Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-08-05 at 12:42:30
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2. nope, go test it yourself and gape at how wrong you are
Test the map I made. 50 3/3cracklings vs 100 3/3FullyUpgradedHydras.
I did 3 tests and the lings couldnt even kill all them hydras.
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3. yes negative damage, hydras do 10 damage but to reavers they do about 5.
Negative Damage will heal the unit you attack.
Hydras do 5 damage because of reavers armor and armor upgrade. Thats called damage reduction.
I might test the 10 marine vs 20 hydra soon...
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You got Educated 
Right back at ya. I am not a theorycrafter or a good melee player for nothing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Surtur on 2004-08-05 at 13:09:49
Since hydras are small, they swarm the enemy units.
Very nice for taking out carriers (They'll have all inceptors destroyed in no time)
Hydras work two fold if you have Dark Swarm and devourers to back them up, this will disable the enemy from attacking your hydras and take out most air that comes your way. (Be sure you have enough defilers with enough energy)
Very nice for taking out carriers (They'll have all inceptors destroyed in no time)
Hydras work two fold if you have Dark Swarm and devourers to back them up, this will disable the enemy from attacking your hydras and take out most air that comes your way. (Be sure you have enough defilers with enough energy)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-08-05 at 15:56:52
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Test the map I made. 50 3/3cracklings vs 100 3/3FullyUpgradedHydras.
I did 3 tests and the lings couldnt even kill all them hydras.
Negative Damage will heal the unit you attack.
Hydras do 5 damage because of reavers armor and armor upgrade. Thats called damage reduction.
I might test the 10 marine vs 20 hydra soon...
Right back at ya. I am not a theorycrafter or a good melee player for nothing.
1.You dont have many micro skills
I beat the hydras.2.Go read stragety guide it be saying reavers get a special bonus against hydras specificlly
3.I'll even send ye a replay.
4.You're too mean when you argue with someone.
5.Why are you desperatly trying to prove that massing hydras a plenty is a good idea?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-08-05 at 16:33:37
50 zerglings no matter how much they are upgraded in a normal melee game will NEVER beat 100 hydralisks that are attacking back. it is impossible. even with burrow, it is impossible.
hydralisks do NOT heal reavers. I have no idea what you're talking about negative damage.
10 marines also will never beat 20 hydralisks if they are fighting back.
and i doubt you are a good melee player.
hydralisks do NOT heal reavers. I have no idea what you're talking about negative damage.
10 marines also will never beat 20 hydralisks if they are fighting back.
and i doubt you are a good melee player.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-08-05 at 16:37:11
YEA! ITS TRUE!!!!! Go read stragety guide and blow your mind .
oh and yes, 10 marines can kill 20 hydras even if you just rush and stim.! I would know..
and if you STILL dont get what I meant then.. I command you to read again 50 more times.
After that you can wash my feet and feed me escargot. <--Yuck.
.oh and yes, 10 marines can kill 20 hydras even if you just rush and stim.! I would know..
and if you STILL dont get what I meant then.. I command you to read again 50 more times.
After that you can wash my feet and feed me escargot. <--Yuck.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-08-05 at 17:00:18
I think by negative damage he means weapon type damage vs armour type. I think Hydras have explosive attack, and reavers have the armour that explosive does 50% on.
Back on topic, uhhh. Man, I forgot what I was gunna type, crap.
Back on topic, uhhh. Man, I forgot what I was gunna type, crap.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-08-05 at 17:02:22
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Aug 5 2004, 03:37 PM)
YEA! ITS TRUE!!!!! Go read stragety guide and blow your mind .
oh and yes, 10 marines can kill 20 hydras even if you just rush and stim.! I would know..
and if you STILL dont get what I meant then.. I command you to read again 50 more times. After that you can wash my feet and feed me escargot. <--Yuck.
.oh and yes, 10 marines can kill 20 hydras even if you just rush and stim.! I would know..
and if you STILL dont get what I meant then.. I command you to read again 50 more times.
After that you can wash my feet and feed me escargot. <--Yuck. show quote, provide source
and how would you know? (provide proof)
you're an idiot
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-08-05 at 17:10:02
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I think Hydras have explosive attack, and reavers have the armour that explosive does 50% on.
Reavers are large heavy armored units. Hydras do full damage. There is no damage bonus for either Reavers of Hydras, they do full damage to each other.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-08-05 at 17:42:24
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show quote, provide source
and how would you know? (provide proof)
you're an idiot
and how would you know? (provide proof)
you're an idiot
The stragety guide... costs money.... they wouldn't show it all over the internet and let ppl quote it... AND IM NOT AN IDIOT!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PickleWeezle(U) on 2004-08-05 at 17:47:56
10 Marines vs 20 Hydras, 20 hydras wins easily.
However, if the 10 marines had a couple of medics and you had excellent control... the marines would win. Marine Medic beats Hydras easily (With stim). You'd need great numbers of hydra to beat small amounts of Marine Medic, so the cost:benefit isn't even worth doing. Hydra Lurker works better in this case as the hydras mainly serve a distraction and the lurkers slice them up, but with focusing on the lurkers, the hydras will kill the marines too.
However, if the 10 marines had a couple of medics and you had excellent control... the marines would win. Marine Medic beats Hydras easily (With stim). You'd need great numbers of hydra to beat small amounts of Marine Medic, so the cost:benefit isn't even worth doing. Hydra Lurker works better in this case as the hydras mainly serve a distraction and the lurkers slice them up, but with focusing on the lurkers, the hydras will kill the marines too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2004-08-05 at 18:07:48
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The stragety guide... costs money....
Know where I could get this?? :/
I'm looking for Starcraft Artwork if you don't mind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-08-05 at 19:39:20
Im not sure.. It came with this pack i bought that came with brood war, normal sc, and stragety guides for both. But it has pictures of every unit. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-08-06 at 09:32:40
He got SC Battlechest. It got SC Vanilla, BW, and the 3 strategy guides(Don't know if it brings all 3 but I know it brings at least 1).
I'm not trying to defend hydras, on the contrary I'm trying to tell the truth of the game.
About the 50lingsvs100 hydras. If I would've killed half of the hydras I'd believe you but I only killed like 15, and less than half the hydras were attacking, the others were just standing.
10 Marines vs 20 Hydras is a hydra win. But 10Marines&Couple Medics vs 20hydras it's pretty much a tie, it depends on how you use them.
I'm not trying to defend hydras, on the contrary I'm trying to tell the truth of the game.
About the 50lingsvs100 hydras. If I would've killed half of the hydras I'd believe you but I only killed like 15, and less than half the hydras were attacking, the others were just standing.
10 Marines vs 20 Hydras is a hydra win. But 10Marines&Couple Medics vs 20hydras it's pretty much a tie, it depends on how you use them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-08-06 at 10:24:37
OK OK! You know what? Let's all pretend I didn't say anything... I'm tired at cheese calling me a dumbass on battle net and I'm tired of people going nuts about it.. It's just a freaking unit and I was just trying to prove a mass of hydras isn't a good idea.. LEAVE ME ALONE IMA SCARED OLD LADY.... 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-08-06 at 10:30:52
QUOTE(Ðeathknight @ Aug 5 2004, 05:07 PM)
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Know where I could get this?? :/
I'm looking for Starcraft Artwork if you don't mind.
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The stragety guide... costs money....
Know where I could get this?? :/
I'm looking for Starcraft Artwork if you don't mind.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...936964?v=glance
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...ce&s=books&st=*
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He got SC Battlechest. It got SC Vanilla, BW, and the 3 strategy guides(Don't know if it brings all 3 but I know it brings at least 1).
Nope, doesn't come with the campaign editor (Can you believe this?) strategy guide. Just SC, and SC BW.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-08-06 at 10:38:38
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Aug 6 2004, 09:24 AM)
OK OK! You know what? Let's all pretend I didn't say anything... I'm tired at cheese calling me a dumbass on battle net and I'm tired of people going nuts about it.. It's just a freaking unit and I was just trying to prove a mass of hydras isn't a good idea.. LEAVE ME ALONE IMA SCARED OLD LADY....
you admit you're wrong
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-08-06 at 10:41:43
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you admit you're wrong
Not really, I just gave up on convincing you.Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2004-08-07 at 21:36:22
Well I say TANKS AND GOLS OWN THEM ALL WOO KICK ASS TANKS AND GOLS LIVE ON!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by isak on 2004-08-26 at 13:21:32
because, ofcourse =)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ThinkStandard on 2004-08-28 at 02:03:32
wall of supply depot with a few tanks (sieged) own hydras