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Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2005-11-08 at 20:09:31
Well, there alot of people have their own opinions. Whats yours?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-11-08 at 20:56:06
well, it depends, if your child is being horribly crazy and is throwing knives around the house, you should stop him and knock the ---- out of him. If your child is misbehaving then just calm them down and tlak to them...


Only atack women if they are going to kill you or injure you badly...i think its wrong to hit women...hit them for self-defense only...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-08 at 20:57:02
Hitting women isn't wrong, it's called equal rights. Somehow society still frowns upon it. (Even the feminazis, who preach equal rights.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-11-08 at 21:15:42
I voted "Yes". Honestly, I've hit my son before and physically overpowered his mother in a fight (she hit me, but I didn't strike her... although I damn near did).

I was more idealistic when I was younger, but when I got older my ideas changed as I became more aware of my flaws. Sometimes my son laughs at me when I tell him "NO" or I tell him to stop doing whatever's he's not supposed to be doing. So I just smack him upside the head to establish my dominance. He needs to know how far I'll go to make him stop. I don't have to do it much anymore, because he rarely wants to tempt my patience. It's not something I'm proud of though.

And as for his mother... I tell ya... Some women are just like animals. Not all, of course. But tell me you wouldn't smack some of the women I've met before if they were making your life difficult year after year and I would declare you a saint. I do not regret any alleged mistreatment when dealing with her.

I'm not trying to sound like a bully. I'm not mean just to be mean. I'm definitely not abusive. It's not like I get drunk and beat on people. But we're all human and mixing anger with the need to discipline can have adverse affects sometimes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-11-08 at 21:23:56
beating is unnecessary if you know how to be a good parent and husband
if your wife starts hitting you for a good reason, you deserve it
if your child acts badly, you werent a good enough father

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-11-08 at 21:28:57
QUOTE(o-0 @ Nov 8 2005, 09:23 PM)
beating is unnecessary if you know how to be a good parent and husband
if your wife starts hitting you for a good reason, you deserve it
if your child acts badly, you werent a good enough father
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Don't judge someone on something like this without knowing more about the situation. FYI, she hit me because I wouldn't let her see our son because she was a drug addict and a prostitute. So physically wrestled her out the door. Also, I don't "beat" my son if you consider beating to be something like pounding someone until they bruise or bleed. I've only done it a few times and it was only enough to sting.

If I were your age, I would've said the same thing. But when you get older and live a little, you'll understand perfectly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-11-08 at 21:35:15
QUOTE(Syphon @ Nov 8 2005, 08:57 PM)
(Even the feminazis, who preach equal rights.)
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It's hilarious to me that feminists preach equal rights. Aren't they sort of contradicting themselves with all the sexism towards men. I think women are have enough rights, if not a lot more than men. If women can boss men around and hit us, then I think I should be able to do the same. I honestly don't think women should be aloud to vote. Well, at least it should only count as half a vote. Women have a lot more rights now than they ever have, so why do they need more than even men? If women ran the world, we'd still be searching for the wheel. There hasn't been an important woman yet, doubt there ever will be.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-11-08 at 21:38:26
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Nov 8 2005, 09:35 PM)
It's hilarious to me that feminists preach equal rights.  Aren't they sort of contradicting themselves with all the sexism towards men.  I think women are have enough rights, if not a lot more than men.  If women can boss men around and hit us, then I think I should be able to do the same.  I honestly don't think women should be aloud to vote.  Well, at least it should only count as half a vote.  Women have a lot more rights now than they ever have, so why do they need more than even men?  If women ran this country, we'd still be searching for the wheel.  There hasn't been an important woman yet, doubt there ever will be.
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Amen. Another thing that bugs me to death with the feminized country is that feelings are more important than facts. Or equality is more important than reason. Or children are more important than anyone else. Women have their purpose, but when it comes down to effective decision making, they seem to have a weakness.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-11-08 at 21:40:55
Furthermore, if you would make a list of the 100 most important or powerful people of all time, would there even be any women in the list?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-11-08 at 21:51:59
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Nov 8 2005, 09:40 PM)
Furthermore, if you would make a list of the 100 most important or powerful people of all time, would there even be any women in the list?
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Maybe Oprah, lol!

Speaking of Oprah, don't let her sway your opinions on women. You should make your judgements based on the ones you meet rather than the feminist brain washing that's gripping the country today.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-11-09 at 02:35:46
No I don't think it's right to hit your children there are recreational ways to handle children that laugh when you say no but maybe your just too tired to do it I don't know.

Also to wesmic and doodan, do you really think the reason why there hasn't been many important women in history is because they aren't smart or put too many emotions in decisions? Well, just consider that they had very little privilages than men throughout human history; I'm too tired to type more I'll just wait till you decide to challange this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-11-09 at 03:26:26
QUOTE(lonely_duck @ Nov 9 2005, 02:35 AM)
No I don't think it's right to hit your children there are recreational ways to handle children that laugh when you say no but maybe your just too tired to do it I don't know.

Also to wesmic and doodan, do you really think the reason why there hasn't been many important women in history is because they aren't smart or put too many emotions in decisions?  Well, just consider that they had very little privilages than men throughout human history; I'm too tired to type more I'll just wait till you decide to challange this.
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There's a difference between DISCIPLINE and ABUSE here.

I didn't say that was how I normally handled things. There have only been a handful of cases where I hit him, but it wasn't serious. I didn't use much strength or anything, kind of like the way you'd pop a dog that won't stop barking. They were more like slaps. I've never actually made a fist. Just enough to make my point to him. But I admit, they mostly did coincide with times where I was frustrated about other things as well.

But humans have used physical punishment on their kids for thousands of years. Animals have been doing it for several million years. It's really only become "bad" since the late 60s when the youth started to speak up and make their opinions known to the mainstream. But there's a reason why kids and teens weren't encouraged to voice their opinions too much before then: They don't know anything! All the youth has is strong feelings and opinions without much actual knowledge or experience in life.

But there were some adults who couldn't ignore the cries of the kids, so laws have been made to try and quell it. Technically, it is illegal to even physically restrain a kid nowadays. DHS can jump down your throat for just holding your kid down! I believe this, along with most of the privaleges of the juvenile detention system, have only encouraged the uprise in BAD behavior among the youth of the last 40 years. It gives kids an unhealthy and WRONG understanding of cause and effect. They become conditioned to the relaxed punishment systems that the law provides them because of their age. Although they can logically comprehend the idea of more severe punishment as an adult, they don't believe it at their core because of what the current system has conditioned them to. They get used to doing whatever the hell they want until they turn 18 and BAM! they're doing serious time or they've lost something personal to them because of their behavior.

But I'll tell you this: I have a great amount of respect for my parents. They resorted to physical punishment with me a few times. They proved that no matter how mad or rowdy I got, a power that's greater than me would put a stop to it, no matter how much I hated it at the time. It established mental boundaries in me that I owe much of my personal success to today. I know that I must earn my rewards and I know that there are lines which I cannot cross. That's all I'm trying to establish with my son. His mother believed in placing almost no limits on him, and now she's addicted to crack and the street life. That's what the negative end of the discipline spectrum looks like.

Personally, I believe there should be stricter punishment for kids and teens. But I don't make the laws. I think ABUSE is wrong. But there's a difference between it and DISCIPLINE, and I think it takes a little time to fully understand that.

Oh and as far as women go... I used to belong to the club of suckers that thought about how bad women have it how they're really the stronger gender or whatever. But then I noticed how much better they respond to you and respect you when you objectify them. Also, when women are trying to become "stronger", they usually mean they want to become more like men. Kinda like kids again, they want the perks of male adulthood without the drawbacks. When the female gender changes this, then maybe I'll respect them more (but my mom is teh roxxor).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-11-09 at 14:11:32
I voted no because there isnt a Sometimes catagory I agree about the Equal rights thing that you can hit a women if she does hit you first I hate how people say equal rights but the rights dont extent to the bad parts of equal rights (This isnt just about Men and Women equal rights) And if your kid is whack than give him a whack. Timeout doesnt do censored.gif stop the problem the kid just sits there thinking of other ways to piss his parents off or something if he or she is really enraged
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-11-09 at 14:36:26
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I voted no because there isnt a Sometimes catagory I agree about the Equal rights thing that you can hit a women if she does hit you first I hate how people say equal rights but the rights dont extent to the bad parts of equal rights (This isnt just about Men and Women equal rights) And if your kid is whack than give him a whack. Timeout doesnt do  censored.gif stop the problem the kid just sits there thinking of other ways to piss his parents off or something if he or she is really enraged
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Good, I think you agree with me on this. I don't think abusing women/kids is the right thing to do. But sometimes physical punishment is called for.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-11-09 at 14:47:18
Yeah I do agree with you these alternative timeouts are bull censored.gif I never had to take a time out I got spanked.
In my opinion Timeouts do nothing more than make the child sit in a chair. If he gets spanked that pain tharapy will remind him not to do that again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-11-09 at 15:04:34
Kids have it too easy today. No wonder they don't know how to behave and we have all these problems. If they're your kids then you should be able to beat them. Also, child labor laws have to be the most idiotic laws ever. If kids want to put in some hard work for cash, then they should be able to. If they don't want to, then they don't have to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-11-09 at 15:08:19
i voted kids only.


Hitting women is wrong. you should only be allowed to do it if they are going to strike you or attempt to murder you. other than that no, it should be allowed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-11-09 at 15:24:22
What is so much better about hitting a 10 year old than a 30 year old? if anything hitting a women would be better than hitting a child because you could hurt the child alot easier than a women
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-09 at 15:40:49
I agree with Doodan on all his views. Children should get a good whack every now and then. Instill in them the power of the parent. Warn first, maybe a slight squeeze of the hand if you've a hold of it, then you swack them. Not too hard, enough to smart, but not leave any marks. Take away anything they love to do (E.g. TV, Computer, Video Games, ability to leave the house). They'll reform. Trust me, 'tis how I was raised, and I'm all for it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-09 at 16:16:24
QUOTE(Syphon @ Nov 8 2005, 06:57 PM)
Hitting women isn't wrong, it's called equal rights. Somehow society still frowns upon it. (Even the feminazis, who preach equal rights.)
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It is wrong you stupid doo doo head.

If they are beating you, grap a hold of their shoulders, and shake the shiz out of them like Chris Rock says.

Much better alternative to hitting the opposite sex -_-

QUOTE(o-0 @ Nov 8 2005, 07:23 PM)
beating is unnecessary if you know how to be a good parent and husband
if your wife starts hitting you for a good reason, you deserve it
if your child acts badly, you werent a good enough father
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Uh... You must not be very smart.

I get hit by my wife because I disagree with her, and won't let her do something horribly wrong, and bad that will hurt her? And I deserve it???

If my child acts badly, i'm not a good enough father eh? My son starts doing drugs, and I talk to him about it, and tell him al my experiences with them, and how bad they are, and they still continue to do them. Does that make me a bad father? Hell no you idiot!

You cannot control your childrens actions, or behavior without making them fear you. Once they fear you, you are no longer a good father -_-

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Nov 8 2005, 07:35 PM)
It's hilarious to me that feminists preach equal rights.  Aren't they sort of contradicting themselves with all the sexism towards men.  I think women are have enough rights, if not a lot more than men.  If women can boss men around and hit us, then I think I should be able to do the same.  I honestly don't think women should be aloud to vote.  Well, at least it should only count as half a vote.  Women have a lot more rights now than they ever have, so why do they need more than even men?  If women ran the world, we'd still be searching for the wheel.  There hasn't been an important woman yet, doubt there ever will be.
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Very sexist of you Wes, very sexist. And judging by how you're saying, " If women ran the world, we'd still be searching for the wheel. There hasn't been an important woman yet, doubt there ever will be," you must not respect them, either.

Hmm... Maybe you're talking about the Feminists.......

Anyways.. There are important women, men are just dominative over things. It's in males nature to do such things..

QUOTE(Doodan @ Nov 8 2005, 07:51 PM)
Maybe Oprah, lol!

Speaking of Oprah, don't let her sway your opinions on women. You should make your judgements based on the ones you meet rather than the feminist brain washing that's gripping the country today.
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Oprah is one stupid ass black blam. (No. I am not racist)

QUOTE(Kow @ Nov 9 2005, 01:40 PM)
I agree with Doodan on all his views. Children should get a good whack every now and then. Instill in them the power of the parent. Warn first, maybe a slight squeeze of the hand if you've a hold of it, then you swack them. Not too hard, enough to smart, but not leave any marks. Take away anything they love to do (E.g. TV, Computer, Video Games, ability to leave the house). They'll reform. Trust me, 'tis how I was raised, and I'm all for it.
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Hmm... I agree with you agreeing with Doodan ^_^

I voted no. Women and children do not deserve to be beaten.

I believe the only time you should ever hit a woman, is if your life is on the line. If she is slapping the shiz out of you, grab a hold of her and shake the shiz outa her! Don't physically harm them, because only pussies do that.

I bet i've been "beaten" more than anyone here.

When I was younger, if we disobeyed our parents, we would get a belt to the ass. Abuse? Far from it.

It's called Discipline. The only way to teach people something, is to have them do it, and reward or punish them for it. In most cases, it was punishment for me.

But guess what? I know how to raise kids correctly when I have them, because I look back at my childhood, and see what my parents had to do to make me the kind, gentle, lovable person that I am today.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-09 at 17:59:38
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Nov 9 2005, 03:16 PM)
It is wrong you stupid doo doo head.

If they are beating you, grap a hold of their shoulders, and shake the shiz out of them like Chris Rock says.

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Honestly, why? If someone hits me I'm going to hit them right back. Woman or not.

On a related note, I don't think it's Ok to start a fight with anyone.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-09 at 19:52:58
Let's put this into a scenario:

Your father comes up and hits you. You hit him back?

Your brother comes up and hits you. You hit them back?

Your mother comes up and hits you. You hit them back?

Your sister comes up and hits you. You hit them back?
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Oh! So you're telling me, that if you were in the army, and your drill sergeant (However you spell that) hits you, you are going to hit him back?

Seriously man, you have issues. Even if you hit a girl back.



I hope we never meet in an alley.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-11-09 at 19:59:29
So someone could just be beating the censored.gif out of you but if it was a women you just have to let her give you a bloody nose or else your messed up?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-09 at 20:09:09
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So someone could just be beating the censored.gif out of you but if it was a women you just have to let her give you a bloody nose or else your messed up?
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What?

If you're asking me that, no. That is not the situation.

I believe when force is neccesary, to use it. But if a chick is beating the hell out of you, like I have said before, Grab her, and shake the hell out of her.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-11-09 at 20:12:33
I only support naughty-children whoopin'.

That psychiatry "talk with your children" blam wont work with me, buddy. You teach your kids the right way. Ever watch those reality shows? Ridiculous.
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