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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-10-29 at 00:53:40
Halo fanbags have been owned.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PearS on 2004-10-29 at 01:01:09
I haven't played metroid prime but in super metroid, i don't recall any of the bugs using plasma. So unless they do in prime....i think it would pwn her
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red-X on 2004-10-29 at 12:20:06
Samus may be able to fall for hundreds of meter and not be able to get hurt, but the gravity in the metroid games is terrible. For one thing the farther you fall the faster you fall. Samus has never done this once. And a her quarter ton suit compared to master chief's 2 ton armor (yes from the "poorly written books by idiots"). I dhavent heard anwhere in the game though saying that her armor is a quarter ton so that must have also come from an outside source. And if you recall there is a type of GRASS that burns Samus...grass people... Plus metroid prime was quite possibly the easiest boss from any game in history. I can understand why She was able to beet it. I beet that ugly son of a censored.gif on my first try.Ridley is as well. Serveral people will say that he is hard to beet. Bull. Just shoot at him! If your locked on you will hit him. The ontly time you will miss is when he is flying a mile away from you. Whenever he opens his mout, load him up with plasma, easy as that. However Hunters on the other hand, will most likely kill you on your first try.

ADDITION: And another thing...If Samus is so great, why does she have to 'kill' Ripley so many times...The only time MC has to kill his enemies several times would be when the Flood spring back to life and that can only happen once per Flood unit. And she is a bounty hunter. Bounty hunters catch outlaws for money. Samus has never gotten a single dime nor has she returned with the head of an enemy for that money. Master Chief lives up to his title. He is a Master Chief...tadaa.


Master Chief manages to survive a crash landing on an alien structure, make his way through an enemy battleship to rescue Captain Keyes, Walk through layer upon layer of corridors infested with flood that have the potential to infect him as well, make his way back to the crashed Pillar of Autumn which includes going back to Covenant Battleship that now is a Flood infected warzone, stroll through a Covenant and Flood warzone aboard the Autumn, overload the ships reactor core, drive to the launch bay, and make his escape while Halo blows up behind him. His only assistance comes from some marines that for some reason cant see the sword running at them, that kill each other with grenades, and that wheneever thaty have the chance they get scooped up in a dropship. Plus his AI Cortana (I gotta get me one of those smile.gif ) who has the amazing ability to tell him where to go. Does Samus not have a map system that tells her where she needs to go?

Put them 1on1 in Blood Gultch, Hang em High, or some Chozo place and Master Chief would still win. Why? Motion Tracker. He hides behind a wall, which for some reason Samus has a hard time looking through with her x-ray and thermal visor, and as she approaches he Melee attackes her, sticks a plasma grenade in her face, and loads her up with a rocket all before dinner time.

I don't care who she is a rocket, grenade and a melee attck to the back of the head would probably do some nice damage.

Smaus has a motion tracker too, but it is hardly accurate. Plus from room to room her tracker has to reload the data, with just that one second when she doesnt ahve that tracker active, Chief has already done all he has to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-10-29 at 12:58:14
Samus > Master Cheif

kk gg no re
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-10-29 at 14:26:28
And if he waits to ambush her, then all she has to do is go into ball mode, plant a powerbomb, scuttle back, if he decides to come around, then she can screw attack into him, and feed him charged plasma from behind, supposing getting slammed into by a quarter-ton(okay, this is as unnofficial as the books, but I base it on what I see, the suit looks like it might be 500 pounds, while as MC's suit... 4000 pounds? I HIGHLY doubt that) suit of metal, with extremely high metal coursing through it, then feed him a charged plasma shot into his back, or his side if he turns fast enough.
Otherwise, she can just go back to ball mode, and keep placing Powerbombs, until the MC runs away, until the MC dies, or until he decides to charge, in which case, screw attack, charge shot, if that doesn't finish him, then another screw attack should.

If he was standing just around the corner so he's standing just to her side, then when he fires his rocket, it'll also kill him, making Samus victor.


As for Hunters to MEtroid Prime:
Again, I've never beaten Metroid Prime, and a Hunter killing someone the first time, well, a Hunter you face as a newb. Also, Hunters are weak-ass, once you know how to beat them. Then, they're probably easier then Metroid Prime: dance around, fire a shot in the orange.
Metroid Prime, you face at the end of the game, when you've already played through (nearly)the entire game.

Also, Samus can beat the Mother brain, or the weird Metroid thing at the end of Metroid Fusion, and everything else she has to kil to reach them, with nothing but:
1/20 or 1/12 of her max HP capacity
1/10 of her max Missile Capacity(I don't remember how much max is, but I think it's around 150).

If you had 5% Health/Shield, then I seriously doubt that you could beat Halo.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-10-29 at 18:23:01
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Coolers in his suit allowing him to withstand lava?
That... just doesn't make sense. I don't see how you could make a cooling device that allows you to withstand WATERTHIN ROCK.
Read the books? The books are written by  ing stupid authors, and should never have been labeled 'official'. Uber shielding? COME ON. It's weak as hell. Fall from, maybe, 15 feet up and it's obliterated. With Samus, she can fall from over a HUNDRED, YARDS in the air and suffer NO damage.
Okay, suppose you can argue that the reason he runs so slow in game is because he's conserving energy, and his suit is so damn heavy.
Well, Samus can run at such dashing speeds as to obliterate rock walls without any slowdown, and sustain the rate for as long as she wants. And compare their armor; hers is a lot bigger.

The lava might damage the suits outer shell, but the cooling jel stuff in his suit would stop him from burning. Also, Samus is hurt from lava too.

Samus can only fall that far without getting hurt because the game programmers are too damn lazy to put a few lines of code it that would do that. Halo is much more realistic.

Actually, MC can run faster and longer. He's been genetically modified (Even says in the manual, I believe) so he can run for almost ever, has unbrakeable bones, and alot more power than any human. His suit triples his already incredible speed and strength. He could crush Samus with one finger. Just a flick of the finger, and off goes her head. Just to be funny, he could do it with his middle finger.

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And if he waits to ambush her, then all she has to do is go into ball mode, plant a powerbomb, scuttle back, if he decides to come around, then she can screw attack into him, and feed him charged plasma from behind, supposing getting slammed into by a quarter-ton(okay, this is as unnofficial as the books, but I base it on what I see, the suit looks like it might be 500 pounds, while as MC's suit... 4000 pounds? I HIGHLY doubt that) suit of metal, with extremely high metal coursing through it, then feed him a charged plasma shot into his back, or his side if he turns fast enough.
Otherwise, she can just go back to ball mode, and keep placing Powerbombs, until the MC runs away, until the MC dies, or until he decides to charge, in which case, screw attack, charge shot, if that doesn't finish him, then another screw attack should.

Master chiefs suit is much better than Samuses. If Samus were n it, it would move so fast for her that it'd break her bones.
Also, Master Chief has MUCH better reactions. More than 10 times the normal humans (13 miliseconds is the average human, with adrenalin pumping its like 7-9 So his would be like 1.3 miliseconds.) Thats fast enought to see the plasma shot of samus, and jump out of the way. So in reality, Samus couldn't hit him.
Also, all your post shows is that Samus is a weiner. She turns into a ball and runs away at any sign of danger.

Master Chief would win so bad, its not even funny. GG, or rather, BG.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2004-10-29 at 19:00:43
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Halo is much more realistic


Halo 2 you can dual wield weapons. Have you ever held a gun? Rather 2? and shooting them both. It's f*cking hard. You would proably start shooting up and break your teeth,
Don't start the "realistic" bullsh*t. The programemrs weren't lazy Samus is that strong.

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cooling jel stuff in his suit would stop him from burning

So instead he would have this huge think layer of rock around him, yeah that's great

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Actually, MC can run faster and longer. He's been genetically modified

Also a cover up for the people who say the game should be so "realistic" that after running a long time he should rest. It's like that with every game (exception of GTA)
So that's a huge crock of sh*t unless you read that in "the fabulos books"

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has unbrakeable bones

So why does it hurt when he jumps off a huge cliff? "Pwned"

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Just a flick of the finger, and off goes her head

"Sir we have a huge Halo fanatic here..."
"What's the problem here"
"Well he thinks everything is lower then Halo. Meaning if you don't have Halo then you are lower then him"
"That censored.gif , we should kill em"

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If Samus were n it, it would move so fast for her that it'd break her bones.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The suit itself IS NOT A PERSON. It's an object that only moves when something moves it. So really nothing would happen. Master Cheif could be faster but the suit itself is not fast at all, maybe flexible and light but other then that it won't break anyones bones.

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13 millseconds is the average human with adrelin pumping it's 7-9 so his is like 1.3

LOL Millseconds really do count... In 1 millseond. You can't blink that fast. Another 5 millseconds isn't going to do much. Also that's fast enough to see her shoot the gun, yeah great but he could be turning the other way. A bullet moves 2,500 feet per second... Plasma is proably a little faster since it's not really a soild, more of a liqud, so that reaction time wouldn't do much

My highlighter thing isn't working...
something like "Samus is a weinier" Hmm, whats better being dead, or alive? It's a "reaction" she rather be alive then dead. She can kick ass by the way she can take on 10 enemies at once smile.gif 10 Stronger enimes that is. Not stupid Aliens who die in 5 hits with a machine gun (Around 3 seconds to kill one)

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Master Cheif would win so badly it's not even funny


Your so full of yourself it's not even funny. TAKE A SEAT
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-10-29 at 19:20:32
Masta cheif...he has very good aiming and his suit rules and if he smashes samus in the back with the assaulkt rifle samus would die
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red-X on 2004-10-29 at 21:32:27
I'm sorry Shinobooette but just because you die like that in Halo doesn't mean it will work with Samus. Wishful thinking though.

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Halo 2 you can dual wield weapons. Have you ever held a gun? Rather 2? and shooting them both. It's f*cking hard. You would proably start shooting up and break your teeth,


Yes its it hard. FOR US. Master Chief is a genetically enhanced "supersoldier." I think someone trained from childhood to be a soldier just to fight the covenant would be able to. Plus the suit itself reduces the kickback and gives him much of his strength.

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Also a cover up for the people who say the game should be so "realistic" that after running a long time he should rest. It's like that with every game (exception of GTA)


yes but like you said this is in all games except GTA so don't pin it against Halo, at least there IS gravity damage. I don't care who you are or what your wearing, a 100 yard fall would hurt. Plus in Metroid Prime, very 1st scene, Samus leaps out of her ship in space onto a Pirate Ship. Wouldn't she just float away? hence the name ZERO gravity... So yes halo is more realistic.

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If Samus were n it, it would move so fast for her that it'd break her bones.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The suit itself IS NOT A PERSON. It's an object that only moves when something moves it. So really nothing would happen. Master Cheif could be faster but the suit itself is not fast at all, maybe flexible and light but other then that it won't break anyones bones.


This is based on the book known as Halo: The Fall of Reach where the MJOLNIR armor that MC is in, is being tested. A marine puts it on, moves his arm just an inch and the power of the suit reacts in such a way that his arm ends up blowing off. Power? Yes I'm not basing my argument on that. I'm only clarifying.

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So why does it hurt when he jumps off a huge cliff? "Pwned"

Yes it hurts. Which is 1 reason why Halo is More realistic. And as mentioned above Samus would too if it were realistic and she jumped off a
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And if he waits to ambush her, then all she has to do is go into ball mode, plant a powerbomb, scuttle back, if he decides to come around, then she can screw attack into him, and feed him charged plasma from behind, supposing getting slammed into by a quarter-ton(okay, this is as unnofficial as the books, but I base it on what I see, the suit looks like it might be 500 pounds, while as MC's suit... 4000 pounds? I HIGHLY doubt that) suit of metal, with extremely high metal coursing through it, then feed him a charged plasma shot into his back, or his side if he turns fast enough.
Otherwise, she can just go back to ball mode, and keep placing Powerbombs, until the MC runs away, until the MC dies, or until he decides to charge, in which case, screw attack, charge shot, if that doesn't finish him, then another screw attack should.


You make it sound like MC is just gonna stand there and get pelted by Samus. How do Samus' opponents come out from her screw attack? FACING UP. And after her attack she is immobile until she hits the ground (unless you count floating to the side a little) but her opponents are not. Chief has the best opportunity to counterattack more now than ever in the history of all battles.

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Just a flick of the finger, and off goes her head

I'm all for the Chief, but you must consider that Samus has a power suit of her own.

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She can kick ass by the way she can take on 10 enemies at onceĀ  10 Stronger enimes that is

Since when are beetles stronger than an Elite or a Hunter? or a bat that dies in ONE hit while exploding and killing the other bats around it. (sounds like a flood infection form to me) And why is it that most of her so called AI enemies float or walk around waiting to get shot? They are more of a hurdle to a track athlete then an enemy.

As for her morph ball: its not as fast as some people make it to sound. It takes at least 3 seconds to fully charge the speed boost (seconds where she is a target) Plus, have you ever actually used the Morph Ball to attack your opponent unless that "opponent" is a lizard crawling around a magnetic track? I have never seen Samus attack a metroid with it unless she cant kill the slow jellyfish fast enough and it ends up attatched to her.

Two more reasons chief would win:
1) She has huge targets on her shoulders that are just screaming 'Shoot here! Shoot here!'
2) Her orange suit makes her stand out like a guy in the woods during hunting season. Master Chiefs green suit allows him to better blend in with grass, leaves, shadows, and virtually anything else besides a bright colored rock or building and a room completely orange where Samus would have an advantage beyond all reason. Yes she has her visors, so what if hes in a building or behind a rock, she can't seem to see through them. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UnholySentinel on 2004-10-29 at 22:59:53
I think its a pretty even fight actually.

Master chief has a suit that makes him be able to jump high, run faster, and amplifies movement and strength tendfold. It also helps that those suits are based on a concept of thought-action. I think therefore it does. Plus cortana doesnt hurt the picture at all. External virus/hack link with her skill level, and since samus has no real protection and her suit is all electronics, well, shes gone. If cortana can hack covenant on a dime, samus' suit should be easy.

While samus has the gear. period. no debate. no conflict. she is hooked up!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-10-29 at 23:07:33
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So why does it hurt when he jumps off a huge cliff? "Pwned"

I said they are unbrakeable. His legs don't break when he falls off a cliff do they? PWNED!
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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The suit itself IS NOT A PERSON. It's an object that only moves when something moves it. So really nothing would happen. Master Cheif could be faster but the suit itself is not fast at all, maybe flexible and light but other then that it won't break anyones bones.

Cabled Ligature+Servos= Much stronger thing. His suit has alot of them. The stronger something is, the faster it can do things. Since his suit like quadruples his strength, that means like kicking a soccerball four times as hard. Sure it'd be powerful, but the syntrifical force would just rip your joints apart. Augmentations in the Master Chief stop that from happening. Samus doesn't have those. Pwned.
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Halo 2 you can dual wield weapons. Have you ever held a gun? Rather 2? and shooting them both. It's f*cking hard. You would proably start shooting up and break your teeth,
Don't start the "realistic" bullsh*t. The programemrs weren't lazy Samus is that strong.

You can only duel wield PISTOL WEAPONS. People all the time use double pistols. THe SMGs he uses are pistols. You can have to at once. Not rifles, but pistols. Plus he has alot more strength than us. He could probably do it with rifles anyways. Pwned.
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LOL Millseconds really do count... In 1 millseond. You can't blink that fast. Another 5 millseconds isn't going to do much. Also that's fast enough to see her shoot the gun, yeah great but he could be turning the other way. A bullet moves 2,500 feet per second... Plasma is proably a little faster since it's not really a soild, more of a liqud, so that reaction time wouldn't do much

Last time I checked, the plasma on Metroid Prime doesn't move 2500Ft per second. More like 10 a second.
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10 Stronger enimes that is. Not stupid Aliens who die in 5 hits with a machine gun (Around 3 seconds to kill one)

BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Man, your so funny. guess someone sucks so much he has to play easy. LEGENDARY is the mode thats supposed to be like in the movie. Where a grunt can fickin kill you in a few shots and it takes you a full clip to kill one. Play, you'll suck biggrin.gif
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Your so full of yourself it's not even funny. TAKE A SEAT

No, I think you should take a seat. Your gunna get schooled.
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I'm sorry Shinobooette but just because you die like that in Halo doesn't mean it will work with Samus. Wishful thinking though.

Actually, that might work. It breaks their back, so, yeah, it might.
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Yes she has her visors, so what if hes in a building or behind a rock, she can't seem to see through them.

Plus the cooling jel would mask his heat signature. This brings up another point.
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So instead he would have this huge think layer of rock around him, yeah that's great

Listen, it keeps HIM cool, not the things around him. His suit would get somewhat damaged, but he wouldn't, cause the jel stops him from being burnt to a black Master Chief Cookie.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UnholySentinel on 2004-10-29 at 23:23:47
that has to be the winning post on this thread. I think we just need acknowledge master chief as the winner, buy halo 2, and bow to the schmeeps
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-10-30 at 20:21:43
I censored.gif ING FINALLY GET TO POST THIS! IT WOULDNT LEMME POST BEFORE AGGGHHH
Anyway...
Copy N Paste ownage!




It's not a winning post until someone is reasonably defeated and has nothing to say that hasn't been countered. Otherwise my first long post would have been a 'winning' post.
Oh, and for all of you who say that the MC can run at "56 kph" according to the book, take a look at this page:
http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/randomstats.html
The MC runs at 50 meters in 7.27 seconds. I can EASILY sprint faster than that.
And don't say "well he can run like that for a long time", because I'm a fat, short 13 year old who has leg pains most of the time. I bet that some of the peoplehere at SEN could run faster than that slow-ass!
Also, it says his maximum jump distance is 7.75 meters. Pretty damn far. According to the book, he's 2 meters tall. Samus, with a running start of, maybe, 1 second can jump more like 5 times her own height, though probably more, I was too high in the air to see the ground. Now, according to Halo FoR, he jumps 3 meters straight up. Samus can jump several times her own height, more like 8 meters.
Anyways, back to the countering and decountering and what not.

The lava might damage the suits outer shell, but the cooling jel stuff in his suit would stop him from burning. Also, Samus is hurt from lava too.

Samus can only fall that far without getting hurt because the game programmers are too damn lazy to put a few lines of code it that would do that. Halo is much more realistic.

Actually, MC can run faster and longer. He's been genetically modified (Even says in the manual, I believe) so he can run for almost ever, has unbrakeable bones, and alot more power than any human. His suit triples his already incredible speed and strength. He could crush Samus with one finger. Just a flick of the finger, and off goes her head. Just to be funny, he could do it with his middle finger.

Samus is hurt by lava? There's an entire room that's just about nothing BUT lava in Super Metroid, that you can get through without any damage at all. The VARIA and POWER Suit are damaged by Lava, but not the Gravity.

Yes, the manual says he's geneticaly modified, but it doesn't say what effects the genetics have made other than making him super strong.
A flick of the finger? Samus also wears a power a power suit, and the helmet is attached in a way that would make breaking the helmet off without a large chunk of the torso section pretty much impossible.
The MC would break his finger trying to do that,doesn't matter how strong he is, and his suit isn't strong enough to break something heavier, larger, atleast just as strong off.

Master chiefs suit is much better than Samuses. If Samus were n it, it would move so fast for her that it'd break her bones.
Also, Master Chief has MUCH better reactions. More than 10 times the normal humans (13 miliseconds is the average human, with adrenalin pumping its like 7-9 So his would be like 1.3 miliseconds.) Thats fast enought to see the plasma shot of samus, and jump out of the way. So in reality, Samus couldn't hit him.
Also, all your post shows is that Samus is a weiner. She turns into a ball and runs away at any sign of danger.

Master Chief would win so bad, its not even funny. GG, or rather, BG.[/quote]
God, I hate when people use the books for referance.
It would break her bones? Not necesarily, she could have artificial augmentation also. Moving fast being enough to break her bones, look at her dashing speed.
And if he can react fast enough to dodge her plasma shots, then what about in game? God, the Plasma Bolts from Pistols and Rifles are so damn slow. If I were the MC, I could easily dodge those censored.gif ers. So why are they actualy kinda difficult to dodge in Halo? Even Charged Shots will hit occasionaly, and those are slow as hell.
And she's a weiner? By battling the Master Chief, she's putting herself in danger, so don't say 'at any sign of danger'. And only a moron will not take advantages of their strengths when fighting someone whose about equally matched, not counting said advantages on either person's part.

[color=red]Halo 2 you can dual wield weapons. Have you ever held a gun? Rather 2? and shooting them both. It's f*cking hard. You would proably start shooting up and break your teeth,
Don't start the "realistic" bullsh*t. The programemrs weren't lazy Samus is that strong.

The MC has a high-tech powered armor suit, along with genetic augmentations.
Plus, this is a few hundred years into the future. I'm sure that by then, genetic alteration+highest available tech powered combat armor will be enough to counter the recoil from guns that are probably built for low-recoil.

"Sir we have a huge Halo fanatic here..."
"What's the problem here"
"Well he thinks everything is lower then Halo. Meaning if you don't have Halo then you are lower then him"
"That censored.gif , we should kill em"

Very intelligent comeback![/sarcasm]

Masta cheif...he has very good aiming and his suit rules and if he smashes samus in the back with the assaulkt rifle samus would die
"Very good aiming" and "his suit rules". Now, I may be mistaken, but those apply to Samus' suti also. GG no rm n00b.
Smashing Samus in the back with an assault rifle killing her? Why would it kill her?
Sure, it kills the MC, but I have never seen Samus get killed by a single hit to the back by anything.

yes but like you said this is in all games except GTA so don't pin it against Halo, at least there IS gravity damage. I don't care who you are or what your wearing, a 100 yard fall would hurt. Plus in Metroid Prime, very 1st scene, Samus leaps out of her ship in space onto a Pirate Ship. Wouldn't she just float away? hence the name ZERO gravity... So yes halo is more realistic.
Why don't the things in the Pillar of Autumn fly around all over?
It's called artificial gravity.

You make it sound like MC is just gonna stand there and get pelted by Samus. How do Samus' opponents come out from her screw attack? FACING UP. And after her attack she is immobile until she hits the ground (unless you count floating to the side a little) but her opponents are not. Chief has the best opportunity to counterattack more now than ever in the history of all battles.
Okay, a plasma rifle is enough to stun him, or a Ghosts double rifles.
Now imagine havng a huge suit of metal with a human in it slamming into his head while feeding him extremely-high energy. That alone should be enough to snap his neck.

Cabled Ligature+Servos= Much stronger thing. His suit has alot of them. The stronger something is, the faster it can do things. Since his suit like quadruples his strength, that means like kicking a soccerball four times as hard. Sure it'd be powerful, but the syntrifical force would just rip your joints apart. Augmentations in the Master Chief stop that from happening. Samus doesn't have those. Pwned.
Again, I ask you, where does it say she's not geneticaly augmented? In fact, I'm pretty sure she is.

Actually, that might work. It breaks their back, so, yeah, it might.
It breaks her back? No, I think it would break the MC's fist first, seeing as that's less heavily armored.
Samus can have huge spikes bigger than she is slam into her back, when she's NO- censored.gif ING-WHERE NEAR her full strength when she fights Kraid, and they just hurt a little. Not to mention his flying scythes which are about as big as the head on Samus' armor. Nice try.Well, not really, pathetic try.

Listen, it keeps HIM cool, not the things around him. His suit would get somewhat damaged, but he wouldn't, cause the jel stops him from being burnt to a black Master Chief Cookie.
Now what makes you think that it doesn't hurt him?
He walks into a fire, and it burns him.
Trust me, liquified rock is a censored.gif ing lot hotter than that.
Samus' suit can endure MUCH higher heat than MC's suit. If I remember correctly, the fire even stuns him slightly, though I may be wrong on that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red-X on 2004-10-30 at 20:54:32
nobody has said he can run at 56km p/hr i believe what was said was 1 kilmenter in around 30 seconds (im not actuallt looking im guessing) but i know it wasnt 56km p/hr. And that is based on the game. Does Samus have the ability to sprint? NO. Chief isn't sprinting either. Its more of a jog. Nice try though.

Samus jumps so high because of her suit, Chief jumps based on his strength plus some extra boost from the suit. Samus has the double jump ability so that just proves its all in her suit.

Samus is hurt by lava? There's an entire room that's just about nothing BUT lava in Super Metroid, that you can get through without any damage at all. The VARIA and POWER Suit are damaged by Lava, but not the GravityThat was before Metroid Prime where she does get hurt by lava in the gravity suit. Lava was about the only thing that killed me in that game because its so censored.gif easy. MC would be able to beet that whole entrire game easily if he had infinte ammo.

Why don't the things in the Pillar of Autumn fly around all over?
It's called artificial gravity.

Thats inside, she's outside. Astronauts have a cord attatched to their suits for space walks because without them thay WOULD float away. And inside the Space Pirate frigate there are objects floating around until you turn on the artificial gravity! PWNED

It breaks her back? No, I think it would break the MC's fist first, seeing as that's less heavily armored.
He doesnt need to use his hand. He can hit her with a rocket launcher or something. The momentum of the heavy duty weapons alone would stun her at least. (I say stun at least because if I don't EzDay2 will get all pissy about it)

And the ony attack that actually slows down MC when he is being shot at would be a rocket or a full cartridge of needles. He runs through everything else.

And I could have guessed you were a 13 year old, the maturity level in your posts suggest it. I would have guessed down maybe another year or two though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2004-10-30 at 22:26:35
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Your gunna get schooled.

If you're going to use the word "Schooled" might want to use correct gramar:
"You're going to get schooled"

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Play, you'll suck


I've beaten it 4-7 times on hard mode. Don't judge my skill of the game by my hatedread to it.

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Plus the cooling jel would mask his heat signature. This brings up another point.


Confirmed by Creators of Metroid Prime 2 (You get to use the censored.gif ty novels I get to use the next MP tongue.gif) Echo vision and X-ray vision. I'm guessing you know what X-ray vision is, and echo vision allows her to see sound. So if you needed to reload you're kind of f*cked. Also if you breathe you're also kind of f*cked. Seeing how MC proably doesn't know that she has that kind of vision which would give the advantage of surprise.

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"Sir we have a huge Halo fanatic here..."
"What's the problem here"
"Well he thinks everything is lower then Halo. Meaning if you don't have Halo then you are lower then him"
"That , we should kill em"
Very intelligent comeback![/sarcasm]


Who's f*cking side are you on.

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Since when are beetles stronger than an Elite or a Hunter?


Sure Elite and Hunters look more intimidating but since all the weapons in Halo, are guns. They are basically only as good as their weapon they are holding... which could be a weak one.

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Her orange suit makes her stand out like a guy in the woods during hunting season.


Deafult suit. I'm guessing MC's suits have more then one color -.-
One of her other suits are dark gray, which she would proably use since it has everything the Power Suit does and more.

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As for her morph ball: its not as fast as some people make it to sound.


Proably because in the game they wouldn't want you to control something you can't see... You all say that MC is quick Reflexs and great aim and other stuff but you don't really see those quick reflexs in the game, except a cinematic. You guys have the back up of Novels on Halo see MP only has it's games and some side stories in the games.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red-X on 2004-10-30 at 22:57:51
I haven't base my side of the debate on the book.

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Sure Elite and Hunters look more intimidating but since all the weapons in Halo, are guns. They are basically only as good as their weapon they are holding... which could be a weak one.

They also have a physical attack. And im sorry that only Space Pirates, Chozo Ghosts, plants, and a few bugs (which are weak as hell) have the ability to shoot weapons.

If the game takes place around 3000 years later, shouldnt she be fighting intelligent beings? By then space travel should be a thing of the past. Meaning that locating other intelligent beings should be to.

No one yes has challenged the giant Christmas tree ornaments on her shoulders yet.

If Samus can change her suit in the middle of a battle, or before it so that its not default, then Chief does to. So if they are in space-black suit, jungle-green, blah blah blah. Her visors are also a huge target. If it was a night battle all MC would have to look for are glowing lights running around.

ADDITION: I haven't based my side of the debate on the book.

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Sure Elite and Hunters look more intimidating but since all the weapons in Halo, are guns. They are basically only as good as their weapon they are holding... which could be a weak one.

They also have a physical attack. And im sorry that only Space Pirates, Chozo Ghosts, plants, and a few bugs (which are weak as hell) have the ability to shoot weapons.

If the game takes place around 3000 years later, shouldnt she be fighting intelligent beings? By then space travel should be a thing of the past. Meaning that locating other intelligent beings should be to.

No one yes has challenged the giant Christmas tree ornaments on her shoulders yet.

If Samus can change her suit in the middle of a battle, or before it so that its not default, then Chief does to. So if they are in space-black suit, jungle-green, blah blah blah. Her visors are also a huge target. If it was a night battle all MC would have to look for are glowing lights running around.

And dont tell people how to talk in a forum, geez u jsut needed some filler in there huh. And if u wanna tell him how many times youve beeten a game, message it to him not all of us. Your problem, not ours.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ][-][ //-\\ ][_ {()} on 2004-10-30 at 23:19:05
some is gonna get pwn hmmm it starts w/ fe and ends w/ male.....female=samus

you all know that the only reason Master Chief gets hurt from jumping off a tall ledege is beacuse of the realisticness unlike metroid the producers nee to lear how to get off their lazy a$$es and make it realistic.

lava
samus would die sooooooo f-ing fast if it werent for that gravity suit that she got at like the very end of the game Master Chief yeah his armor will get burned but the cooling gel in his suit makes it so he doesnt get burned.

power
Master Chief would win in power one melee in the back of samus = SPINE SHATTERED. samus cant melee because her gun is attached to her D@MN ARM

aim
Master Chief will own in aiming but but doesnt have unlimeted ammo and in the books he pretty much never misses. samus on the other hand look at her her aiming sucks unless you target.

grenades
Master Chief can throw his grenade pretty much all they way across Blood Gulch 2nd biggest map in Halo multi player the biggest he can throw half way through the level samus hahaha her "grenades" bombs fall right benether her I mean how lame is that its like shes taking a $hit that blows up and distroys blocks and her bombs dont stick like in Halo, power bombs have an unrealistic explosion range

weapons
Master Chief has a variety of weapons that will own samus wat does samus have a plasma beam Master Chief have a Plasma Pistol Plasma Rifle yeah sure they run out of ammo and over heat but they shoot faster. MA5B weak but can still make holes in her suits then she goes into the lava and lava goes into thoese hole and what happens......BURNINATED 1 Sniper Rifle shot to the head her green visor will turn red




in conclusion Master Chief will PWN Samus if this was like SSBM and they each had 100 lives samus would have 2 lives left but Master Chief would have like 99 because he lost his footing and fell down into the weird maps....have you noticed THEY ARE ALL FLOATING I MEAN WTF IS UP w/ THAT?!?!?!?


everyone that wants samus to win is probably some nerd.....some people really need G/Fs these days

chair.gif look samus is getting owned already
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2004-10-31 at 00:18:11
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everyone that wants samus to win is probably some nerd.....some people really need G/Fs these days
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I would like to point out that your name is HALO only in diffrent letters. Nerd. Shut up.
Note: If your name is: "Halorulz!!!111" or "HALOIST3HAWUSM" I will disregarde anything you say.

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If the game takes place around 3000 years later, shouldnt she be fighting intelligent beings?


Ice Age smile.gif
No I'm kidding. Samus's world takes place... in another world. There's no "Earth" in the games (I think) so they could evolve diffrently. Meaning Bugs could be much stronger wink.gif

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I haven't base my side of the debate on the book.


Talking to the other person defending MC

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If it was a night battle


Again, Echo Vision. See your footsteops.

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samus would die sooooooo f-ing fast if it werent for that gravity suit


Same with MC. I think even Halo fans can agree with that. Sure he's gentically altered but his skin still burns to lava. It's his suit that protects him from lava.

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samus on the other hand look at her her aiming sucks unless you target.


Since when does her aiming suck? IT'S LOCKED ON SHE CAN'T MISS. Unless the enemy hides behind a rock or something

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Master Chief can throw his grenade pretty much all they way across Blood Gulch


Bullsh*t. You can't throw it that far it can only go half way across the map. Plus those things don't denoate on contact, it would explod in the air, or give her enough time to run away from it.

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Master Chief has a variety of weapons that will own samus wat does samus have a plasma beam


You obviously haven't played any of the games. She also has Ice Beam, Wave Beam, Flamethrower, (MP2:) Dark Beam, Light Beam, and a lot of other things.

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MA5B weak but can still make holes in her suits then she goes into the lava and lava goes into thoese hole and what happens


Why the hell would she jump into lava? Plus seeing how the suit is made out of TITAIUM, bullets would reflect and proably make a farily large scrath but not a f*cking hole.

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look samus is getting owned already


Ok 2/3 Halo Defendeds (Excluding Red-X) have become so cocky in their responese that they end it with: OMFOGFMOGFMOMOGFMOGFMOGF J00 GTS PWN0RS'D LZOZLOZLOZLOZLOOZZLO YOU SACKIE MC 4EVA.
Which is incredblie annoying, and makes it funnier to argue with you because you're such an idiot.
Now Let me imitate you guys:

LOL LOOKS LIKE MASTER CHEIF JUST GOT PWNED!!!! LOLZ
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-10-31 at 01:57:41
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Why the hell would she jump into lava? Plus seeing how the suit is made out of TITAIUM, bullets would reflect and proably make a farily large scrath but not a f*cking hole.

Titanium? Weak. Compared to the MC's suit that has multilayers of different alloys, and a coating to disperse energy attacks. To make it simply, uber strong, makes energy weapons less effective.
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I've beaten it 4-7 times on hard mode. Don't judge my skill of the game by my hatedread to it.

Hard(Heroic) is easy. I said lengendary. Also (Based on another of your posts) you said you shot at someones head 6 times with a shot gun and they didn't die, that means (assuming) you couldn't aim so you wouldn't be able to beat it.
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Proably because in the game they wouldn't want you to control something you can't see... You all say that MC is quick Reflexs and great aim and other stuff but you don't really see those quick reflexs in the game, except a cinematic. You guys have the back up of Novels on Halo see MP only has it's games and some side stories in the games.

If the Master Chief was playing the game, it would. WE have bad reflexes, so in turn in the game so does he.
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Sure Elite and Hunters look more intimidating but since all the weapons in Halo, are guns. They are basically only as good as their weapon they are holding... which could be a weak one.

This obvioulsy shows you haven't beaten legendary. A freaking grunt can kill you in a matter of seconds because of how fast it can fire with a plasma pistol. So..
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I've beaten it 4-7 times on hard mode. Don't judge my skill of the game by my hatedread to it.

Obviously not.
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You obviously haven't played any of the games. She also has Ice Beam, Wave Beam, Flamethrower, (MP2:) Dark Beam, Light Beam, and a lot of other things.

Hmm, six weapons. 7 including bombs WIDE VARIETY [/sarcasm]
Halo already has 10 and is coming out with even more in Halo2.
Based on the first, its a 1:2 ration. Halo has twice as many and rising.
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Since when does her aiming suck? IT'S LOCKED ON SHE CAN'T MISS. Unless the enemy hides behind a rock or something

Thats big time bull. You can be locked on and have something moving and miss.
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Same with MC. I think even Halo fans can agree with that. Sure he's gentically altered but his skin still burns to lava. It's his suit that protects him from lava.

Same with Samus. She still can die from lava.
GigaPwned
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-10-31 at 04:23:00
Who's f*cking side are you on
You complained at the end of your post a little while ago about how people say stupid stuff at the end of their post.
What I was being sarcastic about was the exact same censored.gif ing thing, except in the middle of the post, you hypocrite.

I haven't base my side of the debate on the book.
When I complain about using the book as a referance, I'm not complaining about you doing it wink.gif
And about the 56 KPH, other people were using the book for referance, and the book says the Spartan II's could run at 56KPH, somewhere.

No one yes has challenged the giant Christmas tree ornaments on her shoulders yet.
Well, unless you count the dark-grey suit mentioned by Golden-fist.
But that's because, excepting that, it's true and undeniable.
I'm arguing in favor of Samus, but if a Samus supporter says something stupid, I'll point it out if it hasn't been already. If an MC supporter says something that is true, and that I can't counter, then I won't try, since it's pointless.
Or if I'm just too tired, lazy, bored, etc.

If Samus can change her suit in the middle of a battle, or before it so that its not default, then Chief does to
He said it's one of her suits, not a special thing she can do in the middle of battle.

samus would die sooooooo f-ing fast if it werent for that gravity suit that she got at like the very end of the game Master Chief yeah his armor will get burned but the cooling gel in his suit makes it so he doesnt get burned.
The MasterChief would die sooooooo fast on the Maw Legendary if it weren't for his MJOLNIR.
Face it, her armor is something she comes with as much as the MC comes with his.
I agree with anyone that says that in unarmored, hand-to-hand combat, the 'Chief would win, but for fairness and the point of the argument's in the first place sake, they both have their censored.gif ing armor.
The MC would get burned, but his cooling gel would protect him?
Did you COMPLETELY ignore when I pointed out that Samus can withstand lava, and the MC is hurt by FIRE?!

power
Master Chief would win in power one melee in the back of samus = SPINE SHATTERED. samus cant melee because her gun is attached to her D@MN ARM

How would hitting her in the back shatter her spine? He may be strong, but as has been said before...
Just because one of the MASTER CHIEF'S weaknesses is his back, doesn't mean that Samus' is. If you're going to use an argument, make sure that either it's something that no one has said before, or you give a different reason for its validity then the person who originaly said it.

aim
Master Chief will own in aiming but but doesnt have unlimeted ammo and in the books he pretty much never misses. samus on the other hand look at her her aiming sucks unless you target.

Her aim sucks unless you target?
Well, MC's aim can be just as bad.

grenades
Master Chief can throw his grenade pretty much all they way across Blood Gulch 2nd biggest map in Halo multi player the biggest he can throw half way through the level samus hahaha her "grenades" bombs fall right benether her I mean how lame is that its like shes taking a $hit that blows up and distroys blocks and her bombs dont stick like in Halo, power bombs have an unrealistic explosion range

Wrong: He can throw it more like a third or half across Blood Gulch.
Also, Samus doesn't have Grenades...
Do you mean her, perhaps, BOMBS, which are SUPPOSED to fall underneath her?
Bombs aren't meant to be a weapon, they're meant to be a tool for traveling and destroying things in her way.
As for power bombs, how is their explosion unrealisticly large?
Their made by some hyper-advanced alien-species 3000 years into the future.
And right now we can easily create bombs with a much, much higher explosion radius that are man-portable.

weapons
Master Chief has a variety of weapons that will own samus wat does samus have a plasma beam Master Chief have a Plasma Pistol Plasma Rifle yeah sure they run out of ammo and over heat but they shoot faster. MA5B weak but can still make holes in her suits then she goes into the lava and lava goes into thoese hole and what happens......BURNINATED 1 Sniper Rifle shot to the head her green visor will turn red

First of all, he has a variety of weapons that will own Samus?
You've only explained 2 of the weapons, one with a stupid meaningless explanation.
Besides, the MC can only carry 2 weapons, so it doesn't matter how many there are.
MA5B can make holes in her suit? And then she goes into the lava?
I don't know where you got the lava deal from, all my mentions of lava were to point out the faaaar superior heat resistance...
Secondly, exactly. The MA5B is weak. It's so weak that it actualy takes more than a half second to kill a Grunt. As in a smal thing, with practicaly no armor.

everyone that wants samus to win is probably some nerd
Yes and Mr.|-|/-\|_0-l5-"|"3|-|-|20x who states that the Master Chief will own Samus with super random, already stated and countered arguments action is not a nerd at all! For the second time in one post: "Hypocrite".

I would like to point out that your name is HALO only in diffrent letters. Nerd. Shut up.
Note: If your name is: "Halorulz!!!111" or "HALOIST3HAWUSM" I will disregarde anything you say.

Even a hypocrite fanboy's biased opinions(I am not saying that this is what ][-][ //-\\ ][_ {()} is, but merely that it can be what SOMEONE is) should be taken into account, because there is the chance that they might strike a gold nugget in the form of an argument.
They may drop it on the ground and get it filthy a few times, and they may break it into small pieces so that it's like any other small collection of tiny gold chunks, but it's still a valid argument.

Same with MC. I think even Halo fans can agree with that. Sure he's gentically altered but his skin still burns to lava. It's his suit that protects him from lava.
Not even that in fact, since fire hurts him. So it's more:
Same with MC. I think that even Halo fans can agree with that. Sure he's gentically altered but his skin is still soft and pink. It's his suit that protects him from dieing in a few seconds while trying to kill 20 times his number in enemies.

Since when does her aiming suck? IT'S LOCKED ON SHE CAN'T MISS. Unless the enemy hides behind a rock or something
It can miss, it's just that if the target is stationary, she won't.
But the MC wouldn't be stupid enough to do that.
Though there is a something called 'leading' and 'spread fire'.

If the Master Chief was playing the game, it would. WE have bad reflexes, so in turn in the game so does he.
And who's to say that Samus doesn't also have amazing reflexes, just dropped down to the level of us untrained casual players due to the fact that we're controlling her?

Same with Samus. She still can die from lava.
As I've said, it doesn't matter.
They. Both. HAve. Their. censored.gif ing. Armor.
I'm tired of saying the same crap over and over because you people keep saying the same thing, or something that's just as relevant to my repeated statement.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-10-31 at 06:39:27
All I have to say is that MC can only hold a gun, pistol and grenades while samus can hold as many as 5 different weapons, missiles, visors and turn into a ball that launches bombs...

Not to mention she has unlimited ammo.

But anyway, this is a stupid topic to argue about. First of all, if they were to battle, we would have to know the exact place, date, and time, and all the variables. Think of it this way... even if a tank was fighting a soldier in real life, the tank could theoretically lose if there was an earthquake...

So the moral of the story is... Master Chief and Samus got married and they screwed around and "POP", out came... BOMBERMAN!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-10-31 at 13:32:16
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The MasterChief would die sooooooo fast on the Maw Legendary if it weren't for his MJOLNIR.

As would samus on Hard mode.
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Well, MC's aim can be just as bad.

True, but he doesn't have an auto target system, does he?
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How would hitting her in the back shatter her spine? He may be strong, but as has been said before...

I think he meant break. It might, it might not, who knows. :/
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Not even that in fact, since fire hurts him.

Fire hurts samus too, like those fire tube things that shoot out fire in MP. Shes also hurt by heat with her power suit only. But, since we'd try to make this as fair as fight as possible, we'd assume that she has a gravity suit, so that wouldn't happen.
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And who's to say that Samus doesn't also have amazing reflexes, just dropped down to the level of us untrained casual players due to the fact that we're controlling her?

If that's true, than this fight'd last for ever. THey'd both be doing the matrix dodging the bullets and stuff. biggrin.gif
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They. Both. HAve. Their.  ing. Armor.

Ok, this is what I'm saying. Samus is hurt by lava. MC might be able to get out unharmed, but his suit damaged, because of the coolants. BUT, if he stayed in too long, his suit could get really damaged and he could die. Lets drop this part of it, since when are they both just gunna jump into lava?
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of all, if they were to battle, we would have to know the exact place, date, and time, and all the variables.

Very true, because if there is no lava, the statement above means nothing.
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even if a tank was fighting a soldier in real life, the tank could theoretically lose if there was an earthquake...

...Lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-10-31 at 14:02:36
As would samus on Hard mode.
I was merely pointing out how stupid the "Samus would die soo fast without her suit" statement was wink.gif

True, but he doesn't have an auto target system, does he?
which is completely, as far as I can tell, irrelevant...

I think he meant break. It might, it might not, who knows. :/
Well, then perhaps MC defendants could stop mentioning the back-hit tongue.gif

we'd assume that she has a gravity suit, so that wouldn't happen.
And what do you think my point exactly was? wink.gif tongue.gif

If that's true, than this fight'd last for ever. THey'd both be doing the matrix dodging the bullets and stuff.
Wow, finally someone catches onto that, GJ : cheers :

Lets drop this part of it, since when are they both just gunna jump into lava?
Good point =D

Very true, because if there is no lava, the statement above means nothing.
The very post that makes me not be frustrated by stupidity is one that doesn't say that Samus wins or MC wins.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2004-10-31 at 16:35:57
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Also (Based on another of your posts) you said you shot at someones head 6 times with a shot gun and they didn't die, that means (assuming) you couldn't aim so you wouldn't be able to beat it.


Multiplayer.
Two diffrent things smile.gif

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Lets drop this part of it, since when are they both just gunna jump into lava?
Good point =D


Well forget lava. But as you said Fire burns him / Hurts him, and Samus DOES have a flamethrower wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-10-31 at 19:02:46
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which is completely, as far as I can tell, irrelevant...

I was just pointing that out.
Someone said Samus has bad aim with auto lock. Then someone said only when shes not locked on.
Then someone said that Masterchief had bad aim, so I was pointing out that he doesn't have a auto lock, so its natural for him to have sub par aiming.
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