hope). Your descriptions of when it happened clued me into the problem. However, since DTBK submited the file, I can't update it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-11-12 at 20:24:48
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Nov 12 2005, 07:47 PM)
I might have gotten one offset wrong, I'll go and check it.
Um, may I take a two sided argument here:
Although I was able to find my own time to update it, I believe that SI is correct in putting his job before us(I put school first...most of the time).  However, it doesn't take that long to find the offsets, and 1.13e has been out for a while. 

So, might I make a suggestion?  I can find all the offsets, and maybe SI might be able to find time to add some more functionality to it(or not, if he can't/won't).  I wish that I was, but I am nothing compared to the programmer that he is(or a couple of others).  My own attempt at a patcher is sputtering along miserably, and I'm not sure how to improve it, or even make it work properly and safely.  I would love to see such things as what I want included into mainstream modding, but obviously I don't have the skill to make a proper program for them yet(which is part of why I asked about how that file is loaded).
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Well, first priority is college. Then my job, and then if I still have free time its to meet friends, play games, work on scmdraft, etc.

I'm not sure about adding features, I havn't even messed with most of the code in memgraft, just the offsets.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2005-11-12 at 20:38:14
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Nov 12 2005, 07:24 PM)
I found out the problem(I hope).  Your descriptions of when it happened clued me into the problem.  However, since DTBK submited the file, I can't update it.  So, right now, it's in a zip in this post.  If one of the DLDB keepers would replace it as soon as possible, that would be appreciated(and then I'll remove it from this post).
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Thx u so much~! ,What a Fast Goood Work ~!! thumbup.gif
When if i catch sight of other bugs then i'll report hre wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-12 at 20:46:16
QUOTE(SI @ Nov 12 2005, 03:43 PM)
feel free to pay me more than my current job is paying, and I'll quit it and update memgraft for you. Until then you are in no position to judge my priorities.
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I can challenge you putting SCMD above MemGraft, and I do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dabbu on 2005-11-12 at 20:48:28
quick question, is this program for MODs or the original game?
can I make a ghost be given shields again? portraits changed, etc. that being for the original game
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2005-11-12 at 22:18:12
QUOTE(Dabbu @ Nov 12 2005, 07:48 PM)
quick question, is this program for MODs or the original game?
can I make a ghost be given shields again? portraits changed, etc. that being for the original game
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memgraft is for adding buttons like you want a overlord to create infested terrans
or you want a supply depot to train a civilian and to give shields to a unit you can use aresnal III which is a data modifier
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2005-11-13 at 14:40:55
Now its giving me the same error but asking for custom\mgpatch.mgd tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-11-13 at 15:25:00
Go in WinMPQ, open the modified patch_rt and add the .mgd file you have and put it as \custom so it's like 'custom\mgpatch.mgd'

Not a bug in the program.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by evolipel on 2005-11-13 at 16:22:58
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 12 2005, 08:46 PM)
I can challenge you putting SCMD above MemGraft, and I do.
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Why? I think updating the Best Editor Out There ™* that many mappers use is more important than to fill some niche with a few modders sitting around and judging his priorities. Don't you think?

* -- except mission briefings & AutoStack.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-13 at 18:13:52
Without SCMD, we can still make maps. SCMD in previous still works. MEMGraft was the only progam of its kind, and it was completely disfunctional. SCMDraft can wait.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-11-13 at 18:35:19
Let's just cool it...


Let's look at this on both sides.

DT_BK: I know how you feel. With out Memgraft updated, it really hinders modifications. Unless you make people downgrade their patches. Which is most likely not going to happen, because it is and can be a hassle.

SI: I can see where he is coming from. There are more things in life besides SC. Hopefully eveyone on this site can see that. In my eyes, SC is the alternative amusement. My "real life" comes before SC and the internet.

So, let's cut this petty argument out. Both of you have other obligations. Maybe if DoA asked for the source code, he would've been handed the code. We won't know.


Anyways, I am done. That was my two cents.

In short:
Stop bickering. We have Memgraft now! tongue.gif Mod-On!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-11-13 at 21:16:33
Well I'm glad you guys got it fixed... I didn't seem to encouter it, but I'll DL the new version juuuuust to be safe. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2005-11-14 at 11:46:17
Congrat's Disciple'. I just hope that you don't forget us fellas at WB's to keep us (at least somewhat) updated on any new changes about it, eh? wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TerminaterCE on 2005-11-14 at 21:54:28
Uhh Hey Disciple Could You Work On Fixing The Rename And Copy & Paste. That Would Be Cool. Then It'll Be Just Like Stargraft!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-11-15 at 06:55:22
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 12 2005, 08:46 PM)
I can challenge you putting SCMD above MemGraft, and I do.
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good for you, I know you dont care about scmdraft because you prefer SF, but there are many more scmdraft users than memgraft.
Also updating memgraft is a pain because I am not as familiar with the related parts of SC asm as DW
I get more enjoyment out of working on scmdraft than memgraft, and that is basicly the only thing that counts. Neither program gives me any sort of "reward" so I'll take the one I enjoy more, and have plans with.
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