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Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-04-18 at 07:24:56
anyway, the media in the USSR was much worser. it's normal to have biased media, cuz it's all for money. & cuz it's for money it can't be totally for the people.
+ politics is involved in media too much.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-18 at 15:37:09
Do you not pay attention? For christ sakes!

THAT'S WHAT THE US DOES, TOO
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-04-19 at 23:35:29
Thats what every one does. Except in America the left wing is a bit more hateful with name calling etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-04-19 at 23:45:11
That's not even close to true.

Or maybe I've just been listening to way too many extremists (which seem to dominate the right-wing people).

Behold: www.fstdt.com
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-04-21 at 21:09:48
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Apr 19 2006, 07:44 PM)
That's not even close to true.

Or maybe I've just been listening to way too many extremists (which seem to dominate the right-wing people).

Behold: www.fstdt.com
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If you think theres no hateful name calling and hate driven agendas on the left wing then you are truely blind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-04-22 at 01:56:52
Extremists suck, whether they are left or right winged. However, the existence of both are needed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-04-23 at 18:26:11
Well, the Left has an agenda which includes taking away my video games. The left wing is politically weak as well. The Right's agenda apparently includes putting religion into schools (intelligent design, aka, creationism), as well as paving the way for the oil industries, SUV manufacturers and other dirty industries (gas prices increase, yet oil companies make more money as the Bush administration makes sure them oil buddies don't get too much trouble, the Kyoto Protocol was not signed, fuel restrictions are not going to be put in place, the Bush administration has long denied Global Warming).

Do I want a party which will apparently take away some of my entertainment and probably fail at anything good, or a party which will put religion into schools, make the environment worse and gas prices higher? I'll sacrifice games for freedom.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-04-24 at 17:13:34
Then you sacrifice the 1st amendment I believe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-04-24 at 17:39:08
I'd rather sacrifice the freedom to buy violent video games for freedom of religion, freedom to practice my money, freedom of mobility, and freedom to breathe fresh air.

Oh, did I mention I'd also be keeping my freedom of privacy and my freedom to be euthanized when I'm a vegetable? Gee, six excellent freedoms are what I get for sacrificing a single freedom. I've made the right choice, and you and I both already know that I cannot be convinced to become conservative.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-24 at 17:58:39
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Then you sacrifice the 1st amendment I believe.
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And your precious Patriot Act doesn't?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-04-24 at 18:10:45
definately a pwn kelli.

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Thats what every one does. Except in America the left wing is a bit more hateful with name calling etc.

Thats actually total bullshiz. The left simply uses normal termsthat anyone could guess what it means. A.K.A. "fark You meanie!"

Whereas the Right will use politically correct terms and attacks such as "I believe him to be mentally insane." and "If we were to abort all black children, crime would go down." Things like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-24 at 18:13:07
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And your precious Patriot Act doesn't?


Not really, it doesn't take away our rights like some other people are making it out to be.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-24 at 18:16:01
Hmm... What if I was to say i'm going to kill the president? What will happen?

I will go straight to prison with no trial by my peers, or even a trial by that matter.

Guess what? You can't use the argument that you never could do that, because just about 7 years ago, I could!

Uh oh! I have a question, I was just thinking about you actually, while I loaded a batch of laundry: Have you hit puberty?

Because judging by how you believe everything an authority figure says, you have the mentality of a twelve year old.

Ad Hocs are for the weak minded.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-24 at 18:30:18
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Hmm... What if I was to say i'm going to kill the president? What will happen?

I will go straight to prison with no trial by my peers, or even a trial by that matter.

Guess what? You can't use the argument that you never could do that, because just about 7 years ago, I could!

Uh oh! I have a question, I was just thinking about you actually, while I loaded a batch of laundry: Have you hit puberty?

Because judging by how you believe everything an authority figure says, you have the mentality of a twelve year old.

Ad Hocs are for the weak minded.


First of all, you have to be retarded to say something in public like "I'm going to kill the president", people with common sense do not go around saying things like that.

How do you know what I believe anyways? Just because I disagree on a few issue with you? Ok ya, really mature. And I know you're going to say something along the lines of "What do you know about maturity, blah blah blah you're younger than I am by far".

If you can't get the point I've been trying to get across through your thick head in several topics and many posts now, then you never will.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-24 at 18:52:08
QUOTE(Stalingrad @ Apr 24 2006, 03:29 PM)
First of all, you have to be retarded to say something in public like "I'm going to kill the president", people with common sense do not go around saying things like that.

How do you know what I believe anyways? Just because I disagree on a few issue with you? Ok ya, really mature. And I know you're going to say something along the lines of "What do you know about maturity, blah blah blah you're younger than I am by far".

If you can't get the point I've been trying to get across through your thick head in several topics and many posts now, then you never will.
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Hmm.. Of course they are. That's why I never did it. Apparently, you have failed to see the point in which I tried to bring up. Must be worded to intelligently for you.

And I'm not getting maturity into this, so why are you? I'm just trying to prove my point of how you take everything in like a sheep does. Judging by your repetitious forms of argument that aren't thought through much, you give everyone here the illusion that you have no will-power, no mind of your own.

How does that deal with maturity?

And why is it that you're the only one that has these "points"? Chris is against my argument, but no where do I see him agree with what you say. Once, he did say "Finally! Someone posts the good of it". That isn't agreeing. That's using you as a tool for his original argument. To bad you're not bright enough to see that.

I see your side of the argument clearly. You're trying to present the "truth" that the government has force-fed you. To bad that your "truth" is something that only sheep follow. If you read Slylence's thread about how he's sick of pretending, you will clearly see that you've been lied to by America's "magnificant" president.

To bad you're only a sheep.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-24 at 19:07:55
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Hmm.. Of course they are. That's why I never did it. Apparently, you have failed to see the point in which I tried to bring up. Must be worded to intelligently for you.

And I'm not getting maturity into this, so why are you? I'm just trying to prove my point of how you take everything in like a sheep does. Judging by your repetitious forms of argument that aren't thought through much, you give everyone here the illusion that you have no will-power, no mind of your own.

How does that deal with maturity?

And why is it that you're the only one that has these "points"? Chris is against my argument, but no where do I see him agree with what you say. Once, he did say "Finally! Someone posts the good of it". That isn't agreeing. That's using you as a tool for his original argument. To bad you're not bright enough to see that.

I see your side of the argument clearly. You're trying to present the "truth" that the government has force-fed you. To bad that your "truth" is something that only sheep follow. If you read Slylence's thread about how he's sick of pretending, you will clearly see that you've been lied to by America's "magnificant" president.

To bad you're only a sheep.


The maturity comments were implied by you so go figure.

And this is what I mean, I simply disagree with you and you steriotype me as a sheep. You know what? I used to be like you, a conspiracy theorist ( I still am in some cases), I used to believe all the "truths" and "facts" you have already shown to me already. You know what though? I have seen both sides of the issues you and I are talking about. (I've pretty much said this in other threads but they have either gone ignored or barraged by flames).

You see, as a conspiracy theorist (This is a big generalization this time), you are force to see governments as corrupt and evil. They do not care about human life and only about money (I've been there and surprisingly I'm younger than you are). You fail to see other sides, the logical sides. You simply think: "Government, what the f***, nothing they do can benefit people or do good". Yes, they have done bad things in the past and you keep trying to force that well known fact down my throat when I've already stated that I do no deny it, but yet you still go on like a loose cannon.

After looking at both sides of certain issues I have any doubt in, I use logic (Something you think I have none of because of my "sheepiness") to put the pieces together. But do you care? No, just because I have an opinion with simularities to what the US government told its people, I must believe everything they say huh? (Oh what logic you have, you say I have hiltered intelligence and what not but you think like this? Ok, sure, you're the better man in the case of thinking like a one-tracked and closed minded foo'. (Yes I said foo', foo'.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-24 at 19:16:21
And you call me thick headed? I can at least admit defeat when defeat is due. You can't. You insult me because I can see how manipulative ANY form of government is.

Get a life already. Fallacies are not your friend
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-24 at 19:28:21
I insult you? You've insulted me more than I have ever done to anyone. See, you can't debate with my last post. (#41 FYI) And you and Euro like to use "defeat" and "sorry you lose", like this was some sort of war. I try to explain myself so you could actually understand where I'm coming from but you have to bite me in the ass because you think you are superior to me.

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And you call me thick headed? I can at least admit defeat when defeat is due. You can't. You insult me because I can see how manipulative ANY form of government is.

Get a life already. Fallacies are not your friend


I try to put something blatantly obvious but you reject it why? Do you have something to prove or something? This is a forum if you haven't noticed, and unless it's like a major part of your life or something, the is no reason to be so hostile like you are being now.

So what now, do you think I am jealous of you or something? Grow-Up, what's sad to is that I had to say that to someone older than I.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-04-24 at 23:39:37
QUOTE(NuclearRabbit @ Apr 24 2006, 02:10 PM)
definately a pwn kelli.
Thats actually total bullshiz. The left simply uses normal termsthat anyone could guess what it means. A.K.A. "fark You meanie!"

Whereas the Right will use politically correct terms and attacks such as "I believe him to be mentally insane." and "If we were to abort all black children, crime would go down." Things like that.
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lol, and you call me blind! Go to any big name news paper and see how much hate lies there!

QUOTE(Kellimus @ Apr 24 2006, 02:15 PM)
Hmm...  What if I was to say i'm going to kill the president?  What will happen?

I will go straight to prison with no trial by my peers, or even a trial by that matter.

Guess what?  You can't use the argument that you never could do that, because just about 7 years ago, I could!

Uh oh!  I have a question, I was just thinking about you actually, while I loaded a batch of laundry: Have you hit puberty?

Because judging by how you believe everything an authority figure says, you have the mentality of a twelve year old.

Ad Hocs are for the weak minded.
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Techniqually you just said you were are going to kill the President, and are you in Jail? No.

And before the Patriot act if you said you were going to kill the President people would take you seriously on the phone or in public, its no joking matter.

And just think of how many people have stated in public and on their phones that they are going to kill the President, are they all in jail? Nope.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-04-25 at 16:53:31
Oh, but you know what? My governor wanted to install surveillance cameras in mosques. My governor is a republican. He is right-wing. He wants to destroy my privacy and the privacy of other muslims or even of christians and jews who occasionally stroll in.

Does this tell anyone why I don't like right-wingers? If you at all agree with this right-wing nutjob bullshiz, I demand that you also agree to the wiretapping of churches, temples and other places of worship,

Source: http://talkleft.com/new_archives/012364.html , Eagle-Tribune Newspaper
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-04-25 at 17:28:28
Has the word, "compromise", been completely forgotten in politics? If a person is Republican, they don't have to agree with every Republican policy or law. The same applies to the Democratic party. I find that the whole political party thing is just stupid. Why don't we just elect somebody that's completely neutral, or has no personality whatsoever? We wouldn't have all this stupid conflict and would probably get stuff done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-04-25 at 18:03:21
What I find stupid is how when one person is affiliated with one side, he or she automatically thinks the other side is evil and should be purged out of our government because of all the bad qualities they contain while completely overlooking/ignoring the good qualities. It's sad.

Gogo moderate/independent!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-04-25 at 18:46:44
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Apr 25 2006, 12:53 PM)
Oh, but you know what? My governor wanted to install surveillance cameras in mosques. My governor is a republican. He is right-wing. He wants to destroy my privacy and the privacy of other muslims or even of christians and jews who occasionally stroll in.

Does this tell anyone why I don't like right-wingers? If you at all agree with this right-wing nutjob bullshiz, I demand that you also agree to the wiretapping of churches, temples and other places of worship,

Source: http://talkleft.com/new_archives/012364.html , Eagle-Tribune Newspaper
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You have no right to privacy, if ANYONE is from a terrorist state, in these times, comes to America they will be watched. You are immature and fool hearted to think all right wingers think this way. I for one do not agree with the move, but I understand the logic behind it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-25 at 19:10:27
You have no right to privacy because of your god damn PATRIOT ACT! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT!??!?!!?!?!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-04-25 at 19:14:49
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Apr 25 2006, 03:10 PM)
You have no right to privacy because of your god damn PATRIOT ACT!  CAN'T YOU SEE THAT!??!?!!?!?!
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Patriot Act has to do with the right to no unwarrented searchs of your home I believe. There is no right to privacy.
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