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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-08-22 at 21:38:43
Um, there were plenty of Helms Deep [Ltor] maps based on the book and movie, and your one screenshot isn't sure to attract anybody. Also, I haven't ever seen or read Helms Deep, so I can't comment on the subject itself...what I'm trying to say is if you make a Helms Deep map after plenty were already made into crappier versions or stolen, please make it awesome. If not, I've wasted my time and you'll owe me >.>'
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-08-22 at 22:05:48
Hey, the terrain actually looks pretty nice! However, there should be a very large section of space behind the walls of the Hornburg where many of the villagers stayed before the battle, and where the a large archer batallion of elves formed during the battle (in the movies at least). Since your walls are at the top, you're going to have a much too large space for the plain before Helm's Deep (and while that's not my concern, the area in Helm's Deep is).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-08-23 at 13:27:55
lol its Helms Deep In RPG Mode.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-08-23 at 15:31:03
Screenshots look nice, looks like WoodenFire did a good job. It looks way to similar to Seige Wars terrain though. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-08-23 at 16:24:21
QUOTE(urmom @ Aug 23 2006, 03:30 PM)
Screenshots look nice, looks like WoodenFire did a good job.  It looks way to similar to Seige Wars terrain though. tongue.gif
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yea i just looked at em and those walls/terrain looks pretty beastly!

Woodenfire did the terrain? GJ WoodenFire smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Chicken on 2006-08-23 at 18:36:30
No! Woodenfire didnt do s**t to the walls i did them
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-08-23 at 18:37:23
QUOTE(Mr.Chicken @ Aug 23 2006, 06:36 PM)
No! Woodenfire didnt do s**t to the walls i did them
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UGH...dont scare me sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KABOOM on 2006-08-23 at 21:18:15
lol i said the same thing he says "Wooden helped me choose the right tiles and such" but its basically mirrors the hole way so i believe chrisp did it. (and i saw some blockyness yawn.gif so cant be wooden's tongue.gif)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Chicken on 2006-08-23 at 22:22:57
v3 is released i will post screen shots soon
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JoJo. on 2006-08-24 at 00:30:34
I don't think the terrain is the best...but w.e if it works it works..i thought of a great idea for a map heheh...idk if i should make it hmmm...now to get back to subject how will heros function??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ryu on 2006-08-24 at 10:27:40
woudn't the walls be templish, not high dirt? (i could be wrong)... i'm not sure how u are going to implament the "Rpg" in the map but it will be neat to see, i hope u do a gj on the insides of the hornburg for the terrain, and plz do not make the heroes overpowered!! i hate when 1 hero can kill a entire spawn.

are u going to add cut scenes?, just like the important ones that were also shown in the movie?
how are u going to add saruman, considering he was never at helms deep in person?
if u can, add more info to ur map happy.gif

i'll be a tester as well (if its ok), i'm intrested in seeing what this map can become
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Chicken on 2006-08-24 at 15:18:26
Well Basically What i am doing is i'm making the terrain on a different map like 128x128 them i'm going to move it to a 256x256 i will have saruman in his tower and i will have a uruk-hai commander lead the battle

Btw Temple looks to crapy

Yea i'm going to add cut scenes from the movie like i said its an rpg trust me its going to be good.

i will add the testers today i'm going to edit my forums stuff today so be prepared to see better smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tdnfthe1 on 2006-08-24 at 17:56:46
QUOTE(Shocko @ Aug 18 2006, 05:06 PM)
After renaming this map after the movies it is only fair to say you go exactly as it was suppose to be. Meaning no "ooh hes cool" or "well i know that name so hes in".

You must be exactly like it... If your going to off the storyline why not just make it a new name instead of just calling it "Helms Deep [LotR]" get a new name and there you go, you've made a map that is somewhat different from all the other newbish copies of the film / books.
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Wrong, his map and he can do anything he wants with it. Remember you dont have to play it, go make a map that's better yourself... unless of course you can't ermm.gif .

And the lotr helms deep/ RPG coersion idea has been done in alot of maps, just so you know you're not the first to "try it". No1 plays all the stupid remakes cuz every1 opens the map and just goes "OMfg wtf, it's just another wannabe helms deep map! BOOO!" Only die hard fans for your lotr stuff will likely spread it, even if it actually is better. That's just an FYI, im not saying dont make it or it'll suck.

And for a personal opinion on the map, don't freak with trying2 make it accurate to the book or movie, why? Because half the people who will try to play the map won't know anyway, and they'll just care about how much fun they have pwning other people. That's what most maps are missing, "fun". Goodluck on your project.

~Tdnfthe1
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Chicken on 2006-08-24 at 22:00:19
ty* :]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stilth on 2006-08-25 at 05:37:01
looks good, i dunno why everyone esle is bashing you tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-08-25 at 08:00:32
Okay, as I see on the screenshots it's basically the same terrain everywhere, on the walls, the mud/dirt and the high dirt on the walls, which of course should be some kind of castle-ish style, I mean, Helm's Deep is in a mountain, but it isn't a mountain just because it is built in it.

And if you would make an RPG of the whole map, I would actually add some kind of computer Uruk'hai and Saruman's forces instead of letting them to be controlled by players, but that's just me.

Anyways, I don't see any difference in this map compared to any other Helm's Deep map, except of some minor changes, which basically is the potion thingy and the terrain. Well, good luck with whatever will come out from this type of map, I hope it will turn out good, but I don't expect much more.

Surprise me mate.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Chicken on 2006-08-25 at 13:23:07
ok i'm going to lay it down strait and hard this map is of THE HOLE HELMS DEEP not just the battle or w/e it is going to start at edoras and move all through the mountains and get to helms deep then when your there you can explore the area and find new weapons and armor or even potions and stuff.

ty stilth smile.gif <3

idk why everyone is so mean cry.gif

ADDITION:
o ya they build helms deep from the rocky mountains that surround it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TRiGGaMaSTa on 2006-08-26 at 02:34:17
The potions idea sounds neat. Count me in to help you with that. I'd love to help make a system for you. Looks like this could be fun. What will rohan and elves do while waiting for the battle of helms deep?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KABOOM on 2006-08-27 at 23:57:21
well in the movie they show up at the begining of the battle or so dont they? So i say spawn a huge number, make them walk to helms deep get inside and assign them too the walls by preplacing burrowed units and removing them when theyre space is in use:D
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)Excalibur on 2006-08-28 at 08:12:12
Another LOTR map and the same problem: THE ELVES DID NOT COME TO HELMS DEEP. It was only in the movie, which had alot of story line problems. For the love of Tolkien just stop putting elves in Helms maps. PLEASE.

-Le0n
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Chicken on 2006-09-01 at 13:04:57
i got a new v to realease less blocky sure trigger ill add you into the test people
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zeratul_101 on 2006-09-01 at 13:29:40
i thought the Deepening Wall was supposed to be perfectly smooth... your is ... textured.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-09-03 at 14:32:51
QUOTE(Tetrismonkey @ Aug 19 2006, 06:36 PM)
I agree with what a few people said, what makes this map so much better than all the other lame Helms Deeps.

Cant beat  Haldir helms deep  :>
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Version Zergling and all those others suck balls man
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Chicken on 2006-09-03 at 20:21:44
guys i have read over your comments and realized that you guys have nothing to *good* to say about what i am doing hear so basically i don't read any that have well or *its just another helms deep* and if you don't like these types of maps then please post your topic elsewhere

Anyways v4 is going to be finished soon
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tetrismonkey on 2006-09-12 at 01:07:13
Hey man, been awhile since ive posted, but whats going on with the map?? If you released it, i think i have played it then. If not im still up for testing and helping you with the map. Like everyone else has said, this is a heavy burden to try and recreate all of the Helms Deeps. Take you're time with the map and make sure its completeed right, and not rushed like most maps.
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