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As you are all aware, EUDs have been taking the starcraft community by storm. People were thrilled and it brought new life into Starcraft and map editing. Blizzard has just released patch 1.13b, which the patch text states:

This is referring to EUD triggers. They have removed them from starcraft, so it is now no longer possible to do all the techniques that we were all exploring. This patch was specifically targeted for that purpose, because it appears that Extended players and other such things still exist. No support for these types of techniques was included into Staredit.

It is obvious that Blizzard saw this as too much of a security risk, or infact it was possible to make viruses. We may never know. All we know, is that the Starcraft Development team investigated this and saw this as a threat to Battle.net users.

How should we feel? As I said before, Disappointed but not vengeful. It is Blizzard's game, and they would not do this to ruin our fun, but to look out for our best interests. There is no point in quitting map making, because Blizzard preserved map making for us the way it was before. There is no difference. We hold no grudges.

I want to personally thank all the communities and people who came over here and united to explore this technique for the power of creativity. It has truly been a fantastic experience watching individuals of all types and experiences contribute to this.

I think Blizzard has been made aware of how strong the map making community is still after so many years after Starcraft's original release. Hopefully, this will be a step further to showing them that we too, want to see the Starcraft universe expand into another game, but not for the gameplay like 'Starcraft: Ghost', but for the map making.

2 Patches thanks to Death Knight... l'd like my 20 kilobytes back

I dont recall him causing another patch.

Oh yeah. StarCraft Ghost. Maybe we should start wondering whatever happened to that.

W.......T.......F!!!! I was about to use these for my upcoming campaign! Man this sux...

Starcraft Ghost as been selled to the compagny : Swingin' Ape Studios, which made the great game Metal Arms : Glitch In The System.

Link: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2004/00009555.htm
It's in french but it say all. Blizzard is working on something... Or they patch everything they can...

Wow, simply wow. There goes my last week of working on my EUD map.

Anyways, Blizzard did the right thing like it or not. They would have lost gamers due to EUD, plus, possible liability problems could have risen, Blizzard took time to look into this, I'm sure they made the right choice.

Oh well, it looks like people have to start being CREATIVE mapmakers again.

I posted a topic at blizzard. They should be concentrating on hacks instead of the 1/1000 way to crash maps. I should host 'hello desktop' 24/7 now, b****es

That is likely not the reason. They most probaly saw this as a security risk that can be downloaded in everyday maps, instead of some 3rd party hack.

People Calm down...
We will propably use: Extended Alliance Status.
We'll See and wait.

How would they have lost players? UMS players are thrilled, and this doesn't affect melee players.

Curses! Now I won't be able to watch .13A replays because I don't know how to rip an exe =( Anyone know?

So wait, your saying my map wasn't creative just beacuse it used EUD's? I personally take that as a direct insult. My map was just as much if not even more creative then most maps. It used a new method that hadn't been tried before in a creative and in my opinion, entertaining way. I would really like for you to explain how by my map using EUD's it is any less creative then any other map being made.

I would also like to know why they would have lost gamers. From my vantage point, EUD triggers have done the exact opposite and have brought many of my old mapmaking friends out of retirement to play with and to map with this new technology.

The only point I can agree with you on is the liability. But then again, EUD's are not any more harmful then extended units/players or regular unused units.

Melee players were still looking forward to maps like this.

ADDITION:
They can't lose players anyway. EUDs never got off fast enough.

Because, people don't want viruses from playing starcraft, ass. Not to mention Mac users would have no longer been able to play UMS. The list goes on...

Well, if you were working on a GREAT map using EUD's, why not still continue making to map for single-player, and just ask players who want to play your map download the 1.13a patch?

Wesmic:
1. You can't put a virus into a map. even with EUD.
2. Not every people can Use EUD.
3. Popular B.net map are Most of the time done with Xtra edit....so... mac don't crash for :poo:...
4. Mac Player are already limited to 10-12 game for the mac... so...they are a MINORITY.

Just patch to 1.13a and then copy paste the EXE and rename it Starcraft_113a.exe or something. Then patch it back to 1.13b.

http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/broodwar/patches/PC/

Mac users wouldn't be able to play EUD maps not all UMS. And so what? At least PC users can play EUD maps, the macs can still play regular UMS maps. IT is not fair to disable EUD just because macs can't use it. And I thought that viruses can't be transferred due these maps.

Small correction: that's only one reason.
First: find me a map with a virus in it. You can't do it. Using EUD's you can not make a virus. The memory locations you are limited to don't allow it. Even if you could go further with memory locations, I think you need to understand that viruses aren't just made form modifying a few memory locations. You could with enough sniffing be able to change maybe a few settings to open other vulnerabilities, but there is no way you could make a full out virus simply by using EUD triggers, even if the range was larger.

Once again though, I do agree with you about the mac issue, and that is one of the few valid reasons I can see for patching this.

Thanks but I already figured it out =D Though the link is helpful.

RIP EUD Triggers

1.13-1.13b

It's always the good who die young.

I didn't directly insult you or anyone else in any way.

If I'm correct people at this site (I've heard this from so many people), say that WC3 mapmaking sucks compared to SC mapmaking because the possibilities are endless and you can mod just about anything in WC3. Now that EUD comes along, it makes SC mapmaking almost exactly like WC3 mapmaking which, yet you guys love EUD's. I even remember some people saying that if we could do what was possible with WC3 on SC than mapmaking would become boring and pointless. The idiotic hypocrisy of some of you people never cease to amaze me.