Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-05-25 at 13:34:18
I just read everything you people wrote here and i think it was interesting.
I have always tought alot about free will and such and i dont really think there is something like that.
For every choice we make there are reasons, often we know them sometimes we dont. Noone ever cuts themself for noreason, noone ever kills anyone for no reason. The reason may or may not be good but for whoever makes this decision it has to be good. Also someone cant really do something without a reason.. because then you would never have tough about doing it!
We can get reasons to do stuff anywere. A reason do cut yourself could be that you think your life is useless or that your curius about what will happen. A reason for bying candy would be that you know it is good, or you have money and wants to use them.
Now someone could just cut his own arm of but not without thinking the idea and to think the idea he would ahve to see someone do it or being told about it or just imaginated about it and then theres a reason, because even the smallest think like just seing something could be reason enought to try it.
Even if we want free will we cant really get it because there is no way to do something without a reason! and the reason is the thing thats stops your free will.
Now thats just some theory I cant prove it but to me it sounds logical.
btw i think that was my longest post ever
I have always tought alot about free will and such and i dont really think there is something like that.
For every choice we make there are reasons, often we know them sometimes we dont. Noone ever cuts themself for noreason, noone ever kills anyone for no reason. The reason may or may not be good but for whoever makes this decision it has to be good. Also someone cant really do something without a reason.. because then you would never have tough about doing it!
We can get reasons to do stuff anywere. A reason do cut yourself could be that you think your life is useless or that your curius about what will happen. A reason for bying candy would be that you know it is good, or you have money and wants to use them.
Now someone could just cut his own arm of but not without thinking the idea and to think the idea he would ahve to see someone do it or being told about it or just imaginated about it and then theres a reason, because even the smallest think like just seing something could be reason enought to try it.
Even if we want free will we cant really get it because there is no way to do something without a reason! and the reason is the thing thats stops your free will.
Now thats just some theory I cant prove it but to me it sounds logical.
btw i think that was my longest post ever
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dashrike on 2004-05-25 at 14:05:10
Interesting.
Did you pull that directly from the Matrix: Reloaded discussion forums or did that come from somewhere else?
Did you pull that directly from the Matrix: Reloaded discussion forums or did that come from somewhere else?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-05-25 at 14:36:30
that cam from my mind but it came into my mind from alot of different places i guess.. and never been on those forums
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dashrike on 2004-05-25 at 14:39:18
I was speaking more to the original post by Helios.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aster on 2004-05-25 at 14:49:07
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I was born without even asking it.
I was raised in a religion I do not even believe in.
I was introduced and trained in values my parents believed in.
I was forced into school.
My body forces me to eat and drink.
I cannot stay awake undefenatly.
I was raised in a religion I do not even believe in.
I was introduced and trained in values my parents believed in.
I was forced into school.
My body forces me to eat and drink.
I cannot stay awake undefenatly.
Lol, me too, but I've managed to cope with it by:
Hating life in all forms.
Giving up all religion.
Never doing anything in school.
Eating/drinking as little as possible.
Staying awake by placing burning coals on my eyelids.
lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-05-25 at 18:35:23
asters right he, Ive learn to cope with it. and there is freewill like i have the power to fail myself in school, i have the power to call yoshi a buttwipe (no offence), I have even the power to go kill my ex if i wanted to
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2004-05-25 at 20:59:37
QUOTE(dashrike @ May 25 2004, 01:05 PM)
Interesting.
Did you pull that directly from the Matrix: Reloaded discussion forums or did that come from somewhere else?
Did you pull that directly from the Matrix: Reloaded discussion forums or did that come from somewhere else?
Actually Im also registered at a great matrix site www.matrixmania.com
but I didnt get the idea from there, that "somewhere else" was my brain
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-05-26 at 07:47:54
QUOTE(dimensia @ May 26 2004, 12:35 AM)
asters right he, Ive learn to cope with it. and there is freewill like i have the power to fail myself in school, i have the power to call yoshi a buttwipe (no offence), I have even the power to go kill my ex if i wanted to
you wouldnt fail yourself in school for no reason..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demantrix on 2004-05-26 at 14:47:03
an idiot said once said this
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or kill my ex...
no, because youd be in trouble and we all no youd never want to get in trouble, especially for your fruity girl ratcheal barizinskiReport, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-05-26 at 14:51:51
ent i would and i can and demantrix i really dont care wot happens to me any more, cause i dont think im in control
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aster on 2004-05-26 at 15:37:57
Lol I have known that ever since I met you XD
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-05-26 at 18:06:58
Thanks for the moral support