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Right. Lets take away taxes that are suposidly supposed to be helping out our defacit and see where that gets our country.

You sound like a hardcore capitalist, one that thinks that america should be even MORE capitalist. No taxes is like.......how is the government gonna get money?

The government wouldn't be a State, so it would get money no differently than from other businesses.

edit: I should clarify that the "government" would be a collection of competing private businesses.

You are a down right fool. That would throw out our entire consitution. The companies would become the government. They would be able to buy police stations, fire departments. And then there could be wars between companies. Companies would be able to create their own countries, our country would be divided like hell. 100% Capitalism is as stupid as 100% Communism.

If this does happen, I can sense a revolution happening which would then make our country the way it was, or make it socialist to help keep the balance.

That would be ridiculous. You'd end up with a corporate police state full of people who are forced to consume. The State is what keeps the companies in line - we need it.

1 company and 1 name:
Enron, Bill Gates. 'nough said.

Right now, the State is an artificial entity that has two unique traits:

• It has a self-given monopoly on the right to initiate the use of force.
• It does not allow other governments to compete with it.

This country would be much better off if private businesses were allowed to compete for the consumers' dollar when it comes to government functions. There are already some similar functions that private businesses do, namely in the realm of security (body gaurds, home systems, etc.).

Hate, if the companies ran the show, THERE WOULD BE NO AMERICA. It'll have almost nothing incommon with it, except the name. And ALSO, companies would get so big they would be the ONLY COMPANY PERIOD. So basically, they WILL BE the government. Be like a dictatorship. You don't buy their products, or follow their rules, into the slammer for you. And they could even TAX people. Basically getting rid of the whole point of you doing it in the 1st place.

My god hate, you have said the most retarded thing ever. No taxes? Absolute power to companies? Omg.

There is a great risk of one company gaining a monopoly though, and then using force to repress competitors and consumers. There would be no code of law, so anything goes.

Monopolies are impossible in a free market. Your conspiracy is rediculous.


Also, a funny thing I've noticed about you is your desire to keep things as they are: to "preserve America". Since when were you a nationalist?


btw: I'm gonna have to change my avatar, but keep the text. I hate having a :censored:ing swastika there.

Everyone, this is proof right here. Hate can't admit he's wrong, and he thinks everyone against him is a fool. Seriously.

I'm only a nationalist when it comes to preserving the constitution. I have respect for that. You don't need to be a nationalist to know that this is down right stupid. And how it will basically turn us right into a full blown dictatorship. Hate, do you actually think that they will follow the constition? Do actually think they will follow ANY rules, except their own?

Hate, Monopolies USED to exist in America. (There might be some monopoly that exists in america that I don't know about) Until the 1st roosevelt slapped them. With this, who's gonna boss around the companies? The other companies right? Right?

WRONG:
They will eventually get rid of their competion, and have a complete monopoly going on, and use whatever rules they want. There will be no free market.

Monopoly = ≥ 60% control of the market.

Microsoft has a monopoly, and I thought everyone knew that.

A free market doesn't necessarily remain free.

Rockefeller and gang became monopolies because of government help. They even used the anti-trust laws in their favor: in his quest to be a monopoly, he would buy up competing refineries and then not use them to keep supply low and prices high. This eventually got extraordinarily expnsive, and he could not compete with other smaller companies' lower prices. He declared that they were employing "cut throat prices" in competition with him.


Also, the idea of a corporation is not capitalist. However, you are probably one of the people that use it as a synonym for "business", so you wouldn't understand why.

So exclusive control is 60%? I thought it was like 80-90%

Doesn't matter, that company would have a 100% control on our country.

Microsoft is not a monopoly. It is not against the law to compete with them (and there are competitors).

edit: typo

How does that support your argument? Connect the dots for me, cause I can't see any.



Hate, you don't get the message yet. And if you are, you're trying to deflect it and change the subject onto this microsoft thing.

I believe that the economics term for a monopoly (or de facto monopoly) is 60% control of a market.

Microsoft has that and more.

Hate, let me get something straight.

Do you think monopolies are good or bad?

You're stupid then; there is no way around it.

He used "anti-trust" cut-throat-pricing laws to force his competitors from knowcking him out of businesses. It was because of the very laws meant to stop monopolies that enabled him crush his competition.

ADDITION:


They are aweful. The State included. How do you feel about the State?

oooooo, he found a loop hole in the american law system over 100 years ago. Oh, I guess that supports your claim to make the government be based on companies competing against each other.

The only monopoly I can stand, is the government. And that's as long as they follow some rules. (Constitution) These companies, would have no rules to follow.

So for a person that hate monopolies, you're economic plan for America, is the most monopoly inviting one I've ever heard of.

No. Give me one example of a monopoly that was not supported by the State. One.

Your refusal to do this is suspect.

Communism was supposed to be more philosophical than political...

Can't y'all go find a chat room for this, ahem, debate, instead of the forums?

ADD: or a paintball court.

That only supports a reason why I'm socialist. Really big companies can influence the government via lobbyists. Not my fault corruption exists.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The State is the ajudicator - the entity that tries to prevent coercive monopolies from existing. Without it - there would be no free market capitalism. I think that it's nice to know that it's there, ready to clamp down on monopolisers.

See that hate? If there's no goverment, monopolies would be everywhere. So if you hate monopolies, you have to hate your economic plan, unless you're a stubburn fool.