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This needs a different name. Almost every question that is asked towards him, he answers to w/ no. The only major relation it really has to vampires, is the having to drink blood part. And that alone, does not make a person a vampire. Hell, even that is inaccurate, because he doesn't HAVE to drink blood to be able to live. It's a semi elastic decision for him. Where as vampires have obsolutely no choice period. Unless they want to die....again.

I don't think vampire is the word the site should be using. This site skews the definition of vampire so much that it bares almost no similarities to the traditional meaning of the word.

I second that. They're more of a blood-fetish group than "vampires". In my opinion, the site owner is either just constantly bored with nothing to do or wants attention.

- Darktica

I wouldn't say that. There's a good chance that there are humans that would drink another's blood. I'm willing to say there's a good chance that some of those people would enjoy the taste of blood. I'm also willing to say they can build up a psychological addiction to it. But, a need... that stirs my doubts.

Waiiit, so because I have a healthy sense of skepticism, as well as a scientific mind, I prevent studies on vampirism from happening. Please explain what you mean, seeing as right now, it sounds most like you're saying that study SHOULDN'T be done, which doesn't really make much sense for one so keen to persuade people that this incredibly strange stuff is true.

Darn.. and letting a vampire drink your blood won't make you an immortal nearly all-powerful mass murderer? Why'd I let that guy in.. [/sarcasm]

I agree with what Beer said. I would think that I would have heard of the condition before, seeing as it would probably have been quite well known, I doubt it exists.

That first topic in your post made me think.

As stated in oblivion, it is a disease called porphyric hemophilia.

Porphyric Hemophilia? That's from Morrowind.

Hemophilia is a genetically inherited bleeding disorder. There are two types of hemophilia: hemophilia A, or clotting factor VIII deficiency, and hemophilia B, or clotting factor IX deficiency. The degree of deficiency varies from mild to severe. About one-third of hemophilia cases occur with no previous family history; this is called sporadic hemophilia. It is assumed that these cases are the result of genetic mutation.

Due to the genetic pattern of inheritance, the disorder generally affects males only. About one third of cases occur with no previous family history. Women with a hemophilic gene are called carriers. Each daughter of a carrier mother has a 50% chance of being a carrier. Each son has a 50% chance of having hemophilia. Carriers are usually, but not always, symptom-free.

Von Willebrand Disease (vWD) is another more common hereditary bleeding disorder. Patients with vWD have diminished production of von Willebrand factor or produce von Willebrand factor that does not function normally. This disorder affects both males and females equally, and the symptoms are usually not as severe as those of a person with hemophilia, but do include bleeding from the nose, mouth or intestinal tract. Von Willebrand disease is probably the most common of the inherited clotting disorders although it is generally the least severe.

Incidence:
The incidence of hemophilia A in the world population is one in ten thousand males. In its severe form, incidence is one in sixteen thousand. There is no known geographical variation in the incidence of either hemophilia A or hemophilia B. It has been calculated that worldwide there are approximately 350,000 people with severe or moderate hemophilia A. Hemophilia B is five times less common than hemophilia A.


(This is taken directly from Hemophilia One)

- Darktica

What im saying is you would need alot of equipment to scientificly study a vampire and see whats diffrent in contrast from some one who is not. And being the fictional hollywood portrayel that so many believe added to the fact theyd call you crazy it would be impossible.

Moose, i feel you have been the most open mind on this topic. Thanks.

-Legacy

Stars, no special equipment would be needed to see if a vampire needed blood. You would need two rooms, a supply of real blood, and a supply of fake blood.
The control "vampire" would be given a normal human diet with all nescessary nutrients, as well as a glass of fake blood each day. The other "vampire" would be given real blood (Pig's blood), as well as the same diet the first is given.
If the one who isnt given real blood gets sick, then it has been indicated that there are indeed some people who require some as of yet undiscovered nutrient in blood.
That really sounds like it would take complex equipment stars. The next time you try to shoot down a scientific suggestion for prooving your beleif, at least consider what you're saying before you attack.

Another thing that bothers me is that all the info seems to come from that one site. Most of the external links are to unrelated medical concepts. Typically, one source = bad argument, unless you're citing Wikipedia or some other highly respected source.

DD&D is a very highly respected source. Its forum is currently at 1567 users strong. Just as if there was information on staredit related to something on SC no one would question it unless they tried it and it didint work. Just because you personally havent heard of it doesnt mean its not a trusted source.



What i specifically meant was finding the cause of vampirism. Yes your method would work, though pigs blood wouldnt be the best option. Most vampires would prefer beef blood if a human donor was not willing. Reasons being that beef blood tastes better and has far less chance of disease.

And i was being quite open, you just misunderstood me and went on the attack.

-Legacy

Vampirism is as any other medical disease a human can have. There are so many criminals who have drinken the blood of there murder victims in the pass.
Vampirism is certainly real.

Look up Elizabeth, Count Bathory very interesting real life account of a woman who killed hundreds of servants in horrible brutal ways and bathed and drank there blood.

S.T.A.R.S Legacy-
You state that the site is a highly regarded resource, but never state who regards it highly. I know that I certainly don't, and if it is indeed the only site about "vampirism", then obviously it cannot be respected by the members of other similar sites. The point of this is not even the respectability of the site, its the number of independent sources. On SEN, we have over 6000 members, about 300-400 of whom visit the site on a daily basis. Now, each one of these people can confirm one another's findings, unlike vague feelings of tiredness or lethargy, whether or not a mapping technique works can be confirmed by anyone owning a copy of starcraft and an editor. Our findings are actual empirical data, the information on the vampirism site, however, is never confirmed. It takes real medical equipment to diagnose some sort of disease or disorder, medical equipment which is in distinct absence from the site.
Essentially, it is entirely illogical to compare SEN's mapping data, which is confirmable, to the site's anecdotes on "vampirism", which are very far from confirmable.


Also;

That quote really sounds like being "open" to me.


Edit: -Kp.ZpfW-PanzerIII
However, unlike "any other medical disease" there are no medically documented cases of vampirism, thats right zero. There is a complete lack of scientific evidence for vampirism, and I can only think of one individual who drank the blood of those he killed, Vlad the impaler. If you can give any evidence to the contrary, either that there is a documented case of vampirism, or that there have been multiple killers who drank their victem's blood, I would be happy to hear it.

Vlad the impaler didn't drink the blood of his victims, he just impaled them with large sticks and put them on display.

And I believe there was a man addicted to animal blood who was held in alcatraz.
And one man from England. Look it up you might find some interesting shiz!

Vlad and others youve mentioned are FICTIONAL and Hollywood portrayed versions of a vampire. Some people are just insane and kill people and drink the blood because of their insanity.

A vampire would not NEED to kill anyone. You can buy blood from a butcher and as long as your sober and willing to pay they have to sell it to you. I already mentioned why beef blood is a safer choice.

Shattered Moose,
I feel it is.....to both our selves futile to argue further with eachother. Im going to step back with a simple you believe what you want to and i will for myself.

-Legacy

Vlad the Impailer is as real as King George the Secound or Adolf Hitler. And if you read, I never said he drank blood! I believe his name was Vlad Dracula after his Father whoose name was something Dracul he was the Crowned Prince of Transilvania during the Ottoman Invasion.

And the other woman I mentioned is really someone you should read about. You might find it interesting. ( Elizabeth Count Bathory )

Opps thought you were replieing to my other post!
But I see your point with the butcher thing and all..

Vlad is portrayed as a vampire in 90% of the stories about him. That was my main point.

And yes its good we can buy things as long as were sober and have money. America is a cool place.

-Legacy

Actually, it all started when a simple old man went to England. He had seen a place not far from Brighton and decided to write a book called dracula which turned into a movie. This then spreaded into other movies and books and people actually started to believe in it. It was gothic however and people visit the "dracula's birthplace" in England everyday. All of this vampirism knowledge is false due to it came from one's mind as a FICTIONAL story.

That is the single most uneducated closed minded state ment. Ever.

People flying came off as a fictional idea but we made it happen. Most of the inventions we have today were thought of as far fetched stories way back when. But Vampirism is a medical condition so let me add there. There are new diseases causing effects that may have been though of as a sign of a witch or such back in time. Now weve proven and disproven things. Vampirism is debated and it isnt scientificly tested therefore its a matter of belief, somewhat.

-Legacy

Whats so hard about believing some one is addicted to blood. There are people addicted to way crazier shiz, that is made of some werid stuff!
( Diharerias all down his leg in outrage! )

Kid, you think i talk uneducatedly? You believe in a fairy tale and probably crying for the day you become one. It was just a guy's imagination when he went to britain and created the book dracula. People started tweaking it to what we have now. Period, said, and done.

if you don't belive in something it doesen't mean it's not true. many things have legends & rumors around them, but that does not proove anything. maybe they will fish out the lochness monster tomorrow & all those sceptics will be out of arguments, but maybe not.