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Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-03-18 at 18:10:30
QUOTE(HeRtZ @ Mar 15 2006, 02:28 AM)
We raped the USSR.
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It was USSR that raped itself. If it had to be something else that raped USSR, it would be the communist countries in Europe that the soviets took over.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Middle_Finger on 2006-03-19 at 04:56:19
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Mar 19 2006, 02:10 AM)
It was USSR that raped itself. If it had to be something else that raped USSR, it would be the communist countries in Europe that the soviets took over.
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i agree with you on that one. Ussr could use another strategy, like Rome did when it was still 1 city & it was expanding on Italy : When they took over a town, they OR gave it's civilans full roman rights & freedoms, OR give them not all rights & freedoms OR give them nothing & keep them allmost as slaves. Becawse of this, those city's had no reason to unite vs. Romans.

i think it's a great idea for taking over small countries. they will never unite & make a revolution.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ermac on 2006-03-20 at 08:12:16
QUOTE(Middle_Finger @ Mar 18 2006, 10:26 PM)
I understand, that in Latvia, Lithunia & Estonia are very much russian-speaking people.

A country with lot of cultures is harder to controll then a country that has not much cultures in it.

That is why they are trying to "get russians out".
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Maybe it's just in Latvia, i haven't heard of any Russian discrimination in Lithuania.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-03-20 at 14:25:50
QUOTE(Ermac @ Mar 20 2006, 04:11 PM)
Maybe it's just in Latvia, i haven't heard of any Russian discrimination in Lithuania.
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you are right that in lithuania it's much less. but in latvia it exists.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kyuubi. on 2006-03-20 at 15:51:58
the USSR is dead today. there is still some communism left but it is pretty much contained all. notice how china and some countries are americanizing like us?they have fast food places like mcdonalds and stuff...but anyway we are friendly towards them now.

We were a superpower country with them after world war 2 and the cold war is just like a tug of war. not really a war but a show off of power and technology.

we were pretty much competing on which is the best in advancing in technology and stuff and sending objects and people into space
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-03-21 at 05:48:00
yes, USSR is dead, but ideas still exist, like:

kommunism (wich is a great idea, if you change it a bit, look at china - the most fast progressing & growing country in the world)

if you compare people in the former USSR countries, they have different mentality, then other people. for example: a 20 year old guy comes to work, where most of the people are 35-40 years old. if someone of the more-old people says "help me out with something" the young one will say "it's not my buisness", allthow they work in a team. the young one does only what he is told to do & nothing more, cuz he isn't payed for it. but the older guys help each other out all the time. the young guy's character is called "individualism". mostly western people are individualists. a good example is new orlean: everybody took guns & started guarding their own teritory, & didnt belive in goverment "we'll handle it on our own".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-03-21 at 21:34:32
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Mar 10 2006, 04:04 PM)
Russia is really into making beautiful people  drool.gif
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Word

QUOTE(TheDaddy0420 @ Mar 11 2006, 11:16 AM)
Yea I know, cause I have a girlfriend  ermm.gif
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Then you shouldn't be thinkin those things, now should you?

QUOTE(HeRtZ @ Mar 15 2006, 01:28 AM)
We raped the USSR.
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Read below:

QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Mar 18 2006, 04:10 PM)
It was USSR that raped itself. If it had to be something else that raped USSR, it would be the communist countries in Europe that the soviets took over.
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Pwned.

USSR is demolised. There cannot be a Soviet Socialist Republic because there are no loner Socialism or Republicism in Russia. In surrounding countries, possibly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-03-21 at 21:43:16
I never noticed this thread. I don't think US did anything to harm USSR. If anything, then it was the overexertion and inflation caused by it. The scientific race with US caused that. But that was rather minor.

The very reason why USSR failed was similar to how old Russian Empire failed; it depressed Russians and lost the "Mandate of Heaven," as Chinese would say it. It lost the general support of the people and soon lost the control of the politics and its economy went down. Because of the failed wars and depression, the USSR failed. Also, the inequality among the riches and the poors, excuse me, too much equality, caused the downfall of the USSR as well. The doctors got paid the same amount as a scumbag who works at a factory. This discouraged the intellectual advancements in the Russia and soon slowed down Russia as inefficient, unintellectual government.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-03-22 at 08:12:52
QUOTE(DeadlyInnocence @ Mar 22 2006, 05:42 AM)
I never noticed this thread. I don't think US did anything to harm USSR. If anything, then it was the overexertion and inflation caused by it. The scientific race with US caused that. But that was rather minor.

The very reason why USSR failed was similar to how old Russian Empire failed; it depressed Russians and lost the "Mandate of Heaven," as Chinese would say it. It lost the general support of the people and soon lost the control of the politics and its economy went down. Because of the failed wars and depression, the USSR failed. Also, the inequality among the riches and the poors, excuse me, too much equality, caused the downfall of the USSR as well. The doctors got paid the same amount as a scumbag who works at a factory. This discouraged the intellectual advancements in the Russia and soon slowed down Russia as inefficient, unintellectual government.

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actually money didnt matter that much, becawse most of things were free, or EXTREMELY CHEAP. for example - you pay for your flat about a dollar a month. phone, gas, electrisity,water - about 5 dollars... (if i transfer approximetly correct)
the only minus was taht the quality of life was low... but the soviet person had 1 thing a person from a nother country didnt have... he was sure of tomorrow.
in democracy if you loose your job, you can have nothing to eat the next day, but in USSR, all the people were busy, all knew, that they will have somethng to eat tomorrow. today only the richest countries can afford such social protection.
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