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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Extralucas on 2004-06-11 at 17:33:42
Dark Archons when mind controlling units also 'capture' their upgrades. You can have a location where there is Dark Archon matching difficulty level from time to time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-06-11 at 17:44:53
QUOTE(xXLordSlippyXx @ Jun 11 2004, 01:52 AM)
just change it from

{ALIGN=center}
to
{CENTER}

and the last thing from

{/Align}

to
{/CENTER}


And change all the "{"  to "["  without the ""

My bad, I fixed it. I changed the bb code a while ago tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Locke on 2004-06-11 at 19:02:22
You were only going to make 5 characters for 5 players?!?! Mine has 12 for 5 players, you need more selection and you dont want someone forced into the last and worst hero.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Harros on 2004-06-11 at 19:09:18
But if your trying to create a map with a real storyline that directly effects certain party members, you need to force people into slots.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Locke on 2004-06-11 at 19:16:11
This is true but i dotn liek games like that with required heros and all its sucky when you need so many players or lose cause one persons recklessness
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2004-06-11 at 21:44:37
This is little advanced but You might wanna give it a try. Ok, You need a 3 Computer. and it uses Ai ( Artificial Intelligence ) Used for CPU.
Ok, You first need to make a useless comp, Ok Set up a Town Area, and put locations to it. and Run Ai ( Set Ally Here ) and make the units NOT go out of that location or it will fail. and the Set Ally Here will make the player only that area a ally, but outside that area of player will not be an ally.
Got it?

CONDITIONS:
Always
(You can set any condition, some conditions will not work, ask me if you want)
ACTIONS:
Run Ai 'Set Ally' here at Location 'XXX'.
Preserve Trigger.
(Comments and Extra Stuff can be Added)

Ok?

BtW: If your not that stupid, It would be probably ez or your just lucky.
It's not even hard anyways...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valahan on 2004-06-11 at 22:54:14
I just got a brilliant Idea! You don't need 3 CPUs to have different difficulties in your RPG, you can still pull it off with 2 CPUs.

CPU1:
-Terran Infantry attack/armor levels: 0
-Terran Ground Metal attack/armor levels: 0
-Terran Air Metal attack/armor levels: 0
-Stim: 0
-spider mines: 0
-Vulture speed: 0
-Siege: 0(unless it's a boss, who gets siege)

-Zerg Melee levels: 3
-Zerg Range levels: 3
-Zerg Armor levels 3
-Zerg Air attack levels: 3
-Zerg Air armor levels: 3
-Hydra Range: 0
-hydra move speed: 0
-Ling attack speed: 0
-ling move speed: 0

-Protoss Melee: 5
-Protoss ground Armor: 5
-Protoss Shields: 5
-Protoss Air armor: 5
-Protoss Air attack: 5
-Zealot speed: 0
-Dragoon range: 0
-Reaver damage upgrade: 0
-Carrier Capacity: 0
-Scout upgrades(sight/speed): 0

ETC ETC.

Sure enough, with this system you can still ramp up the difficulty, just use Terran CPU1 as the starting, Zerg CPU1 as stage1, Protoss CPU1 as stage2, Race CPU2 as stage3, Race CPU2 as stage4, Race CPU2 as stage 4, Mix and match units for different stages.(or you can start off the Zerg as Starting(0 upgrades) and have terran be stage 1(level 3 upgrades). Just make it fit how you want it man.

You can even put Stage 3 and a half: Half units from stage 4, half from stage 3. Or stage 3 and 1/4: 1/4 units from stage 4, 3/4 units from stage 3.

For CPU2, you will probably want to upgrade the speed, range, other special abilities. It gives the effect of the same unit who's had better training/lived longer, so they are more powerful. This leaves you place for 5 ppl, 2 cpu and 1 neutral.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mephisto on 2004-06-11 at 23:04:50
QUOTE(Locke @ Jun 11 2004, 06:02 PM)
You were only going to make 5 characters for 5 players?!?! Mine has 12 for 5 players, you need more selection and you dont want someone forced into the last and worst hero.

true....it is, but there are 6 selectable units, and each player can choose w/e he wants, cause more than one person can be the same unit! biggrin.gif i think it's more fun like that
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valahan on 2004-06-11 at 23:12:36
You also don't want "mismatched units" to be selectable. Like this one RPG, it's Firebat, Zergling, Dark Archon, Ghost... talk about a crappy RPG. The bat does no damage, and ends up killing the Zergling. The ghost can't harm anything but small units, and the dark archon gets no attack, and no mindcontrol(unless he casts it using a beacon spell system)

Craptacular RPG.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Harros on 2004-06-11 at 23:42:26
And most likely because the ghost does no damage it is second to die (right after the firebat kills the ling tongue.gif). Then you have to face some air boss with a firebat and a dark archon! FUN!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valahan on 2004-06-11 at 23:58:53
How is the ghost most likely to die second, since it does no damage? It's ranged... the second unit to die is the firebat because it is in melee. Third to die is the Ghost, cause they move slow, and fourth to die is the Dark Archon(summons a beast, not mind control), so that summon will take all the damage. Best best in the RPG is the use the Dark Archon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mephisto on 2004-06-12 at 00:04:36
actually, it goes like this

Rine--> Hero Rine--->Hero Bat
Ultra--> Hero Ultra ---> Hero Ling
Zealot--> Hero Zealot --> Hero Archon
Goliath--> Hero Goliath --> Hero Siege Tank
Dark Temp-->Hero Dark Temp--> Hero Dark Temp

hm...i guess there are only 5 choices...but people have played, i've had a game with one of each, and everyone seems to die in random enough order, no units terribly stronger than another, it's fairly well ballanced pokey.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Harros on 2004-06-12 at 00:05:11
I would say the ghost and the firebat are actually about equal because the ghost normally has the least armor and health and with out the ling to keep units back and the firebat torching everything, the ghost will normally try its luck on its own. Unless it has cloak, in which case it can sometimes last as long as the archon. :-P


EDIT: I would go bat to marine. I would also go tank to golly but thats just me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mephisto on 2004-06-12 at 00:08:18
well...i started like that (bat to rine) but some guys i know said it would be cooler with rine to bad, and other people seemed to like that, so it's a keeper, but the tank to goli thing, i might try that out cool1.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-06-12 at 01:03:16
I know I'm not the person to say this, but um... does this belong in the help forum any longer?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mephisto on 2004-06-12 at 01:11:26
So why the hell did you say it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-06-12 at 01:24:09
Maybe someone whose job this stuff is would see it. blink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Harros on 2004-06-12 at 02:13:02
We are still assisting him in making his map by giving him suggestions on units.

And by the way, where else would it go!? blink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-06-12 at 02:14:14
hmmm. Talking about maps maybe? w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Harros on 2004-06-12 at 02:20:23
QUOTE
Staredit and Map Making
You can show off your maps, give ideas, tell everyone what you're working on, or discuss staredit.


QUOTE
Map Making Assistance
Need help on your map? Get some from the community!


Map Making Assistance sounds like a better choice to me as we are still giving him ideas to make his map better...

Besides, do you really expect a mod to move every topic as soon as it's subject shifts?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mephisto on 2004-06-12 at 02:29:49
Why Thank You Harros, i am still experimenting with different things to see how it all works out, still i've yet to find something i'm completely satisfied with....therefore i will continue to leave this post in the forum because i will continue to take ideas and try them all out if you dont have any suggestions other than it shouldnt be here kruser...perhaps you should just not post on this string closedeyes.gif

Hehe, i'm very proud my first string has made 4 pages in just over 2 days w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-06-12 at 15:22:50
QUOTE(Harros)
QUOTE

tell everyone what you're working on



Isn't that what we're doing by now?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mephisto on 2004-06-12 at 15:33:45
So maybe you missed the point when i said i'm still looking for suggestions and trying things out? And also
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I know I'm not the person to say this, but um... does this belong in the help forum any longer?

just give it up, if they dont want this string here...they'll move it, so once again, unless you have a suggestion for the map, stop posting in my thread, because i see, new reply by whoever, and i look expecting a new suggestion but instead...its you b censored.gif ing about how this string doesnt belong here...STOP!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-06-12 at 23:18:43
OK OK OK!

If you shut up about it ohmy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-06-13 at 00:48:00
This topic has served it's purpose and is just turning into crap now.

So.... it gets....
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