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If that happens, then no one will ever know that the technique exists, and there is no point in having it. This site exists for the purpose of collectively enhancing the fun in our maps.

Actually, if you're going to argue this, you're saying that SC revolves around you mapmakers. Melee is dominant compared to UMS and you don't realize how this community continued to upset the melee community forcing another patch to come out. They have more reason to be upset than you guys do.

Isn't PenguinPlug illegal?

Allright, just to clear one thing up, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to make EUDs work on macs. Get over that. The only way EUDs would have worked on macs is if blizzard had completly redesigned the mac. The problem wasn't in the sc game for the mac, but in the mac itself. Stop asking why they didn't patch it to work on them; just because we may have discovered the impossible for map making does not mean that blizzard can do its own impossible feat.

I don't think that there is at least 1 real reason for melee players to be upset. EUD does nothing to melee.

Please let's keep this from becoming a UMS versus melee battle again. That's a pointless thing to argue on about and it does nothing usefull.

It's far more legal than the EUD's. EUD's were forced to be patched, I talked to a Blizz rep about Penguin Plug and BWChart, he says that "while they're 3rd party programs, they cause no harm to the game nor the players playing the game, we're more worried about the other hacks and whatnot"



Well, all 1.13a replays are now corrupted thanks to the new patch and we have to wait for BWChart and PenguinPlug to be updated because of the new patch.

well at least keep it inside SEN communitie.
Man i was hoping to see a new RPG where u could change ur weapons whitout actually change unit, having shields as a abilitye and...... well lot of stuffs that probably are already listed.

I never liked ued anyways, it ruined some arts of mapmaking, I say if you want stuff like that then leave it to the Mods and flashes.
It wasn't going to be too healthy for public maps anyways.

"SUPER UNIT MASS ATTACK!"
"SUPER UNIT DEFENCE!"
"SUPER UNIT BOUND!"

RPG hero gains every level:
gain hp/shields
gain upgrades (speed and range)
gain normal upgrades
gain damage and armor bonus
gains new weapons
new spells
new graphics
...

A perfect RPG

There will always be crappy maps. You can't stop that.
"SEXY PICS"
"PORN MOVIE"
"CYBER ZEXXX"

You can't stop crappy maps. EUD's, like all other mapmaking innovations, could have been used well to make entertaining and quality maps.

More like GENERIC rpg with some special parts added, many of you aren't seeing the big picture.

UED would have started the whole wave over again, bounds and mass attacks aren't as common now as they were before.
Plus, it's called a mod! They aren't gone ok? They are just pretty much "banned" from mapmaking.

That didnt make any sense.. u can set 9999 as a unit attack and it will b a SUPER UNIT, also there are so many retarded map that some ppl play and wont stop playin it, like Dont Move and these Crash games,

we should go spam blizzard forum since is like the first patch that is Directly to Ums players/mappers, and ya, maybe they did the "right", but they really should try to fix these h4x0rs comunitys / Bot Users etc... instead of a Map Makers Art or Technices, this is really sad and pointles...

7 of each 10 games that i play are Melee, im not mad against SEN or any of his member just beacuse i need to wait to Penguin plug to be updated, or cause now i have to use a different exe to watch my replys. I totally support SEN ,his members or any other people that find how to improve StarCraft even knowing that Blizzard is probably going to patch again, i think that most of Melee players agree whit these, also i think that there are lot of users that dont ever bother on saving replays or using Pennguin plug

You know no offence but you really are clueless.


EDIT: Clueless being mild compared to the angry words I have for you and whoever else who doesn't know anything about Blizzard's intentions.

Above.

Okay now Listen Up Melee People.
SEN Is Mostly For MAP MAKING UMS. It started for this, and it will end for this. Now you melee people are only Guest that have 2 Forum for you cause Yoshi was Nice enough to give you a small part only for you.
This Website is For UMS and not Melee.. So Melee Map maker Stop complaining and yelling about Replay and that Melee is Better than Ums...

Respect UMS.

this tread isn it About EUD, its about Blizzard launching a new patch to kill EUD read thread Name: Patch 1.13b

I'm horribly disappointed, as the possibilities were wonderful for EUD's. People who say they were fed up with it due to too many threads should just ignore the posts they didn't like. I think this was a wonderful thing that truly did open many doors and allowed a great deal of creativity within map-making. It wasn't illegal, and it appears not to be dangerous. Mac users are relatively small in number and other editors cause them problems as it is. I disagree with Blizzard's actions and with the complaints against EUD's levelled by the outspoken minority.
Having said that, I must agree with Yoshi. It is their game. They can do as they please. It's a shame, but we survived without those triggers before. There are still many possibilities with this fabulous game, and all the death threats in the world won't bring back the triggers we (as a majority) loved. Let's be mature, do whatever we like if we wish to continue using these triggers. I like the idea of BattleLAN
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=3760
It's sad to be sure, but let's not piss and moan.

We can always set up a FSGS (Free Standard Game Server) in protest

It feels great to say:

I TOLD YOU SO

Nice job corrupting all the replays and third party programs.

You told us it would ruin melee. Has it?

...
I had so many awesome ideas planned for this, even a system for quickly and accurately tracking ammo in the zombie- and the FPSstyle- games I was planning on creating...

EUD was a big nono in my book, many parts of it look horrible and its getting closer and closer to becoming the Wc3 editor. Quote "This is not WarCraft in space!"
It wasn't even that interesting, marines shoot goliath missles, woo!

When I said this was a security problem, I was called a retard by the UMS crowd.


Thanks for corrupting all of our replays and third party programs, Deathknight!

No one is saying melee is better than UMS, it's certainly more popular, but we're not making the distinction. This is a map making site, we should be just as welcome here as you are. There are a lot of programs that are having trouble updating with the frequent patches, ihatett and the rest of the melee community just want you to cool it.