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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-11 at 15:17:04
Oprah puts too much emphasis on celebrities to affect my opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-11-11 at 19:19:05
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A belt to the ass is not abuse.

Yes it is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-11 at 20:56:31
Five good lashings on the ass for doing something that was bad, is abuse?

Hmm... Sure taught me what to do, and what not to do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-11-12 at 14:10:08
You mean it shure tought you what your parents wanted you to do, in what I think, is an inappropriate manner.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-11-12 at 14:54:00
If you beat women, then you're a blam blam blam blam and you should be castrated.

Beating children, meh, stupid kids probably deserve it biggrin.gif If not then the above applies.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-12 at 15:33:15
QUOTE(GodDidIt @ Nov 12 2005, 02:54 PM)
If you beat women, then you're a blam blam blam blam and you should be castrated.

Beating children, meh, stupid kids probably deserve it biggrin.gif If not then the above applies.
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If you don't beat women you're a sexist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-13 at 03:51:43
QUOTE(Deathknight @ Nov 12 2005, 12:10 PM)
You mean it shure tought you what your parents wanted you to do, in what I think, is an inappropriate manner.
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It taught me what was right, and what was wrong. It taught me morals.

QUOTE(Syphon @ Nov 12 2005, 01:33 PM)
If you don't beat women you're a sexist.
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If you touch a woman in a harmful manner, you're a coward.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-11-13 at 04:06:36
QUOTE(Syphon @ Nov 12 2005, 01:33 PM)
If you don't beat women you're a sexist.
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But what if different types of people need different responses?
For example, say you have two sons: one weak and one strong, and they both backtalk you. So, you warn them, but you realize you are forced to use disciplinary action (your fist). Now, in order to get it through to your stronger son, you'll have to throw quite a wallop at him! Will you use the same amount of sheer power upon your much weaker son? If you don't, you're favoring one over the other! ohmy.gif

Case and point: You can't group kids into one category as "mindless young adults" as you seem to want to do. Each personality will respond to such actions differently. Sure, maybe corporal punishment is the way to go, but what about all the other personalities?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-13 at 15:40:38
I remember sometimes my sister would backtalk my mom and my mom would be like 'come here' and my sister would kinda hesitate, then my mom would make a little flicky pose (forefinger or middle finger sprung against your thumb). My mom has acryllic fingernails, so it'd hurt, if not make a big noise. My sister would squeeze her eyes shut and purse her lips inward in expectation for the pain, and my mom would crack out laughing because she couldn't look at that without laughing, and my sister wouldnt get 'thwapped'.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-11-13 at 17:20:47
What this topic is talking about is that this is right:


*boyfriend comes home from work*

*his girl friend complains about him tracking mud in cause its raining*

*the boyfriend hits the girl*


So, thats right? no, its not. You should only be able to hit a women in selfdefence.

Kids, they need to be punished, but not beatin for no reason.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rogue_Phoenix on 2005-11-13 at 17:38:39
No, violence is never the answer. Self defense, always justified, honor is what gets people killed. By showing "discipline" the way you do you are creating the next generation of goths. When your children grow up and become the resentful freaks that signify our generation blame yourself. When you hit your kid what do you think they're thinking? "wow my dad is such a great figure of authority and I should respect him more" or "but I though daddy loved me?....." or " I wonder how much lead would fit in daddy's body". Good parents take away their child's privileges rather than their right to the pursuit of happiness. As for women only in self defence, if someone hits me I hit them back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-13 at 19:29:30
QUOTE(Rogue_Phoenix @ Nov 13 2005, 05:38 PM)
No, violence is never the answer. Self defense, always justified, honor is what gets people killed. By showing "discipline"  the way you do you are creating the next generation of goths. When your children grow up and become the resentful freaks that signify our generation blame yourself. When you hit your kid what do you think they're thinking? "wow my dad is such a great figure of authority and I should respect him more" or "but I though daddy loved me?....." or " I wonder how much lead would fit in daddy's body". Good parents take away their child's privileges rather than their right to the pursuit of happiness. As for women only in self defence, if someone hits me I hit them back.
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When my dad smacks me upside the (and he's a big guy.) I think the figure of authority part.

You might want to look into becomeing a buddhist monk though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-11-13 at 19:51:35
To hit in anger is a natural response, but to calmly proceed with hitting them is just plain weird. The impact is alot worse then hitting simply in anger, (not proceeding to do more then once, either). To make a ritual out of it is just plain bizzare. I can understand "I was pushed really far and I lost my control and I smacked him" but not "He did this, so I told him to get my belt, bend over, and pull his pants down. I proceeded to hit him ten times."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-11-13 at 21:41:15
QUOTE(Zombie @ Nov 13 2005, 05:20 PM)
What this topic is talking about is that this is right:
*boyfriend comes home from work*

*his girl friend complains about him tracking mud in cause its raining*

*the boyfriend hits the girl*
So, thats right? no, its not. You should only be able to hit a women in selfdefence.

Kids, they need to be punished, but not beatin for no reason.
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Hitting a woman for a reason like that is W-R-O-N-G. I've been in a scuffle with my son's mom before, but that was to force her out of my house cuz she's a whore and a drug addict. I didn't actually hit her.

Discipline for kids is excusable, as I've said before. But not sensless beating. And I never strike my son more than once, just enough for him to get the point.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-14 at 17:55:25
QUOTE(Rogue_Phoenix @ Nov 13 2005, 03:38 PM)
No, violence is never the answer. Self defense, always justified, honor is what gets people killed. By showing "discipline"  the way you do you are creating the next generation of goths. When your children grow up and become the resentful freaks that signify our generation blame yourself. When you hit your kid what do you think they're thinking? "wow my dad is such a great figure of authority and I should respect him more" or "but I though daddy loved me?....." or " I wonder how much lead would fit in daddy's body". Good parents take away their child's privileges rather than their right to the pursuit of happiness. As for women only in self defence, if someone hits me I hit them back.
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Hmm.. You're saying that since my parents discaplined me with a belt to the ass when I did something really, really bad, I'm a goth? *Rolls on the floor laughing*

You must have the words Discipline and Abuse, mixed up.

" Good parents take away their child's privileges rather than their right to the pursuit of happiness"

What if their pursuit of happiness, is their privileges they have? What have you just done now, hmm?

QUOTE(Wilhelm @ Nov 13 2005, 05:51 PM)
To hit in anger is a natural response, but to calmly proceed with hitting them is just plain weird. The impact is alot worse then hitting simply in anger, (not proceeding to do more then once, either). To make a ritual out of it is just plain bizzare. I can understand "I was pushed really far and I lost my control and I smacked him" but not "He did this, so I told him to get my belt, bend over, and pull his pants down. I proceeded to hit him ten times."
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So you're saying that because I did something really horrid (I used to when I was smaller. I was a hellion) and I got hit on the ass with a belt (I had my pants on stil) that my parents are bad and evil because it taught me what to do, and what not to do?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-16 at 15:53:10
That's people's problems, they cant see the difference between abuse and dicipline...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-18 at 23:11:56
It's because the general population is full of retards.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2005-11-18 at 23:13:48
The funniest is parents thats shake their babies.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-19 at 11:07:45
How is that funny?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 00cnr on 2005-11-19 at 16:30:02
I'm agaisnt hitting children. Over all I believe it to be a bad way of parenting. There are many other ways of punishment that are more effective then beating. Children learn from their parents, if you beat your children the chances are that theye will beat their's.

Addition:
I think "spanking" is fine. It teaches small children what is right and wrong without being too violent. Usually (meaning what my parents did) spankings weren't hard but htye got the point across.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-11-30 at 01:53:55
No way... if you beat up Children, that's Child Assault, if you beat up a Woman, that's either Sexual Assault or a regular assault.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-30 at 15:51:20
Did you know, legally, a guy can not be raped. It's considered sexual harrasment/assault, but not rape.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Raindodger on 2005-11-30 at 17:42:07
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Physical Abuse

All States and territories provide definitions for physical abuse. The term is generally defined as any nonaccidental physical injury to the child, and can include striking, kicking, burning, or biting the child, or any action that results in a physical impairment of the child.


Belting your child = Abuse. Even if you don't believe it was, we're not saying your parents are "evil and mean" we're saying that they may sometimes handle situations wrong (not saying you didn't deserve it).

lol..burning.."You crashed the car..you are the DEVIL! Jesus wants you to BURN in hell" *Get's lighter*...

@Kow

are you serious, what if one of those freaking huge girls "sexually assaulted" me. OMG that sux.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-30 at 19:22:09
I'm just saying. Say, for some odd reason, there was this really hot girl who was having sex with you, against your will ( I never said it'd be probable). It's legally not rape for you. However, if you did the same to her, she could file for rape.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-11-30 at 21:49:46
QUOTE(Kow @ Nov 30 2005, 12:51 PM)
Did you know, legally, a guy can not be raped. It's considered sexual harrasment/assault, but not rape.
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Sexual Assault is either hurting the other gender or that too.
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