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Mini moose? In question? Lol... that is such a joke.
Bolt_head...? Why should he be in your list?
Sala isn't a mod... he just has (U)'s forum like he stated.
Beer_Keg is god. If you think he needs to be removed, go ahead and leave.
Mr.Camo + Aster don't do anything wrong as far as I can see.
How do MA + Xeno even affect you guys?
Clokr_ is going to get removed anyways because he's never on and doesn't moderate when he's on.

So then... is your "requests" only about dt_bk?

hmmm... I might add that a some number of people hate me because of something they did.

High --- had argument over rules
SP --- had his topic locked (must be thinking "I'm Yoshis friend how DARE you lock my topic")
Sala --- because I think he flames too much

The only person I think has justifyable resons to not think highly of me professionally is Moose.

It also scares me the SP now hates me so much, he LIES to make me look bad.

Thats the second time ive made the top of someones hate list

sweet!

Read the disclaimer, fool. The list was compiled so that no parties were left unmentioned so that no one person was singled out. -.-;

As for Camo, I think I'll tell you over AIM why he needs to be put down a little.
Xeno and MA were added per request of salacious.
All staff was mentioned, except for you, IP. and for a reason.

People are taking this oppurtunity to target someone personally and harmfully. (my view). This thread is going no where good.

Another thing to mention, Yoshi may have kept this place in a better shape, but some of you got to get off thinking that Isolated is doing a bad coz that ain't going to help either. You can't blame the reputation of a website only on the admin.

You don't get it, Kruser. I never liked you, even in Yoshi's time. I just don't care now about what I say since I'm not an admin anymore that has to control itself.

On the other side, I wouldn't say the same thing about you and your attitude as someone thats needs to show the example (because, yes, it is what a moderator is supposed to do).

At first, I thought she was out of line.
Your post just seconded what she was talking about DT.

I have had no problem with the moderation, it's their site and they've built it. But, I think saying that someone's opinion doesn't matter isn't right and you shouldn't be in power if you're going to flat out say they don't matter. Every (active) member of this site matters to an extent, whether they have something good to say or not. It shouldn't matter whether it's 7 or 500 people, their opinion still matters.

I am also certain that there will be more than 7 at the end of this post who agree with them.

ADDITION: Also this may be better suited for serious discussion, since it is a serious discussion and all...

wow so far you guys only have 4 people going for it. unfortunetly for you, i dont think DT_BK has done anything that bad. why are the other mods in it also? isnt this only for DT_BK, you guys havnt said anything about why the others should be kicked out.

LoL. I had a nice eight hours to think about this and all the other topics that spouted up while I was sleeping. First off, this is incredibly lame on all of your parts. You want to threaten me with your absence if I don't remove people from power? This whole thread is seriously kiddy shizznet. I'm certain you could have found a more mature way of going about this. If I was going to remove dt_bk's power, I was contemplating telling you guys I wasn't going to at first, let you leave, then afterwards taking away his power...
just because this is just that retarded.

Anyways, when I got home, I found a nice quote by screwed in the "stop the hate" topic:
"Taking harmful actions on someone publically is not [respectful], is not considerate and definitely is not making the issue better."

Now, this certainly seems like mob mentality. Everyone changes their mind because of dt_bk reducing his own warn level? Or aka, by SP, "reality". That's a joke. You could have supported your opinion with something more concrete. Dt_bk didn't even do that as a mod, he did it before I made him one (meaning, it didn't even bother me, why should you care about it?)


Regardless, I wanted him replaced a long time ago. My expetations of participation was clear... So while this little team of the "undersigned" wants me to review the staff, might as well as make his removal official.


What does that have to do with anything? I'm not even sure what you are trying to say here. SEN is too forgiving?


Back your opinion with facts/ideas. I'd rather have constructive critism rather then just being called a dip . Don't be scared to speak freely.


Yeah probably... I had a little php experience behind me before I became admin, sure... but I had zero experience babysitting a bunch of kids.


Clokr_ doesn't even come around too much anymore. He doesn't even moderate when he does... yet you have him on your list? DT_Bk is certainly doing a better job than him just by being around more than 1 day every 2 weeks or whatever.
Lol... just goes to show how much you know about the staff.


So you want Beer to do all the work with the DLDB... Sala for the tutorials... and moose, bolt, camo, and me to mod the whole forum? Like previously stated, clokr_ doesn't mod. So what... 4 people to make sure everyone else stays in line? Bolt_head and Camo aren't really online that much to take care of 25% of SEN.
I didn't take this position to spend my entire day babysitting
-or-
responding to threads like this. Seriously, again, you could have all done this in a better way.


ADDITION: (part 2)


You forgot Coko then.


Your personal buisness with him is only making your biased towards him and his relationship with SEN. So what about dt_bk then? Forget the fact he reduced his warn level, it's not even important.


And while writing this post, you now just did the same thing. Of course you don't like him being a mod, you never did like him in the first place.

See though... when I was first handed SEN, you weren't around to tell me who those "other" people were. I surely wasn't around SEN enough to know who those people were. I'm slightly curious why you came back anyways, just to start arguements? Why did ya need to let time pass before dishing out your opinions instead of giving them to me during the transaction when I needed them? Or hey... you could have helped mod a little while I got settled in... and perhaps then, I wouldn't felt I needed DT's help.



Now, a while ago, I contemplated dropping DT from his position. I decided to give him another shot at it... he's generally improved greatly since then. However, if you want to discuss my judgement on making him a mod, go ahead, but cut the bull .

Haha. The problem is, everyone that would have deserved a moderator title left. Go figure why!!

*cough*


Oh and, BTW, I was the only guy doing the DLDB before, and I was doing fine.

Go figure why...
Why don't you explicitly spell it out for me?

For who doesnt know it, DT_BK was a spammer, he was the spammest member on the forum, no flamming, just spam. All the forums had his nick in the LAST POST BY field when he came to the forums and with all I mean all of them.
I don't know if he changed and now he is a good mod, but he was a spammer.

About me I should say (and lots of members know it) that I'm not active until vacations, because school>SEN. And you should ask to those members if those moderators were good or bad ones.

I just came to this forum lately because of this recent forums problems. I'll try to moderate better this winter vacations -.-"

I don't know, that's what I'm asking. Andrew would have been alright, so would Ent, Dashrike, SpaceBoy, DD, etc...

I did find it ironic i wasn't included, but then i don't consider myself a spammer, i've got a High post count by replying to people on a constant basis and have been constantly active for the last few months. Anything that would consider Moderator Spam i do within Edits of other people's post, to single out that incident for themselves and what i consider inappropiate use of this forum.

Yeah... and who are those people? I haven't seen them around since I joined SEN months ago, except a faint memory of seeing Ent somewhere.
So, anyways:

That practically seems to be a direct contradiction to this little thread of this whole ultimatum you're throwing here.


Probably because your forum is in the little corner of SEN . I kinda find it annoying that you use edits actually...

I understand, but i find it a better way than PM's because then people know what i consider right and wrong, and it won't get in the way of the rest of the Thread, and therefore not just add to the problem, although i know some people don't like it.

And apparently, YOU don't contradict yourself here either with the fact that I wasn't the one that created this so-called ultimatum...

No, but you added yourself to the list. I don't even think firekame had specific reasons to really start this little petition, other than everyone going on a rampage about how member X sucks.

That's not the point. There's no real goal to argue alone versus someone else you hate, or not, over Private Messages. It's just... boring, and meaningless.

Contradiction is fun. You see who everyone is taking for, and why. Then you can judge from yourself (example of DT abusing his powers, that no one knew of, before Moose pointed it out. Everyone was like "omg DTBK owns!". You saw the change after this).

How about... maturity?

Edit: I guess you're right though, it's boring... because then I can't step into the middle of it and pwn both sides of the arugement.


Because yeah, so many people in that thread gave support for their displeasure in him being a mod, much less, concrete support.

SP, why cant you just shut up and stop making things worse?
IP, you should try to solve this. Make up new rules, punish some members, etc, instead of arguing with SP.

Comming out from someone that says he hates SEN...

Yes I do right now but instead of flaming people I am trying to SOLVE things. And this thread is getting off topic too.

So what! EVERY subjects are ALWAYS getting off topic one day or another! This is a garbage forum, you can go off topic as much as you want, geez... (unlike mapping and serious D. forums).

That's SEN's problem. Off topic? GG TOPIC OMGOMGOMG OFF TOPIC MUST CLOSE OH NOSS!!1