Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-12-30 at 03:21:21
QUOTE(RexyRex @ Dec 30 2005, 03:19 AM)
If you think you're not guilty, then don't bother posting in this thread. You're no "higher moral being" than the rest of us.
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why should i be guilty. im not the one making a big scene about it.
im just acting normal like Yoshi, DTBK, and the rest of the people that do understand
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SpaceBoy2000 on 2005-12-30 at 03:23:15
QUOTE(Mp)MinigameEast @ Dec 30 2005, 03:19 AM)
we all should of acted like we heard a death on the news that people wouldnt really be shocked about... we dont really dont know the kid that much like talking face to face or seen each others body.
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Well, maybe instead of starting it off with "Is this a joke?", try "My condolences to your family. She was a good member of our forum and will be missed." And perhaps don't slap her name onto a tournament that has nothing to do with her?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-12-30 at 03:28:27
QUOTE(Mp)MinigameEast @ Dec 30 2005, 01:21 AM)
why should i be guilty. im not the one making a big scene about it.
im just acting normal like Yoshi, DTBK, and the rest of the people that do understand
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A big scene is still posting.im just acting normal like Yoshi, DTBK, and the rest of the people that do understand
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In other words, stop.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-12-30 at 03:51:33
QUOTE(RexyRex @ Dec 30 2005, 03:28 AM)
A big scene is still posting.
In other words, stop.
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In other words, stop.
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why should i listen to a person that uses vulgar language?
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Well, maybe instead of starting it off with "Is this a joke?",
people thought it was a joke because people are sometimes ignorant and just wanted to create a dumb topic in the null for no reason.
then something clicked them and it wasn't a joke at all... it was all for real.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-12-30 at 04:07:30
I've only seen NR on battlenet a few times. I've joked with him a couple times, nothing more or less. Basically, I'm saying mourning is a phase and we eventually need to move on. I'm not saying forget him, because every SEN member, whether distant or far is part of the same community. To be honest, I just found out about his death a couple minutes ago. It makes me wish I could have known him better; so I'll try and get more active with everyone here.
As much as I respect what you say Yoshi, I believe moderating is fixing technical errors, not being a moral police. Respect is not stated in the EULA, so people will do as they will. People will respect, others will joke. We can edit their posts, but we can't change what they think.
As much as I respect what you say Yoshi, I believe moderating is fixing technical errors, not being a moral police. Respect is not stated in the EULA, so people will do as they will. People will respect, others will joke. We can edit their posts, but we can't change what they think.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-12-30 at 04:13:36
I'm done mourning.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-12-30 at 04:15:39
Doesn't mean you have to be a wang about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-12-30 at 04:16:17
I'm not.
Edit: Oh, that. Sorry, it just seemed funny...
But I'm done joking around.
Edit: Oh, that. Sorry, it just seemed funny...
But I'm done joking around.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-30 at 04:32:30
Oh seriously, this is the internet people!
Whats wrong with people make signatures and avatars about her or him? i personall dont see what the hell is wrong with that. Its pretty bad that it takes a death to get yoshi to post some thing like this. There are meanies in life there are nice people in life youll half to get use to it. Making one little post wont change the way people feel or anything, sure they might take off the avatars and sigs, but that wont acually effect them. I didnt know nr at all exept from his or her's posts, i to regret seeing that he or she died. Also the fact that no one can decide on the gender of nr. But maybe to please some people make a new rule about it?
Whats wrong with people make signatures and avatars about her or him? i personall dont see what the hell is wrong with that. Its pretty bad that it takes a death to get yoshi to post some thing like this. There are meanies in life there are nice people in life youll half to get use to it. Making one little post wont change the way people feel or anything, sure they might take off the avatars and sigs, but that wont acually effect them. I didnt know nr at all exept from his or her's posts, i to regret seeing that he or she died. Also the fact that no one can decide on the gender of nr. But maybe to please some people make a new rule about it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hitl1r1 on 2005-12-30 at 05:27:38
Yoshi is right. We acted like idiots by saying "OMG, is she really dead?", or "Wtf, Nuclear is a she". Thats basically missing the whole point though. We should of just mourned for Nuclear instead of just spreading lies and flaming. The tournament has nothing to do with Nuclear, and is doing nothing to remember Nuclear.
Are you basically saying that, whats done is done and we have to get on with our lives eventually?
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Basically, I'm saying mourning is a phase and we eventually need to move on.
Are you basically saying that, whats done is done and we have to get on with our lives eventually?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-30 at 05:44:25
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Dec 30 2005, 12:15 AM)
I comeforth not as a friend, administrator, or member of the site. I comeforth as a human being, extremely offended by the conduct of how people (by "people", I don't mean pointing your fingers at DT_BK, I mean everybody who participated) handled the death of a member of this website, nuclearrabbit.
Some of you are speculating that it might be a prank or joke. As I have said before: death, is no joke. Apparently almost everybody at SEN has no shame, as events over the past few days of handling the loss of the SEN family doesn't appear to have any effect as everybody is acting like a complete idiot.
I know someones going to think that someone guessed the password to my account or is using some sort of spoofing technique to pretend to be Yoshi_da_Sniper. This post contains EXACTLY what I think. I am aware I have left but I after seeing the heartless actions of many of the people here, I have decided to truthfully express my feelings.
First off, WHY IN THE **** WOULD YOU CAPITALIZE ON THE DEATH OF A MEMBER OF THESE BOARDS? Yes. I'm sure nuclearrabbit would of wanted a tournament in her memory, or how about various signatures created by ripping off her avatar? If a friend or family member died, would you start hosting starcraft tournaments or creating photoshop signatures and avatars in honor of them? NO! You all absolutely miss the point. I'm pretty sure her friends and family are pretty much sickened by the heartless actions of people here. Whats even worse, is I haven't seen the current administration or moderation staff step in and take action. They actually find this acceptable...
"Showing respect" does not mean "spreading complete lies and sarcasm". I see some random person posting something like "I'm crying myself to sleep everyday" or "omg is it true lol" is not respectful. The sad thing is, these people didn't even know nuclearrabbit. I sure hope none of her family or friends were reading the kind of garbage you guys put up, because it was nothing but sarcasm and lies, from all of you. You cannot get anymore disrespectful if you treat the ones who know the deceased like complete idiots.
Honestly, I made the site, I have seen it grow, I have seen it have some good times. This my friends, is the end. We have passed the peak and it now appears that the site is in a decline, because apparently all the people I knew who had common sense are now gone or not very active. Nobody is left but apparenty people who have no clue how to treat serious situations.
As of now, a lot of the respect I had for many people is gone. There are like one or two people who treated the situation like it should have been in the first place. My message for you, is that you should step up and tell people what they are doing is WRONG. I think my future visits will be more infrequent and shorter in length now. I just can't believe the way people acted.
By the way. I notice that everytime I make a post like this, the people who applies to apparently change their additudes so fast and attempt to look smart or cool. Just for once, spare me. Pretty much everybody is gulity. What you should do instead, is reflect on the action, REALIZE there is something morally wrong with the actions of people here, identify future problems and speak up/take action about them. It is far too late to fix the damage that has already been done.
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Some of you are speculating that it might be a prank or joke. As I have said before: death, is no joke. Apparently almost everybody at SEN has no shame, as events over the past few days of handling the loss of the SEN family doesn't appear to have any effect as everybody is acting like a complete idiot.
I know someones going to think that someone guessed the password to my account or is using some sort of spoofing technique to pretend to be Yoshi_da_Sniper. This post contains EXACTLY what I think. I am aware I have left but I after seeing the heartless actions of many of the people here, I have decided to truthfully express my feelings.
First off, WHY IN THE **** WOULD YOU CAPITALIZE ON THE DEATH OF A MEMBER OF THESE BOARDS? Yes. I'm sure nuclearrabbit would of wanted a tournament in her memory, or how about various signatures created by ripping off her avatar? If a friend or family member died, would you start hosting starcraft tournaments or creating photoshop signatures and avatars in honor of them? NO! You all absolutely miss the point. I'm pretty sure her friends and family are pretty much sickened by the heartless actions of people here. Whats even worse, is I haven't seen the current administration or moderation staff step in and take action. They actually find this acceptable...
"Showing respect" does not mean "spreading complete lies and sarcasm". I see some random person posting something like "I'm crying myself to sleep everyday" or "omg is it true lol" is not respectful. The sad thing is, these people didn't even know nuclearrabbit. I sure hope none of her family or friends were reading the kind of garbage you guys put up, because it was nothing but sarcasm and lies, from all of you. You cannot get anymore disrespectful if you treat the ones who know the deceased like complete idiots.
Honestly, I made the site, I have seen it grow, I have seen it have some good times. This my friends, is the end. We have passed the peak and it now appears that the site is in a decline, because apparently all the people I knew who had common sense are now gone or not very active. Nobody is left but apparenty people who have no clue how to treat serious situations.
As of now, a lot of the respect I had for many people is gone. There are like one or two people who treated the situation like it should have been in the first place. My message for you, is that you should step up and tell people what they are doing is WRONG. I think my future visits will be more infrequent and shorter in length now. I just can't believe the way people acted.
By the way. I notice that everytime I make a post like this, the people who applies to apparently change their additudes so fast and attempt to look smart or cool. Just for once, spare me. Pretty much everybody is gulity. What you should do instead, is reflect on the action, REALIZE there is something morally wrong with the actions of people here, identify future problems and speak up/take action about them. It is far too late to fix the damage that has already been done.
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QUOTE(SpaceBoy2000 @ Dec 30 2005, 12:16 AM)
I completely agree here. I have been here almost since the beginning, and I have never seen such insulting acts. I'm pretty sure most people would be banned long ago if they started posting anything like this. First of all, all the avatars and pictures just smacks of "let's all join the bandwagon". Even in the topic about her death, people start joking around, and act like goddamn ass holes. This sound familiar to you idiots? "*Removes hand from pants* Well shizta. You just ruined the moment, thanks -_-" You might as well start spitting on her grave. Is that what SEN has degraded into? A bunch of goddamn moron making lewd "jokes" when someone has DIED?! And the even worse part is that other people followed up on this as well. And no moderator or admin even commented on this at all. This shameful behaviour is acceptable on this forum?
Ah yes, the CTF tournament. I must agree with Mini Moose. I completely fail to see the how the tournament "honours" nuclearrabbit. Maybe if it's a map that she made, or one that she played a lot, it would've even made any sense at all. But now, it just look like an attempt to use the death of a member to promote one's map. As for "representing" nuclearrabbit in the tournament, is there no end to your depravity? You all seem to treat this as a big farking joke. Are you people immature lemmings or immoral bags of filth?
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Ah yes, the CTF tournament. I must agree with Mini Moose. I completely fail to see the how the tournament "honours" nuclearrabbit. Maybe if it's a map that she made, or one that she played a lot, it would've even made any sense at all. But now, it just look like an attempt to use the death of a member to promote one's map. As for "representing" nuclearrabbit in the tournament, is there no end to your depravity? You all seem to treat this as a big farking joke. Are you people immature lemmings or immoral bags of filth?
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You have no right to say I have no decency.
I mourned her death. I payed my respects to her. Wow.. I posted one, pathetic post to try to liven the mood, and make people laugh, but I get biznatched at for it?
How pathetic is that.
Don't YOU GUYS have decency?
QUOTE(Hitok1r1 @ Dec 30 2005, 03:27 AM)
Yoshi is right. We acted like idiots by saying "OMG, is she really dead?", or "Wtf, Nuclear is a she". Thats basically missing the whole point though. We should of just mourned for Nuclear instead of just spreading lies and flaming. The tournament has nothing to do with Nuclear, and is doing nothing to remember Nuclear.
Are you basically saying that, whats done is done and we have to get on with our lives eventually?
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Basically, I'm saying mourning is a phase and we eventually need to move on.
Are you basically saying that, whats done is done and we have to get on with our lives eventually?
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So wait. Let me get this straight.
You're saying everyone that posted, "Wtf, nuclear was a she" has no decency? What the hell is your problem? Ever heard of not being informed? Maybe they publicly wanted to announce that, so what the hell?
We get biznatched at because we try to liven the mood and make people laugh, and we publicly announce something we was ignorant of? What the hell is your guy's problems? People make mistakes. You come on here claiming you're here as human beings, but you degrade everyone here because they were ignorant? What kind of "human being" are you?
That's like me going up to somebody and beating the shiz out of them, because they asked a question to try to inform themselves. You just don't farking do it.
I thought you had more brains than that, Yoshi. I guess I was wrong.
I also think you have no right to say no-one has decency because they were in DENIAL (One of the steps of greviences) of nuclear's passing on.
Some decency YOU have.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2005-12-30 at 06:05:43
Ok. seriouly, cut the crap, please
I come back to the forums for a day, and i have to put up with all this?
1. For all of you that are playing the guessing game "was nuke a guy or girl" WHO GIVES A fark, nuke was a person, much loved in this community, why does it matter
2. For all the Bandwagon Nukers, Stop, it is fine to mourn, but it has turned into more of a trend than a mark of respect
3. For all you " I want proof " people. its possible you will never get proof. If you dont believe nuke has pass on, dont put those down that do, because you will be labeled an ass to the masses, which is never good.
4. For all the " I dont care " people. I hope people feel the same about you when you die
5. For the reverant ones who dedicated a simple post to nukes memory, thank you, i wish the rest of the people would be like you
And finally, Nuke wouldnt have wanted us to fight like this, so, cut the crap
I come back to the forums for a day, and i have to put up with all this?
1. For all of you that are playing the guessing game "was nuke a guy or girl" WHO GIVES A fark, nuke was a person, much loved in this community, why does it matter
2. For all the Bandwagon Nukers, Stop, it is fine to mourn, but it has turned into more of a trend than a mark of respect
3. For all you " I want proof " people. its possible you will never get proof. If you dont believe nuke has pass on, dont put those down that do, because you will be labeled an ass to the masses, which is never good.
4. For all the " I dont care " people. I hope people feel the same about you when you die
5. For the reverant ones who dedicated a simple post to nukes memory, thank you, i wish the rest of the people would be like you
And finally, Nuke wouldnt have wanted us to fight like this, so, cut the crap
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-30 at 06:27:08
If you don't like the way moderators are acting, why don't you sack them and get some new fresh moderators. 
Also it's a shame when you look at the topic for nuclearrabbit and you see just people argueing with each other and just writing garbage to make them selves look good 
and not respecting nuclearrabbits death, in my opinion if you didn't no him/her why would you post saying stuff and it turned out to be lets talk about the way he/she looks
In every forum you get your sensible people and then you get your **** heads it is those **** heads that spoil things. Do not think that everyone on this forum is a **** head Yoshi because they arn't.
Also it's a shame when you look at the topic for nuclearrabbit and you see just people argueing with each other and just writing garbage to make them selves look good and not respecting nuclearrabbits death, in my opinion if you didn't no him/her why would you post saying stuff and it turned out to be lets talk about the way he/she looks QUOTE
Look at the eyebrows and the shape of the nose.
come on people the person has died!!!. In every forum you get your sensible people and then you get your **** heads it is those **** heads that spoil things. Do not think that everyone on this forum is a **** head Yoshi because they arn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2005-12-30 at 06:33:51
yoshi cant sack them cause this isnt his site anymore? hmm?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-30 at 06:39:41
Oh yea it's isolated purity's isn't it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2005-12-30 at 07:32:15
I am sorry if someone thought I acted wrong in the thing about honor Nuclearrabbit's death. I will now change my signature and my avatar if someone is thinking that it's showing disrespect to Nuclearrabbit. But I actually thought she died and I will proceed thinking that way until either Nuclearrabbit or someone else comes with a trustworthy evidence that she actually is alive.
Well...
Well...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-12-30 at 09:13:59
Death is no laughing matter. I have experienced many deaths in my family. However, this is the first time that someone I'd talked to exclusively over the internet has died. The big difference here is that when it happened to a family member or friend I personally know, I always saw a body. With the internet, you get no such closure from that because the death comes to you via text. I think having some sort of denial about the death in the first place, and then closure for it is only natural. I can remember being a kid and trying to prove that someone had kidnapped people that just died and placed a dummy of them in a casket. Pure, utter denial.
As for my own behavior, with my trying to investigate Nuke's gender (and my "Exhibit B" post, which I'm sorry for), it was only a manifestation of the natural distrust and superstition I bring to the internet. I'm 21 years old, and I've never, in my life, been as active on the internet as I have been over the last few months. Years of growing superstition (which I believe is the best word to describe it) for how much trust I could place in the internet manifested in a distasteful and disrespectful way, and I'm sorry for that. Ignorance is no excuse, so all I can do at this point is apologize and treat this event with as much taste as I can.
And about the avatars and signatures, I've come to a realization. Nuclearrabbit had very strong feelings and beliefs in the idea of anarchy. I, myself, do not share those same feelings and beliefs. But when I asked myself how many people who are non-Jewish would carry around a star of David if a Jewish friend died, I know that answer is probably none. For that reason, I'm changing my avatar back to the way it was. My personal beliefs do not represent anarchy, and it's an improper way to try and show respect.
This is all so different for me and I have a lot more thinking to do about it, but that's all I'm going to say now.
As for my own behavior, with my trying to investigate Nuke's gender (and my "Exhibit B" post, which I'm sorry for), it was only a manifestation of the natural distrust and superstition I bring to the internet. I'm 21 years old, and I've never, in my life, been as active on the internet as I have been over the last few months. Years of growing superstition (which I believe is the best word to describe it) for how much trust I could place in the internet manifested in a distasteful and disrespectful way, and I'm sorry for that. Ignorance is no excuse, so all I can do at this point is apologize and treat this event with as much taste as I can.
And about the avatars and signatures, I've come to a realization. Nuclearrabbit had very strong feelings and beliefs in the idea of anarchy. I, myself, do not share those same feelings and beliefs. But when I asked myself how many people who are non-Jewish would carry around a star of David if a Jewish friend died, I know that answer is probably none. For that reason, I'm changing my avatar back to the way it was. My personal beliefs do not represent anarchy, and it's an improper way to try and show respect.
This is all so different for me and I have a lot more thinking to do about it, but that's all I'm going to say now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-12-30 at 09:58:01
That's why I tend to stay away from funerals and in this first experience for me, an online one.
People act all crazy, most of them get too hypocritical and the rest tends to go into trying to prove everything is fake and dumb. Then there's the very few saying that people should act one way or another.
It's all fine by me, if that's the way that you act at the loss of a forum member, then so be it, but do it with respect.
People act all crazy, most of them get too hypocritical and the rest tends to go into trying to prove everything is fake and dumb. Then there's the very few saying that people should act one way or another.
It's all fine by me, if that's the way that you act at the loss of a forum member, then so be it, but do it with respect.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-30 at 10:15:33
I agree that the jokes about it are terrible, but what's so bad about having avatars/sigs to remember her? It's just memory; Maybe there's truth to that they shouldn't copy her avatar/sig, but what about a simple sig or avatar showing that you remember, and that her death means something?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-12-30 at 10:23:25
Okay, I see that the avatar thing was no good idea and I change it back now. Sorry to anyone that it could have made feel uncomfortable.
However, I totally agree with yoshi about the tournament. I don't think it is a good idea.
However, I totally agree with yoshi about the tournament. I don't think it is a good idea.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-30 at 10:33:31
QUOTE(Silver-Dragon @ Dec 30 2005, 03:15 PM)
I agree that the jokes about it are terrible, but what's so bad about having avatars/sigs to remember her? It's just memory; Maybe there's truth to that they shouldn't copy her avatar/sig, but what about a simple sig or avatar showing that you remember, and that her death means something?
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True, but it has been the way in which people have done so
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-30 at 10:35:01
They way they made avatars and siggies about it? I haven't seen anything disrespectful in them yet. Except if you count the fact that people copy Nuke's avatar, anyway (I don't count that).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-12-30 at 10:49:50
I agree with Kellimoose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-12-30 at 11:03:41
Far as I knew, DEAD was going to do a tournament anyway. Here's the message he PMed me, in which he mentioned nothing about nuclearrabbit's death.
Some say that Yoshi overreacted; I can only partially agree. I do think he went overboard putting down people speculating whether or not the whole thing may have been a hoax (benefit of doubt and all that) and members who used her avatar in their signatures (personally it did seem respectful to me). But, I do side with him on the other things he said.
However, I've been here active enough lately to have, sadly, grown accustomed to immature comments of all kinds. 5 words were really sufficient: shut up and grow up.
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Message Forwarded From DEAD
I am planing to start UMS Capture the flag tournament on SEN. To enter tourney you have to have team of 4 players. The tourney will be based on CTF StarFort.
Anyway, if you are interested to join the tourney I ask you to make up and lead 4 player team.
I will start the tourney thread when I get Moose supporting it and few ppl will agree to lead teams. The games will start sometime in January.
Thanks, and I hope for a co-operation
I am planing to start UMS Capture the flag tournament on SEN. To enter tourney you have to have team of 4 players. The tourney will be based on CTF StarFort.
Anyway, if you are interested to join the tourney I ask you to make up and lead 4 player team.
I will start the tourney thread when I get Moose supporting it and few ppl will agree to lead teams. The games will start sometime in January.
Thanks, and I hope for a co-operation
Some say that Yoshi overreacted; I can only partially agree. I do think he went overboard putting down people speculating whether or not the whole thing may have been a hoax (benefit of doubt and all that) and members who used her avatar in their signatures (personally it did seem respectful to me). But, I do side with him on the other things he said.
However, I've been here active enough lately to have, sadly, grown accustomed to immature comments of all kinds. 5 words were really sufficient: shut up and grow up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-12-30 at 11:35:27
All the newbs using nucclearrabbit's avatar should be banned.