Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-29 at 01:08:29
QUOTE(PsychoTemplar @ Dec 27 2005, 10:58 PM)
You've only succeeded in making me feel more strongly about my side of the argument. I could argue for days with you and not get anywhere, so I'm ruling out that option.
However, I will say this, because I think you may find it somewhat useful.
You're born in a world with the odds stacked against you. The system is set up for the majority to succeed, and the minority to fail. Your parents live from paycheck to paycheck, barly getting by (working poor, ie: everyone in a ghetto). One unexpected expense and they are in debt. The debt's interest is only adding insult to injury. Your school supplies (books, pens, calculators, etc) are hard to come by, and all that you can achieve with all of this is a high school diploma. College is too expensive. Your high school diploma won't get you a better job. You work all day at ****ty minimum wage jobs. Your have become another working poor. Your only hope for wealth is an illict organization of drug trade (or to become a basketball player). You are the average black man born in America.*
Did you suffer these same odds? Did your parents? Did anyone in your prep kid neighborhood?
You're the one that needs to look **** up.
*Freakonomics: a Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything (Unabridged) by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner
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However, I will say this, because I think you may find it somewhat useful.
You're born in a world with the odds stacked against you. The system is set up for the majority to succeed, and the minority to fail. Your parents live from paycheck to paycheck, barly getting by (working poor, ie: everyone in a ghetto). One unexpected expense and they are in debt. The debt's interest is only adding insult to injury. Your school supplies (books, pens, calculators, etc) are hard to come by, and all that you can achieve with all of this is a high school diploma. College is too expensive. Your high school diploma won't get you a better job. You work all day at ****ty minimum wage jobs. Your have become another working poor. Your only hope for wealth is an illict organization of drug trade (or to become a basketball player). You are the average black man born in America.*
Did you suffer these same odds? Did your parents? Did anyone in your prep kid neighborhood?
You're the one that needs to look **** up.
*Freakonomics: a Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything (Unabridged) by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner
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I am? lmao. First off, id like to say stfu before you start crying, secound i dont really care about the average black man, its there problem not mine. That doesnt give them a excuse. Stop trying to defend some thing you cannot.
About the sex ed, like nerdy said its taught in school and there really cheap, blacks and mexicans are almost the same, the girls are always getting knocked up. Its there falt, Almost anyone can afford condoms, I've seen machines that require like a dolloar for a condom, seriously.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-29 at 01:28:35
Don't forget the free one's at the Health Department 
. Seriously, I don't think not using a condom is due to not being able to afford one, I think it's due to not wanting to use one, *hums to self*, doodoodoo...
. Seriously, I don't think not using a condom is due to not being able to afford one, I think it's due to not wanting to use one, *hums to self*, doodoodoo...Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-29 at 03:58:56
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I think it's due to not wanting to use one.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-29 at 11:58:44
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Explain your parents situation please. If they were working poor, there's no way they could escape without getting lucky. Explain how your parents got the money to move to, and buy a large apartment (four computers for a family of 3?) in the U.S. (New York, no less). Talk to your parents and ask them what they think about the working poor in the U.S. I can almost guarentee they have a lot more compassion for them than you do.
*Silver-Dragon yawns*
Family of four* (became five a week ago, though
)My brother broke one, but we did have 4. No, 5.. Dad got a new one.
I didn't say I don't have compassion for working poor in U.S.. This is about racism, not working poor. If you want to make a thread on that, you're welcome to do so. Almost everyone in america has a chance to go to school. Blacks are no exception. And the problem here is that they are the ones who are usually living in the ghettos and stealing things.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-12-29 at 13:56:29
PyschoTemplar, the moves the minority of blacks are making for the most part are hurting themselves. Sure, they're a minority, but look at all the other minorities in the USA, they're doing fine.(Most of them)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-30 at 18:28:20
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PyschoTemplar, the moves the minority of blacks are making for the most part are hurting themselves. Sure, they're a minority, but look at all the other minorities in the USA, they're doing fine.(Most of them)
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-30 at 18:58:55
Minorities feel they have to live up to their stereotypes. The United States is practically one big caste system, Where you are born in society, and cannot move up. For example two black men are in a resteraunt, the waiter never comes to fill up there cups or offer them coffee because she feels they wont leave a tip. Then when they leave, they end up not leaving a tip due to the poor service, these are how stereotypes are molded and upkept.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-12-30 at 19:34:48
My sister was a waitress, and she constantly had black people in her section. She'd treat them with the same attention she would with other, white, people. They still didn't tip worth crap.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-30 at 19:37:44
QUOTE(Kow @ Dec 30 2005, 05:34 PM)
My sister was a waitress, and she constantly had black people in her section. She'd treat them with the same attention she would with other, white, people. They still didn't tip worth crap.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-30 at 21:48:47
Its strange that half the country's crime (America) is commited by African Americans.
Cause the 'white man' is keeping them down. Thats total bullshiz, get an EDUCATION, hell the country provides it!!!!! Even if the school is crappy, you can still graduate and possible get into college. I can't tell you the number of poor to riches stories of African Americans who worked hard and struggled their way through college and made it in the world.
America is designed that if you work hard, YOU WILL SUCCEED. The problem is most people don't give a fark, and are lazy and fat. And blame other people for their problems.
I mean its alot easier to go and rob a store then to go to 4+ years of college and/or high school.
Cause the 'white man' is keeping them down. Thats total bullshiz, get an EDUCATION, hell the country provides it!!!!! Even if the school is crappy, you can still graduate and possible get into college. I can't tell you the number of poor to riches stories of African Americans who worked hard and struggled their way through college and made it in the world.
America is designed that if you work hard, YOU WILL SUCCEED. The problem is most people don't give a fark, and are lazy and fat. And blame other people for their problems.
I mean its alot easier to go and rob a store then to go to 4+ years of college and/or high school.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-12-31 at 02:23:47
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and are lazy and fat
u calling me a minority?!
Maybe all of you are giving everybody the Doubt of the Benefit... uh... the opposite of Benefit of the Doubt...
It's like one of those backwards messages songs. You TRY HARD TO find it, and your brain finally forces you to hear what u want to hear...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RJ_Fighter on 2005-12-31 at 03:45:48
I get pushed around by blacks every day at school and I'm white. They don't give a damn who is around or what the circumstances are, they always like to piss me off and swear their lungs out at me. Once, I went to my locker and I dropped my papers on the floor. This black kid walks up beside me, and tells me to move since his locker is next to mine. I tell him to hold on so I can pick up my papers. He says **** you to me and he drops ALL of his books on my hands and feet on purpose. I tell him again I was trying to pick up my papers. He then proceeds to say "**** you, you little fat *** ill bust your a** up, lil p**sy."
Sometimes in the lunch line or in the hallways, I accidentally bump against a black girl. Most of the time, they just walk away. Other times, they tell me "man, move the **** out of the way, lil boy!" The stupid thing is, most of these girls are either younger than me or a lot smaller than me.
I try not to be racist, but because of some of these things I tend to be racist at times. I have some good black friends, but most of the ones I know are dumbf**ks who care nothing about their future.
Sometimes in the lunch line or in the hallways, I accidentally bump against a black girl. Most of the time, they just walk away. Other times, they tell me "man, move the **** out of the way, lil boy!" The stupid thing is, most of these girls are either younger than me or a lot smaller than me.
I try not to be racist, but because of some of these things I tend to be racist at times. I have some good black friends, but most of the ones I know are dumbf**ks who care nothing about their future.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by exo6yte on 2005-12-31 at 13:23:10
Y0 ZuMTiMeZ M3 An' MaH AzN GaNgStArZ B33T up WHITEYZ an' BLACKS just to SH0W that theAzN R8CE iZ SUPrrIr N 2 SH0W who's BOSS
AZN PRyDE
OH ya AZnZ rOol da wrld here's PR00F http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20..._migration.html
AZnZ r T3H origin8l R8CE evry1 Els is a P0SER
GG NO RE
AZN PRyDE
OH ya AZnZ rOol da wrld here's PR00F http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20..._migration.html
AZnZ r T3H origin8l R8CE evry1 Els is a P0SER
GG NO RE
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-12-31 at 13:24:46
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America is designed that if you work hard, YOU WILL SUCCEED. The problem is most people don't give a fark, and are lazy and fat. And blame other people for their problems.
So what you're saying, is that people continue to be the working poor, because they choose to? Do I understand you correctly, prep? ****ing brilliant thesis you have there. And I suppose that if you were in the same situation as ANY of these people, you would be able to get into a good job and push yourself above the poverty line; because apparently YOU ARE SUPERIOR to them.
Frankly, I'm not convinced. I don't think anyone would choose to live this kind of a life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by exo6yte on 2005-12-31 at 13:26:22
Y0 W3 R P00R CUZ whitey IZ K33PN UZ D0WN whit HiZ P0Lees ph0rces but AZN HAXORS and AZN GANGST4RZ gunna CRUSH white man, have SEX WITH BLACK WOMAN and breed t3h ultimate r8ce whit dem
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-31 at 13:46:51
Report, edit, etc...Posted by exo6yte on 2005-12-31 at 13:55:22
yu mkkin fun of m3 ph0r tlkn 'bout rasicm? why mst the white man connyu to keep da aznman down?
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T|-|15 iz an artikle all 'b0ut d4 4r4B m4n gettn held d0wn by da whiet m4n. wh1+3y sez we n0n-whiteyz cant have sex whit whit wimmen? *#$@ dat, get me a white ho
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by exo6yte on 2005-12-31 at 14:16:26
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbc.../512280312/1076
An article about the racism in Hollywood. Apparently it's wrong for a hot Arab man to get down with a white woman. WTF? This isn't the 1950s.
An article about the racism in Hollywood. Apparently it's wrong for a hot Arab man to get down with a white woman. WTF? This isn't the 1950s.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-31 at 14:20:41
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So what you're saying, is that people continue to be the working poor, because they choose to? Do I understand you correctly, prep? ****ing brilliant thesis you have there. And I suppose that if you were in the same situation as ANY of these people, you would be able to get into a good job and push yourself above the poverty line; because apparently YOU ARE SUPERIOR to them.
Frankly, I'm not convinced. I don't think anyone would choose to live this kind of a life.
Frankly, I'm not convinced. I don't think anyone would choose to live this kind of a life.
Ya, ya.. Blacks get the same chances as whites. THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT WORKING POOR. ITS ABOUT RACISM. Get that through your head. You keep talking as if blacks and the working poor are the same thing.
*Silver-Dragon wonders why*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by exo6yte on 2005-12-31 at 14:24:23
Because they ARE? Black people and AZNZ are abused and mistreated horribly, you can't say that they have the same chance as a white person.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-12-31 at 15:52:09
What about blue collar rednecks?
Most (and I mean most, not all) black people invest in petty things like the latest clothing or big screen TV's, that is if they can afford them. They don't repair their house, they get another child!
In America, if you CHOOSE to work hard, you will be rewarded with a higher pay or even social status.
Most (and I mean most, not all) black people invest in petty things like the latest clothing or big screen TV's, that is if they can afford them. They don't repair their house, they get another child!
In America, if you CHOOSE to work hard, you will be rewarded with a higher pay or even social status.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-12-31 at 15:56:53
QUOTE(Kow @ Dec 31 2005, 04:52 PM)
What about blue collar rednecks?
Most (and I mean most, not all) black people invest in petty things like the latest clothing or big screen TV's, that is if they can afford them. They don't repair their house, they get another child!
In America, if you CHOOSE to work hard, you will be rewarded with a higher pay or even social status.
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Most (and I mean most, not all) black people invest in petty things like the latest clothing or big screen TV's, that is if they can afford them. They don't repair their house, they get another child!
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They also buy pot, guns, alcohol, jewelry and expensive cars.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-31 at 16:27:30
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You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You call me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey" and even "The Man" and you think it's OK.
But when I call you, "african", "Kike", "Towelhead", "Sand-african", "Dune Coon", "Camel Jockey", "Beaner" or "Chink" you call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You say that you want to make a change in this country.
How? By protesting everything that we believe in? By trying to change everything that has made this country run fine for centuries?
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah
You have Cinco de Mayo
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
You have BET.
If we had WET(white entertainment television) we'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists.
If we had white history month, we'd be racists.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You enjoy the thought of Driver's Licenses for illegals.
We enjoy the thought of people obeying the laws of the land in which they reside. No negotiations.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
You call each other "africans", and in doing that you're saying its okay that it doesnt offend you, but when we say it...its racist.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.
You can have Hispanic clubs and Africans American clubs but we couldnt even think of starting a white club without there being controversy
I am white.
I am proud.
I am an American.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Let the talking begin, and to prevent flaming,Euro i suggest you dont post smile.gif.
You call me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey" and even "The Man" and you think it's OK.
But when I call you, "african", "Kike", "Towelhead", "Sand-african", "Dune Coon", "Camel Jockey", "Beaner" or "Chink" you call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You say that you want to make a change in this country.
How? By protesting everything that we believe in? By trying to change everything that has made this country run fine for centuries?
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah
You have Cinco de Mayo
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
You have BET.
If we had WET(white entertainment television) we'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists.
If we had white history month, we'd be racists.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You enjoy the thought of Driver's Licenses for illegals.
We enjoy the thought of people obeying the laws of the land in which they reside. No negotiations.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
You call each other "africans", and in doing that you're saying its okay that it doesnt offend you, but when we say it...its racist.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.
You can have Hispanic clubs and Africans American clubs but we couldnt even think of starting a white club without there being controversy
I am white.
I am proud.
I am an American.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Let the talking begin, and to prevent flaming,Euro i suggest you dont post smile.gif.
in the past the european race has done more harm than it should. they have enslaved, massacred, deseased, raped, robbed, etc. they have caused oppression for several differnt races around the world. and i guess thier hatred still runs deep.
well who are you actually talking to? non whites or someone else. and who are we? not only minoritys urged for changes but also sympathetic whites.
well i dont think anyone has a MET(minority entertainment television)
no race has thier own pride day. it has to be based on an event or person. but theres St. Patrics day, presidents day, etc.
well whites already had all thier rights when this country was founded. minority groups especially the blacks had to fight for it.
i never did say that
stop putting words in my mouth! 
this is true. but white pride often coincides with nazi's and we all know nazi's are racist.
theres a certain line that people shouldnt cross.... and they just crossed it.
wtf. there are places where the cops themselves are racist. did you see the video of the post katrina new orleans? the cops were beating an innocent man. im not saying that all cops are racist but that was racism there.
well usually white clubs have to do with racism and such. i mean having a club for any race is dumb. but what would you exactly do in it? except actions against other races.
whites are treated like any other race. there are racism towards whites and there are racism towards minorities in some areas.
dont take this personally these are just my thoughts zombie.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-31 at 17:47:28
Maybe thats true, Sayoka, but even though whites have done their share of bad things, its over. None of the blacks now felt anything that happened that long ago.
What rights don't blacks have that whites do? Whites aren't allowed to go into some parts of the city. It may be true for blacks as well, but what rights do blacks have that whites do?
As posted under that, they waste the money when they get it as often as not.
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Because they ARE? Black people and AZNZ are abused and mistreated horribly, you can't say that they have the same chance as a white person.
What rights don't blacks have that whites do? Whites aren't allowed to go into some parts of the city. It may be true for blacks as well, but what rights do blacks have that whites do?
As posted under that, they waste the money when they get it as often as not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-31 at 17:55:03
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in the past the european race has done more harm than it should. they have enslaved, massacred, deseased, raped, robbed, etc. they have caused oppression for several differnt races around the world. and i guess thier hatred still runs deep.
well who are you actually talking to? non whites or someone else. and who are we? not only minoritys urged for changes but also sympathetic whites.
well i dont think anyone has a MET(minority entertainment television)
no race has thier own pride day. it has to be based on an event or person. but theres St. Patrics day, presidents day, etc.
well whites already had all thier rights when this country was founded. minority groups especially the blacks had to fight for it.
i never did say that stop putting words in my mouth!
this is true. but white pride often coincides with nazi's and we all know nazi's are racist.
theres a certain line that people shouldnt cross.... and they just crossed it.
wtf. there are places where the cops themselves are racist. did you see the video of the post katrina new orleans? the cops were beating an innocent man. im not saying that all cops are racist but that was racism there.
well usually white clubs have to do with racism and such. i mean having a club for any race is dumb. but what would you exactly do in it? except actions against other races.
whites are treated like any other race. there are racism towards whites and there are racism towards minorities in some areas.
dont take this personally these are just my thoughts zombie.
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well who are you actually talking to? non whites or someone else. and who are we? not only minoritys urged for changes but also sympathetic whites.
well i dont think anyone has a MET(minority entertainment television)
no race has thier own pride day. it has to be based on an event or person. but theres St. Patrics day, presidents day, etc.
well whites already had all thier rights when this country was founded. minority groups especially the blacks had to fight for it.
i never did say that
stop putting words in my mouth! this is true. but white pride often coincides with nazi's and we all know nazi's are racist.
theres a certain line that people shouldnt cross.... and they just crossed it.
wtf. there are places where the cops themselves are racist. did you see the video of the post katrina new orleans? the cops were beating an innocent man. im not saying that all cops are racist but that was racism there.
well usually white clubs have to do with racism and such. i mean having a club for any race is dumb. but what would you exactly do in it? except actions against other races.
whites are treated like any other race. there are racism towards whites and there are racism towards minorities in some areas.
dont take this personally these are just my thoughts zombie.
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See what you said is nuetral.
Cops can be racist can be true also, i've seen plenty of signs of that. But the majority of the racism is comming from all but whites. i hate to say that but most cops arent racist. One or two cops that do some thing racists doesnt make us all racist. Blacks/mexicans are the ones that are always raceist, not all but like 80% of them.