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Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-07-04 at 00:27:30
Sorry about the whole idenity theft thing, but after getting integreated into the SEN community it's been hard to avoid joining in on their jokes and such.

I kind of wish that I could self impose exile on myself sort of like you attempted to TT. But this is where I can hang out with my buddies to componsate for the fact that I have no life tongue.gif

Seriously though the maps in production page is more active then the concepts and ideas pages, so one person's fear about people just coming up with concepts and not acutally making maps is kind of invalid.

However the Anything Goes forum is far more active then almost the entire UMS section scared.gif
This is the problem TT speaks of.

About a solution...
I've got it! IP should just shut down the SEN server for about a week or two. This would force us to:
a. Find lives
b. Make maps
c. Program

I bet when SEN is put back up after those 2 weeks, RUSH will be releaced. Farty will have perfected autostacker, etc.
I acutally think that the person we will notice releacing the most maps over the summer will be Dragoon-elf. He is a friend of MA, who definatly manages to get maps releaced, he is banned from SEN so he has no distractions, he had an assortment of maps he planned to make over the summer, and he has made 3 or so maps in the past, including and RPG and such.

Ok, time to stop rambling (it's late, I never get anywhere late at night).
I think the main problem is that 4/5ths of the maps posted in the maps in production thread don't get releaced.
This is becuase most of them are big RPGs, and when the makers actually get down to the triggers, they crash and burn. [/unsupported theory]
My project should fix this.... Muahaha! (seriously I have a project which should help with this).

I really need to go to sleep.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-04 at 00:33:56
QUOTE
Seriously though the maps in production page is more active then the concepts and ideas pages, so one person's fear about people just coming up with concepts and not acutally making maps is kind of invalid.


No, the concepts used in the maps suck and aren't carried out well. I for one never said there aren't maps in production.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-04 at 00:35:33
A call for maturity eh? Tough luck tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fortune on 2005-07-04 at 06:34:07
Fortunately, the garbage forums were created for a reason. Unfortunately, people let the garbage they post exceed beyond the "walls" of this forum. ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-04 at 10:51:00
I know the forum is garbage, but that doesn't mean SPAM, some of the topics being created are just plain stupid and SPAM.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-07-04 at 11:32:19
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But, hey, Tux, if you've got that free time, let me know
I might after Rush, as it seems you guys could really use it. I'd have to hang around more regularily to be useful, though, which I might be able to do then.

Anyway, you're right about there being not a lot that can be done about general idiocy directly, but what we CAN do (and by 'we' I mean those of us who give a rap) is improve our own conduct, which would set an atmosphere of professionality more suited for a major mapping/modding site. I'd like to start seeing some of my friends who've been turned off from coming here have a change of heart.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2005-07-04 at 20:14:44
QUOTE(Ultimo @ Jul 3 2005, 05:13 PM)
I say we ban all the noobs and keep all the elitests, that way, our map ratio goes from 1:100 to 1:25 and our average rises to 16.
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damn, im only 14 so i'd bring it down a bit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-07-04 at 21:57:58
What does age have to do with it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-07-04 at 23:10:05
Ya really.
I don't think age is linked to maturity as much as most people claim.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-07-04 at 23:11:35
It isn't. I don't care if your 8, it just matter on maturity. Of course MOST 10 year olds would be immature, there are sure some very mature ones!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-04 at 23:11:44
It's just a stereotype. Like all stereotypes there are exceptions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fortune on 2005-07-05 at 07:01:24
I had an over-sized schlong at the age of 8. pinch.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-07-05 at 09:18:32
What?!?!?! This site was created to help people?!! I did not know that. I call it blasphemy, we kill the noobs at dawn.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-07-05 at 09:51:12
Im all 4 growing up, but this Is the anything goes forum, as everyone else says. People are serious in the 12 i think.. map making or modding forums. Anything goes is just public chat hosted by Staredit.net.
sly.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-07-06 at 01:05:20
I agree with the tuxlar, the site is filled with n00bs. While have only three or so green bars (comparatively n00bish) I don't think Ive ever been immature, except maybe for my first week or so at SEN. The site is overflowing with newbs and especially in the serious diescussion and garbage forum, flaming/spam/general immaturity is king. It really saddens me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-07-06 at 01:32:01
Our garbage forum is a lot cleaner than ICL's. It's just patheticly sad what they allow in their trash forums. I really haven't seen anyone else's off-topic forums as of late, but I'll try to keep a watch out for the ungodly retarded topics.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-07-06 at 01:36:12
*COUGHWord Association! (Heheh... Competition.. gotta hate em)


Meh... Its better than some forums, like IP said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-06 at 07:24:46
You gyus expect too much of the people on these forums. Think about it, theres barely any ideas left to use. If someone could maybe re-do golems, and make it more complex, lots of people would get in on making that map perfect, therefore if you get a new idea, share it, then everyone's gonna have their own version of that idea and everyone else will be playing something different everytime they join "Golems Re-Vised" hah
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-07-06 at 08:02:19
All very good points. We're willing to always take more suggestions.

I have been considering to change the meaning of "garbage forum" for a while anyway. To what, I do not know.

The problem is, most of this immaturity comes from certain people being jealous, angry at someone whos a part of the site (which is really stupid in the first place, since you're not punishing the person at all), or people who come on thinking that the internet is a wonderful place of where no one knows who you are and you want to mess around with people and waste their time (plus your own, for some sad, stupid reason).

It is parially my fault, I've always had a bit of fun while running the site from the beginning with a random joke here and there, and some people take it to the edge.

The real question is, how do we solve it?

ADDITION:
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Jul 6 2005, 01:32 AM)
Our garbage forum is a lot cleaner than ICL's.  It's just patheticly sad what they allow in their trash forums.  I really haven't seen anyone else's off-topic forums as of late, but I'll try to keep a watch out for the ungodly retarded topics.
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We shouldn't be comparing ourselves to them. The theme of their website is robbing people of having their own kind of fun in a game they paid their money on.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-06 at 08:07:19
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Jul 6 2005, 05:02 AM)

The problem is, most of this immaturity comes from certain people being jealous, angry at someone whos a part of the site (which is really stupid in the first place, since you're not punishing the person at all), or people who come on thinking that the internet is a wonderful place of where no one knows who you are and you want to mess around with people and waste their time (plus your own, for some sad, stupid reason).
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Hah, I must admit, I love messing with people, but I'd say my definition of being mature is know the right thing to do at the right time. We all get a little mischievious but the "immature" people just forget when to quit. A little hammer would fix all that wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-07-06 at 13:19:24
QUOTE(Parthx86 @ Jul 6 2005, 06:24 AM)
You gyus expect too much of the people on these forums. Think about it, theres barely any ideas left to use. If someone could maybe re-do golems, and make it more complex, lots of people would get in on making that map perfect, therefore if you get a new idea, share it, then everyone's gonna have their own version of that idea and everyone else will be playing something different everytime they join "Golems Re-Vised" hah[right][snapback]254501[/snapback][/right]
ARG STOP TOURTURING ME ABOUT MY ABANDONED PROJECT! Must not abandon current project for old one!
The ideas I had for it were so nice... the only problem was that I made the horrible mistake of not making it from scratch... :Þ
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-06 at 13:33:57
QUOTE(EzDay2 @ Jul 6 2005, 10:19 AM)
ARG STOP TOURTURING ME ABOUT MY ABANDONED PROJECT! Must not abandon current project for old one!
The ideas I had for it were so nice... the only problem was that I made the horrible mistake of not making it from scratch... :Þ
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I have my own half-made golems-revised sitting in "Incomplete Maps", dont worry. Sometimes I just get waaaaaaay too lazy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-07-06 at 14:00:15
Except mine was better then yours. tongue.gif

I stopped it:
a. I stopped playing starcraft for the next 1.5 years
b. I made it in staredit and was n00bish at map making
c. I uses someone elses map as a base for my map, and the map I used as a base had horrible triggers
d. I relized that becuase of c it would take just as long to make the map from scrach with my newfound skillz then it would take to do the repetitive triggers needed to finish the map in it's current state

Back then I didn't even know what a death count was pinch.gif
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