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Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-05-25 at 09:50:56
It's a topic like the "Do you belive in God". It's just a question of belief.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-05-25 at 10:07:21
QUOTE(Rantent @ May 25 2006, 01:42 AM)
I have that exact shirt!
Coincidence, or mysterious powers beyond our knowledge... ermm.gif
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I have ANOTHER clone? crazy.gif
First MillenniumArmy, now Rantent! happy.gif


Back on topic:

Yes, this is purely a question of belief. It cannot be completely proven either way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-25 at 12:37:54
QUOTE(Merrell @ May 24 2006, 12:54 PM)
Human minds can't go 'that' far. It's physically impossible. If you were to of taken chemistry and physics, you would know this kind of stuff is impossible. Your mind is your mind, and it cannot modify ANYTHING externally.

Definately special effects.
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It is possible. Ever heard of people who can tell something exactly before it happens? Coincidence? Yeah, sure. Coincidence if they do it one time. But multiple times? Highly unlikely.

ESP is real. Just some people have it more than others.

QUOTE(Deathawk @ May 24 2006, 01:01 PM)
OH, I SEE IT!

The guy has light coming from his hands...or.. he's holding a flashlight.

Master Roshi must have taught him how to harness his Ki in order to use the Kamehameha wave technique.
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How dare you mock Dragonball! (Mock Dragonball Z all you want, it's lame compared to Dragonball)

Anyways.

Protruding Chi/Ki from your body like that is impossible. But harnessing it into a single point is in fact, not (Between your hands for example) You will not be able to see it, because it's an "Unseen Force" like Gravity is. Chi/Ki is the body's "spiritual energy". You could say that our electrical currents could be Chi/Ki, who knows. It's possible to do what that guy did in that picture, but you WILL NOT see the "energy". In Martial Arts they teach you Chi/Ki techniques to help defend your body from super harm. Ever wondered how those guys can bust cement bricks with their hands or feet? There is your Chi/Ki techniques. The reason they breath like that before they do it, is to help concentrate the Chi/Ki into their fist/foot. The scream they let out, is to give them a visual of the Chi/Ki "screaming" out of their hand, to the bottom of the last brick. Chi cannot fly through the air like DBZ and all that, but can be transfered through objects. If that happens, it then is called Jing.

How do you think Masters of a Martial Art can take such heavy beatings, and can shatter bones with punches? They have learned how to master Chi/Ki and Jing.

QUOTE(Merrell @ May 24 2006, 01:42 PM)
Toothfairy.. that's a complete lie, or your friend was tricking you. It's impossible. It's just another 'fairy tale.' Newtons laws state that for every action there is an opposite equal reaction. For example; playing billiards/pool, hitting the cuestick off of a ball: The stick is moving with a force, it stops in contact of the ball and delivers the force to it. I've read a stupid education science magazine that we're forced to read in Physics, and it talks about X-men and their powers. The guy that can shoot lasers out of his eyes is throughily explained of why he couldn't have those powers. The shots of laser beams would shoot him back at a thousand miles per hour if it were real.

So, what would be the action of the reaction of a glowing light, physically? There isn't one, so it's a complete lie.
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Your example has nothing to do with ESP at all, so why even try to use that argument? If you're going to debunk something, provide proof against it, instead of naming off other laws of the universe.

And as I said before: Protruding Chi/Ki from your body like DBZ is IMPOSSIBLE. But focusing it to a single point is not.

QUOTE(dumbducky @ May 24 2006, 03:35 PM)
Now that we know the picture is fake, I wanna know what your shirt says.
On topic:  Using your mind for anything other than thinking is impossible.  PSI is as likely as us being able to morph into a blob or a peanut..
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No it's not. Ever heard of: Mind Over Matter??

Ever seen someone have a massive amount of pain inflicted to them, but not even cringe? They most likely have the idea that "Pain is an illusion, it is not real". They tell their mind this; Thus, they have no sense of pain because it's an "illusion" to them.

The only way Mind Over Matter works, is if you TRUELY believe the thing you are telling your mind (That's why God "exists" to some people, and doesn't to others)

The human mind is a powerful tool. ANYTHING is possible with it if you can "trick" it into believing it. Ever known you were going to fail a test, but truely believed you wouldn't, and you in fact pass? Mind Over Matter.

QUOTE(Demaris @ May 25 2006, 07:06 AM)

I have ANOTHER clone?  crazy.gif
First MillenniumArmy, now Rantent!  happy.gif
Back on topic:

Yes, this is purely a question of belief. It cannot be completely proven either way.

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I totally agree with you two. I just like to provide my side of the story to make people think (Which everyone will debunk me because: A) They hate me B) They are close-minded C) They are egotistical crack-whores)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-25 at 16:17:27
QUOTE(Kellimus @ May 25 2006, 10:37 AM)
Ever wondered how those guys can bust cement bricks with their hands or feet? 


well actulley, that is a certin way you swing your arm in the air. it does take concentration though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-05-25 at 17:17:02
QUOTE(Toothfariy @ May 25 2006, 02:17 PM)
well actulley, that is a certin way you swing your arm in the air. it does take concentration though.
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I take Kung-fu (Yes, Dema has mystical Kung-fu ownage tongue.gif ) and I've heard stories from the other students of CRAZY stuff our seifu's seifu's seifu (Seifu is cantonese for master) has done. They witnessed him gouge stone with his bare fingers. Explain THAT as a certain way you "hold your arm".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-05-25 at 17:27:55
well im able to split 2 x 4 's with my hand
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-05-25 at 17:35:01
I think it would be unwise to rule out odd effects produced by the brain. We still don't know what a lot of it is for, and evidence apparently suggests that the brain is evolving independently of humans.

Scary stuff. That picture is obviously a fake - just some guy looking like an idiot, holding a torch.
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