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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-12-12 at 16:28:07
A petition:
The undersigned have agreed that, whether in it's entirety or in one person, the moderator staff needs to be thrown out and new staff placed in. The moderatoring staff (and other members of power) in question consists of (but not limited to): Mini_Moose_2707, (U)Bolt_Head, Clokr_, SaLaCiouS(U), BeeR_KeG[eM], MilleniumArmy, Xeno(U), MindArchon, Mr.Camo, Aster, DT_Battlekruser. If our requests are not met, we will leave.
FireKame {removed}
ShadowPaladin
Kow
StealthyDeath


up for discussion. You got a problem, post it. This is not your right to flame either. this is for mature debate, and let it be known that it would be taken in the wrong light if a member of the moderator staff were to close this thread.

DISCLAIMER: Please note that not all names mentioned are guilty to be punished. However, they should be questioned as to whether or not they may be allowed to stay as they are.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-12-12 at 16:29:59
Can you give us a reason as to why they should be kicked out?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-12-12 at 16:32:31
Do not confuse being kicked out with being removed from power.

There has been growing contention over the moderating staff, that has been fueled by not only members but also from the staff itself, such as DT's thread on how well liked salacious is. That was out of line.

Please hold while I dig up some past threads.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PearS on 2004-12-12 at 16:37:35
I like Bolt. He is VERY helpful and a nice guy. Sala is growing on me too =p. Never had any problems with any others.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-12-12 at 16:43:38
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=8165
it was not in the best taste to create the thread, it was in worse taste to end it the way that DT did.

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=8170
again, see what I said above.

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=8173
and the hate continues

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=7948
judging by the name, I'm sure you can see what I mean...

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=3490&st=80
go to the last page, mr.camo unpinned and unlocked because it was "stupid", he also told everyone to "go ahead and spam it up."

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=8174
oops...almost forgot this one. just some good pointers.

It appears the old picture request thread has been deleted as well, but talk about flamings on both parties.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2004-12-12 at 16:52:52
Most of these have experience in moderating. Why kick them out...?
I don't see the reason...
None of those things justify it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-12-12 at 16:58:18
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I hate people that mass upload the DLDB.


You don't know how it's like FK. Some people(Mainly that Heimdal poser), uploaded 40 maps per day, most of those maps had already been uploaded, they placed them all in one category(wrong ones), and you warn then via PM and they keep doing it day after day.

That a good reason for you?

In defense of Map Team, how do you expect people to go against us 3? No one besides IP and MM can see what we do. Sure they may notice a few mahor changes like when me and IP made a new category or when I delete/approve a map/ add screenshots to every single map.
Normal users can't see those tiny little changes that I make, putting the authors in almost every file that I could and trying to update every single file(besides maps and wavs).
MilleniumArmy is making reviews of every single map requested with reviews and I ahve read them all and he has done a great job. He does it alone because I'm really bad at reviewing and I don't have a working cd-drive right now to which play maps properly with.
Xeno(U) is currently grounded and can't do much but he helps once in a while. When he is un-grouned I'm sure he will do his job well.

It's not an easy job and how do you expect people to let us not stay in our position if they can barely see what changes we do?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-12-12 at 17:02:58
FireKame shouldn't you get someone to agree with you before doing anything?

Also, MilleniumArmy and Xeno(U) are not mods. I am a mod of the (U) forums, which is pretty much out of the question for changing. You didn't even mention MindArchon.

FireKame why don't you just leave now, alone?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-12-12 at 17:16:42
Don't be so gullible. Get out of your little world of pretend, will you? For crying out loud, I've played ya'll countless times, and you go back to peachy keen in a matter of seconds. Wake up, SEN!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-12-12 at 17:53:59
Firekame hates me cry.gif

you know, I'm don't usually post on this forum, just in vacations, and this kind of things change too fast. You know, one day we are a happy map making comunity and the next day people is trying to ban one of the oldest members just because he stole some minerals with something that (like DK says) its not even a bug. Well, tell me what I should do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-12-12 at 18:07:08
QUOTE(FireKame @ Dec 12 2004, 01:28 PM)
A petition:
The undersigned have agreed that, whether in it's entirety or in one person, the moderator staff needs to be thrown out and new staff placed in. The moderatoring staff in question consists of (but not limited to): Mini_Moose_2707, (U)Bolt_Head, Clokr_, SaLaCiouS(U), BeeR_KeG[eM], MilleniumArmy, Xeno(U), Dark_Templar, Mr.Camo, Aster, DT_Battlekruser.  If our requests are not met, we will leave.
~FireKame
up for discussion. You got a problem, post it. This is not your right to flame either. this is for mature debate, and let it be known that it would be taken in the wrong light if a member of the moderator staff were to close this thread.

DISCLAIMER: Please note that not all names mentioned are guilty to be punished. However, they should be questioned as to whether or not they may be allowed to stay as they are.
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Define "we" in "we will leave". i don't give a censored.gif what 7 people think out of 1400. I never have yet met a universally liked person.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by The Black Hydralisk on 2004-12-12 at 18:08:39
I for one think that the Moderators are great and that you Firekame CAN and SHOULD leave if you dont like it and go to one of the other sites (wich by the way most of em' suck)so firekame (and i dont mean to flame) just Shutup cause non one wants to hear you piss and moan about something noone cares about
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-12-12 at 18:15:23
Kruser, shut the fuk up and go away if you're not happy with this. Try to stay out of serious discussions for once.

This website has way too many moderators for its size.



Sign me in. SP.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-12-12 at 18:26:50
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Define "we" in "we will leave".  i don't give a censored.gif what 7 people think out of 1400.  I never have yet met a universally liked person.

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this thread is stupid, and yet the thread about sala's popularity is not? Go figure...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2004-12-12 at 18:32:03
Of the people mentioned in your list, I only truly have a problem with MilleniumArmy. The guy acts like a ten-year-old with a drug addiction. His work with the map team is the only exploit worthy of praise that I can recall him taking part in. Most of the time he's just spouting out pure crap.

Also, I think IP is kind of a dip censored.gif , but I haven't had the chance to talk with him for more than a second or so, so I cannot speak fairly.

Then there are people like NeoNightmareX, but this isn't really about them, so I'll keep my thoughts to myself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-12-12 at 18:35:59
Too many mods in this website?
We have one mod per 121 registered people here at SEN.
BTW: That number should be higher because not all of the mods cover the whole of SEN most of us just have our own little area.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-12-12 at 18:36:14
Chill, I did not make this thread to flame people. This for genuine problems you have with any of the staff.

how many of the registered members are active, beer_keg[em]?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StealthyDeath on 2004-12-12 at 18:36:40
Seriously this site has become a bunch of flames...If Yoshi was around he would've kept this site in better shape then how it is now.

Anyway I agree with Firekame. The only ones that I think should be kept on the staff are Mini_Moose_2707, (U)Bolt_Head, Clokr_, SaLaCiouS(U), and BeeR_KeG[eM].
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-12-12 at 18:37:00
But abot 50% or so of registered users are 'just here for the pie'
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-12-12 at 18:37:03
Mini_Moose_2707, (U)Bolt_Head, Clokr_, SaLaCiouS(U), BeeR_KeG[eM] and Mr.Camo could easily do all the work for everyone. Anything else is just too much.

The problem that concerns us is not stupid moderators; it's the fact that more stupid members force the addition of more useless/unfair/stupid moderators.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-12-12 at 18:39:00
stealthydeath: would you like to be added to the list?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StealthyDeath on 2004-12-12 at 18:40:17
Sure, I'll be glad to be added.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-12-12 at 18:45:35
FK: You said in first post that Dark_Templar is still moderator when he is not. His position was taken a long time ago because of inactiveness.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2004-12-12 at 18:49:53
indeed? sorry, my bad. I'll go back and change it.


That's too bad..I like that guy...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-12-12 at 19:25:17
Meh. I was trying to be nice to DT_Battlekruser because I thought that, maybe I'm at fault. Maybe he's actually a good guy. Everyone seems to not like it when I flame people. Well as it turned out I was wrong, I'm always censored.gif ing right. I tried to be nice for one day and censored.gif s me in the ass. DT_Battlekruser is a worthless little censored.gif who needs to be kicked out of his position. Anyone I flame, you deserve it, go censored.gif ing burn in Hell you dip censored.gif s. One day I try to be nice.. and all this censored.gif happens because of it.
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