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Quartering. Whee! . I think even Moose doesn't have that kind of control, though. He'd be bannz0r3d by the government.

Moose is the government.
On a more serious note, I'm all for a "gallows" thread, although the idea of public, live executions does have a certain...deliciousness to it--just not sure how it would get worked into the site.

I think its a great idea because it fills people in on what happened to certain members. For example, I thought Nuclear just gradually left until I found out a month ago that he was banned. I still have no idea why.

In this case it would help people like me.

^Exactly. Some forums I've been to will just ban a member and forbid discussion about that person, I guess in order to forget them as quickly as possible, or to make the forum look more in control than it really is. Sometimes that just seems like concealing evidence. It might really matter to someone. I understand that some things just aren't the public's business, but a log of bannings with a brief, factual explanation of why should suffice.

I think the people should be told WHO, WHEN and FOR WHAT got banned. It will serve a good example of what should not be done.

I guess while I'm at it, why was Nuclear banned? The last time I remember seeing NR is when he pulled the fake death thing. Was it becasue of that?

And why devilesk, for that matter? Was it the hacking thing or something else?


God I really need to be updated on my bans![/campaign_for_ban_list]

NR was banned for the death drama. Devilesk was banned for spreading OSMAP (if I remember correctly) and for acting like an idiot.

NR was banned for faking his death and some flaming that added to his warn log. Devilesk got banned for some warns, and I think he is still banned for being friends with the hacker.

Wrong, devilesk was banned for being a complete idiot. He was gone long before the hack attempts.

Well there ya go. There's a perfect reason for letting everyone know in official announcements. It will help get the facts straight.

Thanks for the update, DEAD and Gamma.

Are bans ever removed? Also, are they ever life sentences with no forgiving? Will all people be forgiven in Senv5?

Think of it if every person on earth was relocated to Mars. Would the serial killers become free men? Or would they be put on a seperate shuttle and launched toward the rapidly expanding orb of fiery doom that is the sun?

Sometimes I feel nice and unban people. It really depends on what was done.

Well, this might give people what they want. Some people would come and get banned just to get attention, so I don't think this is absolutely necessary. This could also create a ruckus if the banned one has a group of friends on here...

So they get what they want when they get banned. What do we care? As long as they don't bother us. And about the 'group of friends', the person who got banned knew about this policy, their problem. Friends or no friends wouldn't change a thing.

You simply would not have to read it.

Well I was figuring that Moose was talking about the banning of slightly more prominent members. If someone named FL4M3R5000 signs up just to spam and flame, then they won't be getting a spot. But in the cases of nuclearrabbit, kellimus, Chris, etc., a thread like this would serve as an easy way for newer members to find out who people are refering to if those people are ever brought up without a bunch of off topic posts within other threads.

There is no need to publisize the moderation actions that happen on these forums.

You didn't see any of us publically warning and suspending people, mostly nobody noticed and it didn't create any more drama.

Your reason for this is logical, making sure other people take notice that bans do happen for whatever reason. But in the end, it is contradictory, you want a better community, a better place, not everyone is following the Staff, they will disagree with you, they will flame you, they will cause unwanted drama. Just let it slip away. If you need people to actually see a ban to turn for the better, then there is something else wrong in the first place.

How about ban notes for regulars on up?

I agree with BeeR_KeG: there is no need to publicise moderation actions on these forums.

I think that it is right to keep warn logs private, and in the same way it is right not to humiliate people who have been banned, even if they have been total fools. At any rate, members are probably more likely to view any "public" bannings more as entertainment than as a deterrent.

If you do choose to make information on why people have been banned publicly available, I'd ask for that kind of information not to be "flaunted" - not posted in news, or any discussion thread allowed. A better place would be a locked topic in FAQ, or even in an "Other" forum. If people wish to express opinions, they can do so individually via PMs rather than participating in a mob attack in an angry discussion thread.


If you mean that only regulars+ can access information about banned members, I don't see why you'd want that. Being a regular only means that you're active, not that you're necessarily any more mature or anything.

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If you want to make moderation actions more visible, I would suggest that moderators give their "verbal warnings" in threads more often, rather than by PMs. This already happens to an extent, but it still might be a less risky alternative to public denunciations.

Then maybe not so blatant showing of who was banned, maybe a tiny window at the bottom saying 'Latest Member Banned' or something like that? It gets the job done and is a tad more humane, hopefully satisfies everyone.