Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-17 at 20:53:52
How about making a thread similar to this in the Map-Making/Other Assistance Forum(s)? It could help some people with problems.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-09-17 at 20:58:53
Hurray! Lets all steal this idea make it appear like it was all of SENs idea and completely ignore the fact that it was actually LEGACYWEAPONS idea which moose kept refusing to do! YAY!
Considering the big fuss people were making about map unprotection, and yet you actually have the nerve to launch LW's idea that he was pushing for so hard after he's fired for making a program that you don't approve of. You don't even mention him with a word of credit with the time he spent convincing people it was a great idea. Absolute hypocrites.
I really had respect for some of you. Even though we disagreed on stupid things like protection and unprotection, this was legacyweapon's little baby. You completely stole, and now killed his wiki that he hosts some where else than this corrupted website. I just can't come to believe you people would COMPLAIN about people stealing your ideas from maps and want to protect your maps because of that, yet you completely rip off of someone elses and you have the last 10 posts of people going "YAY GOOD JOB MOOSE YOU ARE MY BEST FRIEND NOW". Absolutely NO ethics with any of you. Good day.
Considering the big fuss people were making about map unprotection, and yet you actually have the nerve to launch LW's idea that he was pushing for so hard after he's fired for making a program that you don't approve of. You don't even mention him with a word of credit with the time he spent convincing people it was a great idea. Absolute hypocrites.
I really had respect for some of you. Even though we disagreed on stupid things like protection and unprotection, this was legacyweapon's little baby. You completely stole, and now killed his wiki that he hosts some where else than this corrupted website. I just can't come to believe you people would COMPLAIN about people stealing your ideas from maps and want to protect your maps because of that, yet you completely rip off of someone elses and you have the last 10 posts of people going "YAY GOOD JOB MOOSE YOU ARE MY BEST FRIEND NOW". Absolutely NO ethics with any of you. Good day.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-17 at 21:04:04
Maybe Moose will add a little disclaimer like this.
Idea ripped off of LegacyWeapon.
But I probably wouldn't because (U) doesn't need the only Wiki managed by their own friends/members.
Idea ripped off of LegacyWeapon.
But I probably wouldn't because (U) doesn't need the only Wiki managed by their own friends/members.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-09-17 at 21:06:02
QUOTE(xMCx @ Sep 17 2006, 09:03 PM)
Maybe Moose will add a little disclaimer like this.
Idea ripped off of LegacyWeapon.
But I probably wouldn't because (U) doesn't need the only Wiki managed by their own friends/members.
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Idea ripped off of LegacyWeapon.
But I probably wouldn't because (U) doesn't need the only Wiki managed by their own friends/members.
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omfg haha be my friend u so funny man
I guess your maps don't need to be only managed by you, it should be stolen and used by everyone without credits! Just like the issue here!
Besides, if LW doesn't have a wiki, what else is he going to work on? Uh huh.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-09-17 at 21:07:55
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Hurray! Lets all steal this idea make it appear like it was all of SENs idea and completely ignore the fact that it was actually LEGACYWEAPONS idea which moose kept refusing to do! YAY!
Entirely wrong. First, it wasn't Legacy's idea. The farthest I can trace it back to was my idea or Shmidley's. I suggested a wiki months ago. I tried to set up a wiki months ago.
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Considering the big fuss people were making about map unprotection, and yet you actually have the nerve to launch LW's idea that he was pushing for so hard after he's fired for making a program that you don't approve of.
Legacy's idea is open source mapping. Please explain how a wiki even comes close to open source. Free knowledge is not open source.
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You don't even mention him with a word of credit with the time he spent convincing people it was a great idea. Absolute hypocrites.
What credit would he get? Certainly not the amount of time he spent convincing people it was a good idea since it had been agreed long ago that the tutorial should be a wiki.
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You completely stole, and now killed his wiki that he hosts some where else than this corrupted website.
His wiki was already dead. No updates. No people. Why don't you actually do some research before jumping to these ridiculous conclusions.
The more I read your posts, the more I find you really have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to be looking at the surface of events and not all the way down to the source. Look at everything that's happened; research some stuff. Find some connections. Until then, stop complaining.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-09-17 at 21:09:10
Talk to the hand, cheeze.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-09-17 at 21:10:23
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Sep 17 2006, 08:08 PM)
Talk to the hand, cheeze.
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I'm not the one who is complaining. If you want to ignore me, fine. But if you're going to do that, I don't see why anyone should listen to you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-17 at 21:14:53
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omfg haha be my friend u so funny man
Ok, I'll be your friend.
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Besides, if LW doesn't have a wiki, what else is he going to work on? Uh huh.
I think he is working on getting Clan Activity up. Oh wait, he hasn't got to that yet.
However, you seem to meet the standards of elitism and inactivity, so why don't you join (U) Yoshi Da Sniper? Oh wait, you already did.
Last time I checked you hardly ever use SEN, so naturally you wouldn't know about stuff as well.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falkoner on 2006-09-17 at 21:23:41
The code is annoying, can you just add things? or do you HAVE to edit already made pages??? 
ADDITION:
xMCx, you are trying to get on peoples side, just stop, it looks very stupid, first this:
Then you top it all off by suddenly turning on him, like so:
Just cracks me up that you are trying to be on 2 sides at once...
ADDITION:
xMCx, you are trying to get on peoples side, just stop, it looks very stupid, first this:
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Maybe Moose will add a little disclaimer like this.
Idea ripped off of LegacyWeapon.
But I probably wouldn't because (U) doesn't need the only Wiki managed by their own friends/members
Idea ripped off of LegacyWeapon.
But I probably wouldn't because (U) doesn't need the only Wiki managed by their own friends/members
Then you top it all off by suddenly turning on him, like so:
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omfg haha be my friend u so funny man
Ok, I'll be your friend.
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Besides, if LW doesn't have a wiki, what else is he going to work on? Uh huh.
I think he is working on getting Clan Activity up. Oh wait, he hasn't got to that yet.
However, you seem to meet the standards of elitism, so why don't you join (U) Yoshi Da Sniper? Oh wait, you already did.
Last time I checked you hardly ever use SEN, so naturally you wouldn't know about stuff as well.
Ok, I'll be your friend.
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Besides, if LW doesn't have a wiki, what else is he going to work on? Uh huh.
I think he is working on getting Clan Activity up. Oh wait, he hasn't got to that yet.
However, you seem to meet the standards of elitism, so why don't you join (U) Yoshi Da Sniper? Oh wait, you already did.
Last time I checked you hardly ever use SEN, so naturally you wouldn't know about stuff as well.
Just cracks me up that you are trying to be on 2 sides at once...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-09-17 at 21:24:37
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Sep 17 2006, 09:10 PM)
I'm not the one who is complaining. If you want to ignore me, fine. But if you're going to do that, I don't see why anyone should listen to you.
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QUOTE(xMCx @ Sep 17 2006, 09:14 PM)
Ok, I'll be your friend.
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QUOTE(xMCx @ Sep 17 2006, 09:14 PM)
I think he is working on getting Clan Activity up. Oh wait, he hasn't got to that yet.
However, you seem to meet the standards of elitism and inactivity, so why don't you join (U) Yoshi Da Sniper? Oh wait, you already did.
Because the internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS.However, you seem to meet the standards of elitism and inactivity, so why don't you join (U) Yoshi Da Sniper? Oh wait, you already did.
QUOTE(xMCx @ Sep 17 2006, 09:14 PM)
Last time I checked you hardly ever use SEN, so naturally you wouldn't know about stuff as well.
I guess you're right in that sense. I'm not really using the domain anymore, maybe I should just junk it?Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-17 at 21:24:48
I'm on noones side but my own. That is the only way you can truly be neutral.
Sure, go ahead. I already saved things I need in a notepad. May I do the honors?
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I guess you're right in that sense. I'm not really using the domain anymore, maybe I should just junk it?
Sure, go ahead. I already saved things I need in a notepad. May I do the honors?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falkoner on 2006-09-17 at 21:25:29
meh...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-09-17 at 21:28:33
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Sep 17 2006, 08:24 PM)
I'm not really using the domain anymore, maybe I should just junk it?
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Thanks Mike, the awesomeness of that comeback made my day.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-09-17 at 21:28:58
QUOTE(xMCx @ Sep 17 2006, 09:24 PM)
Sure, go ahead. I already saved things I need in a notepad. May I do the honors?
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But where would people go to spam and be emo?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-17 at 21:30:25
Your Clan (U)'s Wiki? Maybe Latova?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-09-17 at 21:32:21
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But where would people go to spam and be emo?
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VampireFreaks.com and/or MySpace
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Your Clan (U)'s Wiki? Maybe Latova?
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Big man, threatening spamming his business site.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falkoner on 2006-09-17 at 21:32:57
I think we are getting slightly 
I am with tuxedo templar, I do not like the idea of a wiki, it is annoying and doesn't have the nice SEN look, all they would need to do is make the Tutorial database easier to edit and it would work just as well if not better.
I am with tuxedo templar, I do not like the idea of a wiki, it is annoying and doesn't have the nice SEN look, all they would need to do is make the Tutorial database easier to edit and it would work just as well if not better.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-09-17 at 21:33:13
QUOTE(Syphon(MM) @ Sep 17 2006, 09:31 PM)
Big man, threatening spamming his business site.
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Would you expect anything less from people without ethics?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-09-17 at 21:33:55
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Big man, threatening spamming his business site.
He asked where people would go. I am singular.
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1. (used with a singular or plural verb) a system of moral principles: the ethics of a culture.
2. the rules of conduct recognized in respect to a particular class of human actions or a particular group, culture, etc.: medical ethics; Christian ethics.
3. moral principles, as of an individual: His ethics forbade betrayal of a confidence.
4. (usually used with a singular verb) that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions.
2. the rules of conduct recognized in respect to a particular class of human actions or a particular group, culture, etc.: medical ethics; Christian ethics.
3. moral principles, as of an individual: His ethics forbade betrayal of a confidence.
4. (usually used with a singular verb) that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions.
Which definition did you mean Yoshi Da Sniper? How is ethics related to a Computer gaming site?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-09-17 at 21:37:53
Hey, that's true. LW didn't get credit, and he should have for at least hosting the wiki. However, I know a lot of people had been suggesting getting the wiki originally anyway. Or you could be like me and not really care about unprotection or the wiki! Hurray!
Still guys, Mike has a point. It was more than a little hypocritical, so Moose, you should at least consider changing the post to give LW credit.
Wait, what the Hell?! Dude, I just thought of something, and Moose created an entirely separate wiki? That is low, though understandable in a way. Stupid "politics." Bah. Just bah.
Still guys, Mike has a point. It was more than a little hypocritical, so Moose, you should at least consider changing the post to give LW credit.
Wait, what the Hell?! Dude, I just thought of something, and Moose created an entirely separate wiki? That is low, though understandable in a way. Stupid "politics." Bah. Just bah.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kusion on 2006-09-17 at 21:37:55
I'd do other things because I have a life. Yay.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-09-17 at 21:40:07
Christ, Moose even copied the first thread's post. I thought something looked familiar. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-09-17 at 21:41:47
the whole clan (U) site was down for a while right? or was that just me?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Eskimo Bob on 2006-09-17 at 21:43:15
I dont even like wiki's
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2006-09-17 at 21:43:48
QUOTE(Felagund @ Sep 17 2006, 09:37 PM)
Hey, that's true. LW didn't get credit, and he should have for at least hosting the wiki. However, I know a lot of people had been suggesting getting the wiki originally anyway. Or you could be like me and not really care about unprotection or the wiki! Hurray!
Still guys, Mike has a point. It was more than a little hypocritical, so Moose, you should at least consider changing the post to give LW credit.
Wait, what the Hell?! Dude, I just thought of something, and Moose created an entirely separate wiki? That is low, though understandable in a way. Stupid "politics." Bah. Just bah.
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Still guys, Mike has a point. It was more than a little hypocritical, so Moose, you should at least consider changing the post to give LW credit.
Wait, what the Hell?! Dude, I just thought of something, and Moose created an entirely separate wiki? That is low, though understandable in a way. Stupid "politics." Bah. Just bah.
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Maybe it wasn't LW's idea, but I know how hard he pushed for it. He even got me to try convincing moose to do it, thats how dedicated he was to the project. Right until the day he was fired, he kept pushing for it.
It seems to me that the only reason this wiki exists is to undermind what LW wanted. It doesn't matter anymore if the wiki gets deleted or LW gets credited (actually my point was he should of been running it). The damage is done.
It is very low, not in a political way, but in an ethical way. For a site that encourages people not to steal from each other, its just plain bad. I've made my mistakes, but one thing is always the same, I stand firm on my morales.
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Which definition did you mean Yoshi Da Sniper? How is ethics related to a Computer gaming site?
Ethics are what drive humanity. Ethics are what prevents me from opening all your maps and replacing your name with my own. Ethics are what stops me from destroying the domain. Ethics are what programmers use to credit one another. Ethics is related to the internet, not to this website.