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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tazzy on 2005-02-10 at 14:38:25
I choose Regular melee maps. More fun and more gameplay and team work needed. happy.gif

money maps are for people who want a 5 min fun game with lots of killing and massing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-02-10 at 16:03:13
If I want a short fun game I'll play blood bath.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2005-02-10 at 17:52:47
I BS in moneymaps, because 80+% of the time, theyll have called a NR20. Wth, on a real melee map, the average game lasts about 15-20 minutes, and the action is more aggressive. So sure, I dont like moneymaps and the players that love them, but hey, Im not stopping them from waiting around ingame.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by bajadulce on 2005-02-11 at 21:35:14
My 2 cents on money maps!

Money maps bothered me for a long time. I couldn't understand what could be so much fun about them, and wondered why the majority of games on Bnet seemed to be of these types?

One day it dawned on me... Hey 10 and 12 year olds are allowed to play and enjoy Starcraft too!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by pekkel_the_duck on 2005-02-12 at 01:34:59
Well, money maps are just for fun, you don't build skill to play it the way Blizzard intended it to be played, with a bazillion minerals. But they prob didn't want people to be really competative too, tehy just wanted a game that was fun. And money maps would probably be more fun if 90% of everyone playing them always cuss at you when you attack them. Less people swear on 1v1 regular melee maps.

And whee! First game where I actually stood a chance against a player whose skill level is close to mine. =) I am so proud.*points to attachment*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-02-12 at 02:18:12
NR20, thats the gayest censored.gif . I played someone with money map mentality one time and I went to his base with like 4 goons and a couple zealots (I'm pretty sure he was terran) and I totally stomped him. He wouldn't stop censored.gif ing about how I rushed him, etc. To me waiting for 4 goons and 2 zealots isn't rushing, it's taking my damned censored.gif ing time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Puni(F) on 2005-02-12 at 15:55:06
I would rather play a regular melee map, If I were to play money map's, I would make mass carriers, Or mass BC's, Or mass devourers and guardians...And also i thing regular melee take's more skill and effort then money maps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-02-13 at 22:25:04
With all those minerals in a money map, no scouting, and no expanding, you should be able to win in less than 5 minutes.

No rush isn't a rule, if you join a game saying "NR", rush them anyway. Blizzard did not implement a no rush rule, and neither does the map, so you'd be following the rules of the map.

There is no real strategy in money maps. You can't micro 100 goons. That's technically impossible. You can't take a few goons and make them magically back up and walk through the goons behind it. The only thing that dertimines the fate of the people playing a money map is with what they build. That's it. And since 99.9% of newbies play money maps, you wouldn't expect any good players playing it, unless they were in a comp stomp backstabbing. Now 7v1 comp stomps, is just extremely censored.gif ing cheap. Seriously, if they wanted free wins they could have just used a win bot program. It's important for backstabbers to backstab in those games to prevent mass wins from being distributed. It's like the way of life, and can not be changed. closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-02-14 at 10:19:23
QUOTE(Ðeathknight @ Feb 13 2005, 10:25 PM)
With all those minerals in a money map, no scouting, and no expanding, you should be able to win in less than 5 minutes.

No rush isn't a rule, if you join a game saying "NR", rush them anyway. Blizzard did not implement a no rush rule, and neither does the map, so you'd be following the rules of the map.

There is no real strategy in money maps. You can't micro 100 goons. That's technically impossible. You can't take a few goons and make them magically back up and walk through the goons behind it. The only thing that dertimines the fate of the people playing a money map is with what they build. That's it. And since 99.9% of newbies play money maps, you wouldn't expect any good players playing it, unless they were in a comp stomp backstabbing. Now 7v1 comp stomps, is just extremely  censored.gif ing cheap. Seriously, if they wanted free wins they could have just used a win bot program. It's important for backstabbers to backstab in those games to prevent mass wins from being distributed. It's like the way of life, and can not be changed.  closedeyes.gif
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Thats a good point, most people just tell all 50 archons or carriers to just attack the center of the base, i havent played a mineral map in so long now, i think im going to so i can bs someone, lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-02-15 at 15:09:05
Besides, what would be the point of moving the goons back anyway if the enemy units are randomly attacking your units? When you move them back(if it's even possible), that would be your disadvantage because those goons will have less shots on the enemy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-02-15 at 18:23:31
lol that signature rocks, but tell me, where is that picture from? i think i remember it... ebaums world?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by sckor on 2005-03-02 at 04:52:44
I don't play money maps... but.. then

Money maps, also do require strategy. it's just that no one bothers to think or care about it.
Melee maps, were since the beginning of starcraft, so it obviously has been played more. You can have more strategies in normal maps, because none has been thought of that might be effective in muhan maps.

NOw, progamers, play like 20 games a day....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Puni(F) on 2005-03-02 at 07:12:07
I would only play regular melee map's, The fast map's don't take any skill, And about 30 minutes the whole map will be maxed...And evrey one will be massed carriers,Bc's,Etc
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-03 at 10:45:50
i agree with sckor, money maps take skill, because the other players have tons of money too, so you have to find away to get better units faster. Im not saying microing skill or expanding, but its a different kind of skill and people like it.
i love regular map so much, i used to play money maps and i hate them now, i played a game and basically won with 3 zealots (non-money map). i microed passed thier hydras(i tricked them to follow my worker, that player literally went across the map chasing it), and i killed all thier workers before they got thier hydras back. that didnt win me the game, but it did paralize them and in the meantime i build a few goons and won the game. thats what Starcraft is about.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-03-03 at 19:18:34
Money maps r fun and stuff but i only use them for things like comp stomps... a true good player wouldn't need stacked minerals to win... pinch.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-03 at 19:53:36
warhammer, if someone plays a money map, it doesnt mean they need those minerals to win, plus, everyplayer has the same amount, so its even.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FaZ- on 2005-03-06 at 00:41:41
QUOTE(Yenku @ Feb 15 2005, 06:23 PM)
lol that signature rocks, but tell me, where is that picture from? i think i remember it... ebaums world?
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See my signature

Millenium you talked about some of the aspects of StarCraft that LT takes away. Care to let us know what the hell you are talking about? Thats purely fiction.

Backstabbing is a good thing to me because it can be used to teach players to play real maps. It can be better to simply join a game and tell people to play on a real map against each other, which suprisingly often works, and turns out to be a fair game too because the level of skill of players in comp stomp games is fairly similar.

NR20 -- As to what Deathknight said he is being an ignorant fool and playing without any kind of morals and playing just to pick up cheap wins. If you are playing in a game with the name NR20, it is assumed that you have the intelligence to read and the common decency to obey. If someone wants to play a NR game, then I will always wait the length of time. Handy crashing programs painfully teach lessons to those who lack integrity and wish to break the rules established by the host.

Now, to the issue. I think that regular melee maps are much better, but money maps can be fun as well. First of all, it is quite simple to win a money map if you are a good player and just turtle a bit and rush a reaver or tank/siege to enemy main and take out his miners/gas. this sets back a player for quite a bit of time, and with a force of zealots/dragoons you can usually easily take out a player that is so crippled. The key is quickness, of course. Money maps can be fun among friends or as a change to strategy intensive regular maps or micro intensive UMS maps.

Of course, regular melee is and shall forever be where the true competition and most strategic style of StarCraft can be played.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by sckor on 2005-03-06 at 03:14:41
QUOTE(Puni @ Mar 2 2005, 09:12 PM)
I would only play regular melee map's, The fast map's don't take any skill, And about 30 minutes the whole map will be maxed...And evrey one will be massed carriers,Bc's,Etc
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QUOTE(warhammer40000 @ Mar 4 2005, 09:18 AM)
Money maps r fun and stuff but i only use them for things like comp stomps... a true good player wouldn't need stacked minerals to win... pinch.gif
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Now... Once you have maxed, you need to unit control right? The whole point of playing starcraft isn't maxing, and just sending them.



On the other hand, who said a good player would needed no stacked minerals to win/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-07 at 10:04:59
faz, thanks for showing me the truth, thats the real signature.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by best.sock on 2005-03-07 at 14:12:11
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NR20 -- As to what Deathknight said he is being an ignorant fool and playing without any kind of morals and playing just to pick up cheap wins. If you are playing in a game with the name NR20, it is assumed that you have the intelligence to read and the common decency to obey. If someone wants to play a NR game, then I will always wait the length of time. Handy crashing programs painfully teach lessons to those who lack integrity and wish to break the rules established by the host.


i have a feeling that deathknight doesn't care about wins on his record....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FaZ- on 2005-03-07 at 20:29:53
It's not the wins that matter to most people, it is the feeling of being superior. Thus enter hacks and other cheats to allow players to win. Even breaking obviously established rules in a friendly game is pathetic.
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