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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2005-11-24 at 09:22:21
I think that downloading songs from Limewire, Bearshare, WinMX, Morpheous, etc. is legal since you are sharing the music not selling them. Plus, why are you allow to burn CDs when you think downloading songs from the internet is illegal?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-24 at 11:32:54
I was never sure on this but I always thought p2p was legal, but actually USING some of the files you get are illegal.
I may be wrong, but meh.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe)r( on 2005-11-24 at 11:54:37
QUOTE(Jay_Spartan @ Nov 24 2005, 08:22 AM)
I think that downloading songs from Limewire, Bearshare, WinMX, Morpheous, etc. is legal since you are sharing the music not selling them. Plus, why are you allow to burn CDs when you think downloading songs from the internet is illegal?
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i used to use WinMX until it got shut down for file sharing. now i use limewire. my bro uses emule.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tmac on 2005-11-24 at 12:35:24
Has anybody here used Napster back in the day when it was free?

I did then one day it stopped working, they got sued.

Then I got WinMX, Limewire, Morpheus, now Bearshare.

Now i'm going to get Easynews but i'm going to have to wait a while since i'm sending money through the mail.

I crack programs and DL music all the time, do you think i'm going to waste a couple of hundreds on Photoshop? Heck no I got it for free!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe)r( on 2005-11-24 at 12:58:55
i used Napster WAY WAY WAY BACK. but it didnt dl very good. the songs always skipped. also how did u get photoshop free? can u send it to me? biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-24 at 13:35:59
I've cracked quite a few games....
At least over 20...
And for applications... smile.gif
Who needs to buy internet securities when you can DL it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe)r( on 2005-11-24 at 13:59:16
wat do u people mean by cracking games?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-24 at 14:03:54
I think what people mean is playing the game without the CD by DLing the game, or DLing an Image file... loading it onto a virtual drive... applying a patch/crack to the .EXE and playing the game... I've cracked files by BAT files though, so there are other ways to do it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-11-24 at 14:34:53
Pfft, who pays for stuff. closedeyes.gif Only n00bs do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe)r( on 2005-11-24 at 14:42:58
lmao, i only pay for stuff thats worth it, paying 700$ for photoshop is NOT worth it. paying 99 cents a song from itunes is NOT worth it. Getting music for free is Worth It.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2005-11-24 at 14:43:42
I love illegal downloading. I dont get why bands and singers are against it. Shouldnt they be happy that we wana lisen to their music. And I mean, come on, Your allready making millions of dollars a year. For programs I guess its more of a rip off because alot of companies depend on you buying their products. I doubt they're sueing people from Limewire.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-24 at 15:58:26
Wouldn't it suck if somebody here had the power to turn us in...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2005-11-24 at 16:10:26
QUOTE(Dorkhawk @ Nov 24 2005, 03:58 PM)
Wouldn't it suck if somebody here had the power to turn us in...
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Mini Moose, IP, or any of the mods acutally taht can see your IP Addreas could record it and contact the RIAAA. Then you'd all get sued, but normally people don't care and chances are almost everyone on this site uses some kind of illegal downloading method.

Downloading music, games, movies, or anything is illegal and really should be stopped. People who say it's like listening to it on the radio, the artists pay the station to play their music. They do it so that people will listen to it and buy their CD, but that's not the case now. Everyone just does it illegally. I use to have Kazaa, I stopped using it ebcause A. My dad found out it was illegal and B. I thought I should. The onyl thing I used Kazaa for was stuff that you can't get anywhere else. I can't get George Carlin cracking jokes in a show anywhere else. I never downloaded acutal music. I've bought all the music I want, or borrowed it from a friend. It's really annoying how when I go to the store and pay 50 bucks for Star Wars KOTOR I know that there's at least 5,000 people that already got it for free. Also artists aren't "greedy" to want to make money off what they made. What if I made an awesome video game that made game reviewing companies rate 11 out of 10 because it was so good but I didn't make a single cent. Peolpe will lose their pasion, new artists are very rare to see nowadays since all the good music they make they don't get any money off of since everyon DLs it illegally. I know everyone WANTS to dl stuff illegally, but you need to be fair, how can you enspire to talent to arrise when they already know the chances of them making any money from it are very low. They might as well become garbage collectors.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-24 at 16:16:05
I say if you're smart enough to crack games, go ahead, but buy music, music is relatively cheap.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-11-24 at 16:21:27
QUOTE(Golden-Moose @ Nov 24 2005, 04:10 PM)
I've bought all the music I want, or borrowed it from a friend. It's really annoying how when I go to the store and pay 50 bucks for Star Wars KOTOR I know that there's at least 5,000 people that already got it for free. Also artists aren't "greedy" to want to make money off what they made
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Hey, did you know that sharing a file or temporarily letting a friend using a game/movie is illegal? Its illegal because..yes, the greedy artists don't want you to get away by sharing or giving it to your friend, they want you/your friend to buy it individually.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2005-11-24 at 16:26:21
QUOTE(Aikanaro @ Nov 24 2005, 04:21 PM)
Hey, did you know that sharing a file or temporarily letting a friend using a game/movie is illegal? Its illegal because..yes, the greedy artists don't want you to get away by sharing or giving it to your friend, they want you/your friend to buy it individually.
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No it's not?
If you acutally met the person is different from sending 1 song to every single person who has the program (AKA 10,000 people) your basically selling it for free as your own content. Although you don't want to that's what the program does making it illegal. The only thing I think is stupid about the whole idea of copying CDs is that the RIAAA wants it so that I can't make backup copies of my own stuff. That's just retarded.
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I say if you're smart enough to crack games, go ahead

So if I'm smart enough to crack into the pentagon and launch missles at china then I can just go on ahead and do it right?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.SOLAR.oO on 2005-11-24 at 16:44:30
Yeah, it's definately a good way for people to promote their music if they're not famous. Also, I know a lot of old music that otherwise I'd never listen to unless there was filesharing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-24 at 17:22:16
QUOTE(KaboomHahahein @ Nov 21 2005, 08:08 PM)
Well they do get a lot of money but by downloading you are basically stealing their credit of the song and etc. Apparently in Canada you are allowed to download because the judge said it was like the same as borrowing a book from the library. My tech teacher said that is was apparently not illegal to download but illegal to upload files for others to download.
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Gawd, Canada rocks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-24 at 17:39:22
Are you trying to relate Blowing up China to downloading a free game?
I hope not.
I'm not taking anybodys lives, I'm taking money away from rich people.

Anyways, anybody know the punisment fine if you are caught?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-11-24 at 22:07:27
Why yes, yes I do...

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In the U.S.,  the online infringement of copyrighted music can be punished by up to three years in prison and $250,000 in fines. Repeat offenders can be imprisoned up to six years.


The U.S. is so messed up.

ADDITION:
On the topic of how fair it is to download music rather than buying it, I have this to say. Record Labels have started forcing band they employ (that is, have a contract with) to put freakish protection software on thier albums. Now, it's 'supposed' to protect the music from being distributed illegally. However, what it achieves is something very different.

A) Anyone who really wants to steal the music, with a bit of knowledge, can still crack it (in direct violation of the law, however).

B) People who just bought it and want to listen to it, cannot play the music unless they own the companies media player. For instance, when I bought "Healthy in Paranoid Times" it did not allow me to play it on my iPod, open any of the songs in iTunes, etc. I could only play it from the CD, and only on my computer. This is a total ripoff for a CD (that costs the company maybe 10 cents to make) that cost me $20, an already rediculous price. Obviously I was not happy. Had I bought the album on iTunes however (losing the shiny case) I would have been able to play it on my iPod... and likly, only my iPod.

This suggests labels are more interested in forcing you to buy their media players rather than protecting artists from having their music stolen.

Why should I pay for this? Bands make their real money from concerts (okay, okay, I don't know that for sure, but common, it's seems pretty accurate?). I still buy CDs, but I check to make sure there is no "Piricy Protection" bullshiz on it or I won't buy it. I've boycotted the purchase of all albums that have it.

Everytime there's an update for a program related to media files, I avoid downloading it if I can, because they often contain anti-piricy techniques that get in the way of legal activity as well.

Sorry about the rant, but record labels just seem to be shooting themselves in the foot.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by guardien on 2005-11-24 at 22:43:31
I always have my upload off on limewire, so I don't anything illigal, right? I only download songs that otherwise I could not find at a music story, or i just dont want to pay 20$ for a single song. I, by this count, have about 500-600 downloaded songs over 2 years. My friend has over 2500 in his first year. But I don't mind downloading videos, such as fan made videos of final fantasy, to make an example. It gives a place to demonstrate your creative skills for minimum moo-lah. I could also watch video i could not watch or buy, like old digimon episodes for my own pleasure. I have the whole series of gundam wing. But yet I did not upload anything. I know its wrong, but no one or nothing is standing in my way, so I'll take advantage while I can.

(sidenote) I really need a good ver. of photoshop, i've been sick to get one for years now, i wanna make my siggy!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hell_Pyro on 2005-11-24 at 22:52:47
You know you can download PC games on limewire?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-11-24 at 23:50:31
QUOTE(Dorkhawk @ Nov 24 2005, 05:39 PM)
Are you trying to relate Blowing up China to downloading a free game?
I hope not.
I'm not taking anybodys lives, I'm taking money away from rich people.

Anyways, anybody know the punisment fine if you are caught?
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Lol, Check the Legal threats the Pirate Bay has been sent. Including their responses lol.
http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-25 at 01:50:57
Limewire is below par for downloading games. You usually get tons of files that aren't seeded and are 857 kbs. They are all viruses.
For downloading large files, I suggest using torrents.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hell_Pyro on 2005-11-25 at 16:40:45
So, where can i find PC games to dl?
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