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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-24 at 00:23:09
brainwashing a whole country isnt the only thing that made him a genius. but that wasnt his only accomplishment. he also made advances in technology as well as stablising germanys economy.
even though he wasnt a very skilled wartime tactician he was brilliant.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-24 at 15:55:17
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brainwashing a whole country isnt the only thing that made him a genius.

As stated... he is not a genius for brainwahsing a whole nation. Bush is doing it through fear and saying it gives you security. Do you think he's a genius?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-01-24 at 17:36:00
All Bush does is say that he's working it out, that doesn't mean shiz.

Please refer to my previous psot in this thread.

Hitler didn't brainwash anything, he used the main problem and hate of the German people and took advantage of those two fields to become Chancellor.
If Hitler could Brainwash anyone, he would've branwashed FDR.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 5(U) on 2006-01-24 at 17:41:47
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG @ Jan 24 2006, 05:36 PM)
All Bush does is say that he's working it out, that doesn't mean shiz.

Please refer to my previous psot in this thread.

Hitler didn't brainwash anything, he used the main problem and hate of the German people and took advantage of those two fields to become Chancellor.
If Hitler could Brainwash anyone, he would've branwashed FDR.
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I agree with that.. he didnt brainwash em.. he gave em a way to solve the german problem at this time.. and then he came with some higher goals.. like controling the world and stuff..

someone who starts by saying he wants to control the world won't reach his goal.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-01-24 at 18:30:37
QUOTE(Euro @ Jan 24 2006, 03:55 PM)
As stated... he is not a genius for brainwahsing a whole nation. Bush is doing it through fear and saying it gives you security. Do you think he's a genius?
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Enough with this brainwashing a "whole" country. Germany was not full of Nazi's during Hitler's rule, about 10% of Germany belongs to the Nazi Party.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-01-24 at 18:37:05
Well, that's hotly debated. It's hard to tell whether most Germans, if not in active support of the Nazis, went along with their policies anyway, either because they were afraid of the consequences of opposition, or because they sympathised with the Nazis.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-01-24 at 18:38:45
Yea but still he persuaded more than 50% of the commoners to approve of his actions. In another words, although only 10% was Nazi, Hitler persuaded others so they could approve of his actions. This sounds kinda similar, doesn't it Keg?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ninebreaker on 2006-01-24 at 18:39:19
In the ways that you stated, yes he was. He was only defeated because 3 (or was it 4?) countries gangbeat him. His intentions were wrong, but the way he nonetheless he was one of the greatest rulers there has been, in the past 200 years that is....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-01-24 at 18:44:45
The prize for 'Most Effective Dictator in Modern History' has to go to Stalin though. Hitler shot himself in the head, beaten by Russia, while Stalin died in his bed, his Communist empire expanded.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-24 at 20:34:09
Ahhhh Yes Stalin The great, but as well terrifying man who has killed around 60 million Russians ( I think it was). But thats another topic...... to discuss but meh overall Hitler was a Genius, after all controlling an Empire that would of lasted for a thousand years, was hard work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-24 at 21:44:17
I really don't know what to make of your posts..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-01-25 at 19:21:41
QUOTE(Septhiroth @ Jan 24 2006, 08:34 PM)
Ahhhh Yes Stalin The great, but as well terrifying man who has killed around 60 million Russians ( I think it was). But thats another topic......  to discuss but meh overall Hitler was  a Genius, after all controlling an Empire that would of lasted for a thousand years, was hard work.
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.... blink.gif he didn't kill a half of Russia, he killed about... 1/6
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-25 at 19:51:09
QUOTE(StalingradK @ Jan 25 2006, 06:21 PM)
....  blink.gif he didn't kill a half of Russia, he killed about... 1/6
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Whoops LOL My bad .................... happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-01-25 at 20:03:48
He was an excellent leader to my grandparents. I am racist to jews and i'm german, but i still think he was evil. But he was an intelligent evil man (he wasn't german so don't go racist on me or others).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-25 at 20:16:37
QUOTE(Mp)Marine @ Jan 25 2006, 07:03 PM)
He was an excellent leader to my grandparents. I am racist to jews and i'm german, but i still think he was evil. But he was an intelligent evil man (he wasn't german so don't go racist on me or others).
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He was an Austrian dreamed to become a wonderful painter, but I honestly heard that Hitler was also partically Jewish (from his Grandfather)

Srry for going off topic happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2006-01-25 at 21:50:59
Hitler was very smart. Of course hes very racist and all and somewhat crazy. The jewish thing is just a rumor as far as I know, I don't think thats ever been proven.

Before Hitler rose to power, it was 4 million marcs to the dollar and inflating extremely rapidly. It was like that because the treaty of versailles which bankrupted germany even further after ww1. Once hitler took over, he made it resonable, something like 4 marcs to the dollar and and stayed that way. He was a promising artist before he became a politician.

In war, he was very good as well obviously for he conquered most of europe. However, he was arrogant and had way to much pride which ultimetly lead to his down fall. He was arrogant because he refused to listen to his generals when he felt very strongly about something such as when d day arrived his generals insisted that they'd tank the ports when hitler insisted it was normandy and he protected normandy. His pride worked before the battle of stalingrad where he split his forces because he was so sure that they'd win.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FISH2000 on 2006-01-25 at 22:49:46
Yeah, I think Hitler was a genious, I just hope we don't have any more geniuses that are so successful at world domination.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-25 at 23:09:18
I'm sorry, I haven't read much since I don't have the time at present.

Hitler was anything but a Genius. It was not him that came up with all the technology, the strategies, the deathplans. They were all people 'under' him who did the great deeds. If anything, he was the face of the Empire, holding no real power but pleasing the people.

My greatest example is near the time of the Invasion of Normandy. Hitler was so utterly certain the attack would be headed at the northern peninsula, that he denied his generals the permission to fortify any area other than it. When Normandy was invaded, he still kept this theory, claiming that it was a distraction for the true landing force, which would occur at the northern peninsula. He also denied permission for many possible counterattacks that could have uprooted the Allies's hold on the beaches of Normandy, possibly even driving them back.

Another great example is the command to invade Russia. Oh, the moron. He lost almost litterally half his army in that invasion, and received no prize for the loss. Better yet, he had a treaty with Russia. Why in the bloody hell would you do it, man?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-26 at 18:20:34
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Jan 25 2006, 10:09 PM)
Better yet, he had a treaty with Russia. Why in the bloody hell would you do it, man?
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Hitler needed this NON-AGRESSION PACT to promise that the Soviet to partically help Hitler invade the other side of Poland and he made this pact so that the Russians can gain trust to Hitler, thus Hitler can spread his chaos through-out the rest of Europe and expanded widely with out worrying that the soviet union might strike. Hitler obviously planned this. Hitler invaded the Union for a Purpose to completly END the hopes of the Allied forces. He Invaded Russia to finally claim the final key to make his empire dominate the world (Britian didn't include it, it was optional for him) He striked Russia as quick as possible thus this would end all hopes for allied victory as Hitler would finally be conected with the Japanese Empire. He invaded in auguest cuz he thought 7 was a lucky number
(I agree on you with that)


Even though Adolf Hitler didn't plan the Deaths, The Strategy, and The Technology, but Adolf Hitler Controlled Germany with his voice and beliefs. He fulled millions and made them believe him, which I want to see if anyone else can do it. Adolf Hitler was also an idealist who seems to always trying to find new ways to improve something.

Example is that Hitler was the one who had the idea of creating the Tiger Tank
( I Think.......) .
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-26 at 20:25:34
Well obviously he wasnt a genius to attack Russia in any situation. For the most part, they burned the crops and pulled further inland, letting the starvation and the cold do the killing. Germans were not particularly well trained for fighting fatigued and frozen.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-26 at 20:39:37
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Jan 26 2006, 07:25 PM)
Well obviously he wasnt a genius to attack Russia in any situation. For the most part, they burned the crops and pulled further inland, letting the starvation and the cold do the killing. Germans were not particularly well trained for fighting fatigued and frozen.
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The thing was that Hitler planned to whipe out all of russia before Winter Arives and what do u mean Germans weren't well trained?!!? Hitler sended over 60% of his Shultzstaffe all on the eastern front with Veterans that tought all in France, Yugolsavia, and Greece. They're were more well trained than the russians.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-26 at 20:54:09
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well trained for fighting fatigued and frozen.

Did you miss that part?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-26 at 20:58:57
Their Shultzstaffes! they were trained in any weather conditions as they tried to perform perfectly during War
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-26 at 21:09:33
Eh. They still seemed to have lost.
Horribly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kp.ZpfW-PanzerIII on 2006-01-26 at 22:46:41
I dont think hitler hated jews I just think he wanted an excuse for invadeing all of Europe smile.gif
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