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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-21 at 17:23:53
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG @ Mar 22 2006, 01:14 AM)

I wouldn't say that it's the older members that contribute to SeN's post quality downfall. There are so few of us left that even if we intended to, there wouldn't be much that we can do. I'd say that it's more of a series of events that have been elading to this. People talked behind other people's back, mostly via AIM and messenger and started hatred towards other members and such. 
I've been witness of such conversations, sometimes I'll get invited to these 20+ people MSN conversations and I'll go afk. I'll be reading all the crap that people say about other members and that's the first point to this.

Second are the "so-called" Kellimus and YaeXirillion types. Sure, they break rules more often than other people, but these type of people disagree with a vast majority and by this disagreement and explosiveness flaming, people start flaming back for no reason. "Oh, he flamed me first!" I'd warn the original flamer +20% and the person who flamed back +40%.
People think that because they see others break rules and post stupid comments means that they can do so also. If you've been here since 2004, you will see that SeN doesn't downgrade in post quality periodically, it goes down when certain events are taking place.
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Yea, except the fact that those 2 bitches rexy and kame are running around flaming everybody with an excuse "Because moose like's me and doesn't like you". The same is with other old members like DK, who you see can flame cause he has fond glitches and stuff. You know, I hate when elitism comes to this level and it is upmost disgusting to me puke.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-03-21 at 17:23:56
Yoshi wouldn't be able to do anything. He isn't an administrator anymore.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2006-03-21 at 17:25:12
QUOTE(Valug @ Mar 21 2006, 05:23 PM)
Im hungry, im going to go get some food...
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And you say SEN is dying cuz of spammers...Example...

QUOTE(Valug)
Im hungry, im going to go get some food...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-21 at 17:29:48
If you remember correctly, the Kame got warned recently for flaming.

And Rexy doesn't really flame, she doesn't really post much ;|
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-21 at 17:31:52
QUOTE(DEAD @ Mar 21 2006, 05:03 PM)
Quite opposite my friend.

It's a mixture of both. I would think if yoshi was still here Yae and Kellimus wouldn't have been on SEN as long as they were.

QUOTE(DEAD)
The few older members who have not left are the ones who are doing the real corruption.

Right. I'm sure Moose is the reason why there is so much flamming, it had to start somewhere, and I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the people who've known the rules for years to come.

QUOTE(DEAD)
I haven't seen any self-control you are talking about in Cheeze, kame, rexy, Golden-arm, DK, merrell and so on. Being older members doesn't make them better...[right][snapback]449965[/snapback][/right]

I don't know why you refered to me as Golden-Arm, or on that list at all. Perhaps you have a different meaning to "Old" then what "Old members" think. If you're Old, it means you 1st: Give a shiz about the site 2nd: Actually made maps or were part of the staff. Because of these two things this automatically marks me off the list. I've made it very clear I really could care less if SEN crashed one day and never came back. I don't know the thoughts of my Lover but chances are they're not far off from mine. But don't take my word for it.

Kame hasn't done anything? You mean the member who has started at least 5 different methods of trying to make SEN better and back to how it was before? Or the other Kame who tried to get rid of the flammers as quickly as possible? Compared to what anyone else has done she's one of the better ones even if she might've flammed someone once or twice.

I don't know about Merrell, CheeZe, or that much of DK. But I know DK is strict which is something SEN hasn't seen for a while. Go back to V3 SEN, a slight spam like quoting someone else as your entire post (Like what 50% of the people in Null do) then you'd get %20 warn. I don't think DK has been doing that but you can't bring it all back at once.

Also just because we're old doesn't mean we're obligated to help SEN survive. You don't see a bunch of 80 year olds fighting in the war. The younger generation has just as much responsibility as the older ones. It just so happens some older members are actual staff and it's there job to help. The other members don't have to do shiz.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-03-21 at 17:32:21
Ya SeN might not be as good as it used to, but its not dead yet.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-03-21 at 17:32:54
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Jar of Almonds.



Nice inside joke. tongue.gif


I've noticed a decline in the post count...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-21 at 17:34:50
QUOTE(DEAD @ Mar 21 2006, 05:23 PM)
Yea, except the fact that those 2 bitches rexy and kame are running around flaming everybody with an excuse "Because moose like's me and doesn't like you".[right][snapback]449992[/snapback][/right]

Dead that's great that your pissed off and crap but to refer to two people as "biznatches" is uncalled for. If you want to be a pompous jackash then go to the GameFAQs fourm, it's very welcomed there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-03-21 at 17:37:03
O.o I like kame, shes pretty kool. wink.gif


Rexy just has mood swings lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-21 at 17:38:27
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Mar 22 2006, 01:31 AM)

It's a mixture of both. I would think if yoshi was still here Yae and Kellimus wouldn't have been on SEN as long as they were.
I don't know why you refered to me as Golden-Arm, or on that list at all. Perhaps you have a different meaning to "Old" then what "Old members" think. If you're Old, it means you 1st: Give a shiz about the site 2nd: Actually made maps or were part of the staff. Because of these two things this automatically marks me off the list. I've made it very clear I really could care less if SEN crashed one day and never came back. I don't know the thoughts of my Lover but chances are they're not far off from mine. But don't take my word for it.

Kame hasn't done anything? You mean the member who has started at least 5 different methods of trying to make SEN better and back to how it was before? Or the other Kame who tried to get rid of the flammers as quickly as possible? Compared to what anyone else has done she's one of the better ones even if she might've flammed someone once or twice.

I don't know about Merrell, CheeZe, or that much of DK. But I know DK is strict which is something SEN hasn't seen for a while. Go back to V3 SEN, a slight spam like quoting someone else as your entire post (Like what 50% of the people in Null do) then you'd get %20 warn. I don't think DK has been doing that but you can't bring it all back at once.

Also just because we're old doesn't mean we're obligated to help SEN survive. You don't see a bunch of 80 year olds fighting in the war. The younger generation has just as much responsibility as the older ones. It just so happens some older members are actual staff and it's there job to help. The other members don't have to do shiz.
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You see, you are talking about what they once did or who they were. Thats elitism and thats killing SEN right now. Whatever they did before, this is now, and it doesn't give them rights to screw up now. How about we forget about everyone's past profile and threat every single member the same?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-21 at 17:41:03
QUOTE(DEAD @ Mar 21 2006, 05:38 PM)
You see, you are talking about what they once did or who they were. Thats elitism and thats killing SEN right now. Whatever they did before, this is now, and it doesn't give them rights to screw up now. How about we forget about everyone's past profile and threat every single member the same?
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I have a better idea why don't you try comparing anyone else's past and see what they did that was so great.
What's that?
Nothing?
At least they made an attempt, then people like yourself and most people in this thread just kept complaining and turning down every suggestion made. So they might've given up? Or maybe they're still thinking of new ways to help but can't think of any. That's still a lot better then what you've done or other people. I'll make a clear statement:

SAYING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVEN'T DONE DOESN'T HELP SEN AT ALL.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-03-21 at 17:42:49
and both you and DEAD's flame war isnt helping eather. can we PLEASE have a nice discussion for once?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-03-21 at 17:45:15
QUOTE(DEAD @ Mar 21 2006, 06:23 PM)
Yea, except the fact that those 2 bitches rexy and kame are running around flaming everybody with an excuse "Because moose like's me and doesn't like you".
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Both of those "bitches" I consider "friends", and one of them is stepping up to a bigger moderator job that SEN could ever offer for her abilities. It'd be in your best interest to rethink that statement and look at yourself instead of others.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-21 at 17:46:56
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Mar 22 2006, 01:40 AM)

I have a better idea why don't you try comparing anyone else's past and see what they did that was so great.
What's that?
Nothing?
At least they made an attempt, then people like yourself and most people in this thread just kept complaining and turning down every suggestion made. So they might've given up? Or maybe they're still thinking of new ways to help but can't think of any. That's still a lot better then what you've done or other people. I'll make a clear statement:

SAYING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVEN'T DONE DOESN'T HELP SEN AT ALL.

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Where did I say something about what they didn't do? I was saying let's forget what they done before because they are screwing up now. Man, I am disappointed, you can't seem to understand what I mean all the time. BTW what exactly I have turned down?

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 22 2006, 01:44 AM)
Both of those "bitches" I consider "friends", and one of them is stepping up to a bigger moderator job that SEN could ever offer for her abilities. It'd be in your best interest to rethink that statement and look at yourself instead of others.
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Maybe if you watch what your friends are doing lately, you would rethink your request?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-03-21 at 17:47:02
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Mar 21 2006, 10:44 PM)
Both of those "bitches" I consider "friends", and one of them is stepping up to a bigger moderator job that SEN could ever offer for her abilities. It'd be in your best interest to rethink that statement and look at yourself instead of others.
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THANK THE LORD! YOSHI IS HERE!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-21 at 17:47:15
QUOTE(DEAD @ Mar 21 2006, 05:45 PM)
Where did I say something about what they didn't do? I was saying let's forget what they done before because they are screwing up now. Man, I am disappointed, you can't seem to understand what I mean all the time. BTW what exactly I have turned down?
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You yourself, probably nothing. But a lot of other people have, you're not really the spokesperson for all of SEN in case you didn't get the memo. And you said to forget abuot what they tried to do, in which I responded that trying is better then doing nothing like most people
QUOTE(Cloud @ Mar 21 2006, 05:42 PM)
and both you and DEAD's flame war isnt helping eather. can we PLEASE have a nice discussion for once?
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It's not a flame war, we're just talking in a mean manner to each other. And posting "Kame is cool, rexy has mood swings" doesn't help either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-03-21 at 17:49:17
JUST ONE NICE DAMN DISCUSSION WHERE WE DONT HAVE TO ARGUE? IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK!


(this is called pleading not getting mad)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-21 at 17:50:49
Neither does the PRAISE THE LROD YOSHI IS HERE, Cloud tongue.gif
With Cloud's last post, I've came to a conclusion, none of his posts are worth reading XD

Anyway, do you guys remember Chris/ShadowPaladain, he was banned, even though he was one of the first members of SEN, and Yoshi's friend. The elite group of people can still be punished.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-21 at 17:53:05
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Mar 21 2006, 05:50 PM)
Anyway, do you guys remember Chris/ShadowPaladain, he was banned, even though he was one of the first members of SEN, and Yoshi's friend. The elite group of people can still be punished.[right][snapback]450036[/snapback][/right]

I don't know that Shadow Padlin left before he was ever banned. I remember his leaving message. I don't know anything about Chris.
QUOTE(Cloud)
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Stop. Posting.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-03-21 at 17:55:02
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Mar 21 2006, 10:52 PM)
Stop. Posting.
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See this is the shiz I'm talking about. MATURITY LEVEL is in the negatives from you. Grow up and stop crying about everyones posts, if you don't like what they farking have to say then IGNORE them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-03-21 at 17:55:43
QUOTE(DEAD @ Mar 21 2006, 06:46 PM)
Maybe if you watch what your friends are doing lately, you would rethink your request?
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Their private activities on SEN and other related things are none of my consern. There is no "request" I must rethink. I may not have moderator abilities but I do stay in contact with Mini Moose and Isolated Purity, both of which I can talk to about your behaviour. Maybe you should try to stop provoking people and do something useful for a change.

SEN isn't really having a "downfall", its more like there 5 people trolling the boards, registering new accounts, etc. The thing they want, is attention. They cannot do anything with their meaningless lives besides go on a website where nobody likes them and they are not welcome. Instead of doing something productive, or "creating" things like the website was first founded for, they choose to waste their time "destroying" and "trolling" an internet forum.

It is ammusing to hear how many countless hours these people spend trying to get everyones attention and anger people with no point whatsoever.

Guys, I think you all know who the trolls are in this forum. The next time someone is just here to anger you, flaming back or responding to them is what they want. What you REALLY need to be doing is ignoring them. Trolls can't stand being ignored. Just post something like "I don't reply to trolls", and be done with it. You'll be angering them more, because you're letting them know that you don't care for them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2006-03-21 at 17:56:35
I hate topics like this that cause flame wars.

Someone close this already...And give the Barbie doll what it deserves...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2006-03-21 at 18:02:21
Ah... wise words from Yoshi. Heed them well.

The flaming will stop from this point on. If you don't want to be a part of the people who will get suspended, then don't take part in the flaming. Ignore it and move on, only the orginial person will be seen as an ass and be dealt with as such.

I really rather concentrate on scripting... but since you guys can't seem to be mature enough to have decent conversations without someone constantly moderating you, perhaps I should visit senv4 more often.
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