Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-08 at 08:26:41
Wasn't one of Bush's campaign promises to beef up the Mars Project? Oh well, it's just that not enough people care to go to Mars. The landing on the moon was huge because it was a victory over the Soviets, but not a fraction of that many people care about the Mars Project.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cayden on 2005-12-08 at 08:33:41
Speaking of Mars. Here's a very good picture of Earth from the surface of Mars.
Oh man thats fascinating to see we are actually on that little....dot.
Picture source page is here Earth from Mars
Oh man thats fascinating to see we are actually on that little....dot.
Picture source page is here Earth from Mars
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-12-08 at 17:59:55
the only problem we have is all the space projects are costy, and not much can be forced in.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-12-08 at 18:36:18
The projects are only costly because they don't get enough support to do some of the more radical advancees. (Take note several of our rockets are still from the 70's/80's which is older than most of our cars!) There have been countless designs to try out new rocket engines, many of which are significantly better than our current design, but nobody funds these projects. Most of the funds go towards funding the mainstream path of rocketry.
One significant advancement that has been basically stopped was the exterior intake propulsion system. Most space shuttles/rockets today are composed of roughly 70% of pure liquid oxygen for feul. The exterior intake system promised to cut this massive amount of feul in half, instead compressing air from the exterior of the rocket as it flew over a period of time, releasing the oxygen only when it needed it most. The project lost all its funding and died soon after the Columbia crashed, as more and more funds went into improving what shuttles we already have.
One significant advancement that has been basically stopped was the exterior intake propulsion system. Most space shuttles/rockets today are composed of roughly 70% of pure liquid oxygen for feul. The exterior intake system promised to cut this massive amount of feul in half, instead compressing air from the exterior of the rocket as it flew over a period of time, releasing the oxygen only when it needed it most. The project lost all its funding and died soon after the Columbia crashed, as more and more funds went into improving what shuttles we already have.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-08 at 21:14:54
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I think you misunderstood just what satellites can do. Satellites can pick you up, in your bathroom right now. That's scary isnt it? Thats pretty valuable in war. Specially when your provided with enemy territory information. Plus, space can take people faster than airplanes, cars, and ships. NASA is supposed to be researching aerial vehicles and rockets. Theres only non-noticable changes in space instruments and you won't be able to know them unless your a complete geek and read all of those articles in wikipedia. "Search: Spaceships"
Please note, we are entering it not in it. US almost found out a way to make artificial oxygen over the years, and Europe, Asia has rocket technology now too. For europe, it's all of them. EU, and then for Asia it goes for China for the Rocketry and Spaceships.
Many other countries will soon have those if they get enough funds to be spent up.
The U.S. government has something like Cloaked Blimp, and stuff...
the blimp isnt actually cloaked, it has camaras on the top and screens on the bottom, and does like a play of whats up there on the downside, which makes it look like nothings there.
Please note, we are entering it not in it. US almost found out a way to make artificial oxygen over the years, and Europe, Asia has rocket technology now too. For europe, it's all of them. EU, and then for Asia it goes for China for the Rocketry and Spaceships.
Many other countries will soon have those if they get enough funds to be spent up.
The U.S. government has something like Cloaked Blimp, and stuff...
the blimp isnt actually cloaked, it has camaras on the top and screens on the bottom, and does like a play of whats up there on the downside, which makes it look like nothings there.
where exactly do you get your information....
anyway rockets are way too costly to get into space. and they are outdated. the most probable technology that we would use is magnets. it will have the same concept as the bullet train in japan.
the space shuttle will be on a track and be propelled at very high velocity then shoot up into space. it will have enough fuel to reach its destination and to decend back to earth.
magnets are at low cost(compared to rockets) and can be used several times. but for some reason we have not done this.
PS. ever think that the US doesnt want to go into space? you know... aliens might harass us...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-12-09 at 03:11:11
aliens are gay, I think we should be starting to have somekind of space-tech corporations, big ones too
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-12-09 at 03:18:59
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Monkeys entered the space age before humans by that definition... blink.gif
We sent the monkeys into space, they didn't do it themselves.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-12-09 at 05:02:39
Don't Moon and Mars have supply of iron vein and useful materials?
you know they woulda've thought about that already...
you know they woulda've thought about that already...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-09 at 07:52:37
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They can see through roofs?!?!?!
Yep. It's called InfraRed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-12-09 at 08:39:19
[center]I've been looking for a thermograph of my house... I could get one if I were willing to pay, but... No.
Isn't it funny how wrong people were back in the '60s? They thought by the year 2000 we'd have flying cars, colonys on Mars and the moon, robots everywhere... If only...[/center]
Isn't it funny how wrong people were back in the '60s? They thought by the year 2000 we'd have flying cars, colonys on Mars and the moon, robots everywhere... If only...[/center]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-09 at 19:14:08
we do have flying cars, but its not perfected yet
we have small buildings on the moon =/
robots ARE everywhere, just not with sophisticated a.i.
we have small buildings on the moon =/
robots ARE everywhere, just not with sophisticated a.i.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-09 at 19:42:47
QUOTE(no-0b @ Dec 9 2005, 05:14 PM)
we do have flying cars, but its not perfected yet
we have small buildings on the moon =/
robots ARE everywhere, just not with sophisticated a.i.
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we have small buildings on the moon =/
robots ARE everywhere, just not with sophisticated a.i.
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Where is your proof for the small buildings on the moon eh?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-09 at 19:56:52
i include the probes as buildings XD
and wasnt there a greenhouse thing built there?
and wasnt there a greenhouse thing built there?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-09 at 22:35:25
The only time we have been on the moon (To my knowledge) was with Apollo 11... So where the hell do you come up with this bs?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-12-09 at 22:39:16
QUOTE(Kellimoose @ Dec 9 2005, 10:35 PM)
The only time we have been on the moon (To my knowledge) was with Apollo 11... So where the hell do you come up with this bs?
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I'm sure we were on the moon 3 or 4 times. 11 was the first (I think) and 12 and 14 were (13 was supposed to be, but we know that story). I don't know if they continued past 14 or not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-12-09 at 22:56:02
We never had enough technology to hold too much A.I database. But you know Koreans invented a micro stick that can hold 1 GB, which means they can come up with a 8 GB RAM if they wanted to, so they are developing A.I.s and will be on jobs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by marxel on 2005-12-11 at 09:24:49
do we even have the resources to make fuel that can make us travel in hyperspace?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-12-11 at 11:08:30
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If it was the Space age, then arent there any cities in space?
We have mastered exploration of underseas, yet we do not have cities down there..
I think we are already in the space age.. Of course it will take, a long time to get more advanced and better at exploration and civilization outside earth, but look how long other ages were, we have plenty of time to expand on it.
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In Great Britain, the Bronze Age is considered to have been the period from 2200 to 700 BC.
-WikipediaI could get more examples but one is enough..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-12-11 at 22:17:00
The problem why we arent doing so much to space is that we have problems with us of our own. See, we are all divided and in warfare ourselves. we can't possibly go outer space with power with divided attention. Thats why people want peace. Peace gradually forms an undivided country.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-11 at 22:35:02
So you want a united earth?
Hell that would be a great idea! peace and stuff
But theres always going to be Bob over there who doesn't like the way Joe is running things bla bla bla...
Going to Mars and colonizing it will take a VERY long time. First I beleive we have to establish a gas station type colony on the moon. and a couple space station refueling and restocking places inbetween the moon and the earth and the moon and mars.
Thats the only way I think we will get to mars at the moment. We have to leap frog our way over.
Hell that would be a great idea! peace and stuff
But theres always going to be Bob over there who doesn't like the way Joe is running things bla bla bla...
Going to Mars and colonizing it will take a VERY long time. First I beleive we have to establish a gas station type colony on the moon. and a couple space station refueling and restocking places inbetween the moon and the earth and the moon and mars.
Thats the only way I think we will get to mars at the moment. We have to leap frog our way over.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-12 at 02:56:41
yeh... either a refueling station or teleportation...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-12-12 at 04:12:26
I think that mars has no oxygen atmosphere... but if it does then we can breathe in it, which I highly doubt.
The ship actually traveling in higher than lightspeed is impossible. But to bend space in some way is possible, but with our current technology, entering another dimension or quantum tunneling is currently impossible. Impossible to make big ones anyways. We currently can make wormholes about the size of 6 atoms can get through. But if we can generate enough energy, we can make a person go through it, and if we can generate more energy and higher energy, intersteller travel would be possible.
Note that all these things would be possible with united earth.
The ship actually traveling in higher than lightspeed is impossible. But to bend space in some way is possible, but with our current technology, entering another dimension or quantum tunneling is currently impossible. Impossible to make big ones anyways. We currently can make wormholes about the size of 6 atoms can get through. But if we can generate enough energy, we can make a person go through it, and if we can generate more energy and higher energy, intersteller travel would be possible.
Note that all these things would be possible with united earth.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-12 at 04:21:43
united earth= bad
yeah... to change mars atmosphere would take years and a lot of resources. mars would need a lot of air because it has a lower gravitational field. we would also need to get rid of its current atmosphere....
it is very hard to get oxygen we would probolly have to get the oxygen from the h2o in mars and that would be very costly. then we would have to set up machines to change the co2 into oxygen again. not to mention how cold it will be.... i think changing mars atmosphere is dumb. we should focus on actually working on our own planet.
yeah... to change mars atmosphere would take years and a lot of resources. mars would need a lot of air because it has a lower gravitational field. we would also need to get rid of its current atmosphere....
it is very hard to get oxygen we would probolly have to get the oxygen from the h2o in mars and that would be very costly. then we would have to set up machines to change the co2 into oxygen again. not to mention how cold it will be.... i think changing mars atmosphere is dumb. we should focus on actually working on our own planet.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-12 at 05:37:52
QUOTE(Yenku @ Dec 11 2005, 09:08 AM)
We have mastered exploration of underseas, yet we do not have cities down there..
I think we are already in the space age.. Of course it will take, a long time to get more advanced and better at exploration and civilization outside earth, but look how long other ages were, we have plenty of time to expand on it.
-Wikipedia
I could get more examples but one is enough..
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I think we are already in the space age.. Of course it will take, a long time to get more advanced and better at exploration and civilization outside earth, but look how long other ages were, we have plenty of time to expand on it.
-Wikipedia
I could get more examples but one is enough..
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we havent mastered it. if we did the entire ocean would be explored with out people worrying about sea creatures.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-12 at 08:25:34
1) Mars has a thin bit of Oxygen, you could actually breathe on Mars for a minute or two.
2) No refueling station neccesary, and teleportation would take far too much energy; Ion Drives!
3) I'd like to see some proof of that wormhole thing
2) No refueling station neccesary, and teleportation would take far too much energy; Ion Drives!
3) I'd like to see some proof of that wormhole thing