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First thing: im everything but a racist, im an open minded person.. any comments about the fact that im racist because i say "hitler is a genius" should be considering like flood.. because thats false.. i dont dislike jews of any kind.. in fact i like their music (john zorn's masada is like the best jew avantgarde music u can get (again, thats my opinion))

So here's why Adolf Hitler is a genius.. i want to know what do u think of that..

A guy able to lead an entire country needs a lot of charism... Hitler had that

his war strategies were really good too.. he started with nothing and became one of the most ingenious country leader who commanded the whole europa (for a while)

+ a genius doesnt have to be "good"..then why does people disagree with that: hitler is a genius

I agree that he was a genius in those terms, but his bitter animosity against the jews and the erradication of them outweighs his good side.

Althought it may be true that hitler had superior leadership, superior charisma, and superior methods of attaining the ranks that he did. He did kill thousands and thousands of jewish people. I feel that its a shame that such skill went to waste. How can it be that someone so great could be so horrible. I agree that the killing and slaughtering of jewish people definitely negate his skills and genius.

in fact hitler did so many "evil" things that he should be considered like someone who has a "good side"

the thing is.. he's radical but effective.. the jews were a problem in germany.. a little bit like the africans in france right now.. but the difference is how the jews takes control of all the business and stuff..

NOTE: again im not racist... theres no racism in what im saying

the jews were taking control of everything.. and hitler found a way to solve his problem (again im saying it.. i do not agree with hitler's ideas about the jews)

but his way was actually effective...

he had skills to do anything he could ever want.. and thats what he did.. but he did "bad" things..

He was a great speaker, but that does not constitute a genius. If he had been a genius through and through he would have paid more attention at winning the war, and waited to kill the people later. Stalin on the other hand, was a genius, although mad. Killing his own people, yet being praised by their descendant's takes skill. Neither of these people are what I would consider hero-worthy though.

How can we call anyone who kills and slaughters innocent people a hero? Keyword here would be the innocent.

i consider hitler to be a con man instead of a genius. of course con men have to come up with some pretty convincing things to sway people. hitler took advantage of the post ww1 situation of germany. he promised a brighter future and the people of germany believed in him.

hitler knew that he was going to face the world so he thought that superior technology would do him good. this in fact helped the world since hitler developed many things before its time. however in the end hitler got massed. the american shermans although inferior to the dreaded german panzers and tigers overan the germans with shier numbers. this also goes for aircraft/infantry.

although he was a genius he was doomed from the start.

he didnt win because he was outnumbered. he was pretty much screwed when he hit russia.

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He was corrupted by Carl Marx and his Comunistic views, and his babbling about a perfect race of blone haired, blue eyed men.



I believe Mr. Sie summed it up in his last post.

Being charismatic and gaining power through exploiting sympathies and fear over the course of 10 years does not mean you're a genius. It makes you've had circumstancial aid and know when to spring the right moves.

And the Third Reich was screwed as of September 7th, 1940, the day that Luftwaffe policy changed from targeting aircraft and airfields to bombing London and other civilian targets. That's the day they lost the war, because it allowed the British to regain their footing and eventually take air superiority, not to mention being a springboard for the American forces.

It doesn't take a genius to run a country. Cough, George W. Bush.
Okay, enough of the jokes

I don't think Hitler was a "military genius". It was his fault for starting a two front war. He was smart though, just not a genius.

He was definantly one of the smarter men of the 30's - 40's. (Though definantly not the smartest German of that time. *coughalbertcoguh*) But he had one great flaw, he was MUCH too ambitious. Geniuses are better suited to lounging out and philosophiseing than launching a militaral campaign. Most people are inevetebely corrupted, and I've noticed that it comes more natural to the very smart. (Intellegent = Evil?) Maybe not. Maybe these people jsut have such a perfect view for the world as children and growing up they are forever stuck on trying to make it happen, perhaps Hitler was simply blinded by the light to a life of wrong doing. So to speak.

Ummm just a question did he make his own War Stratigies, Where he had to organization his German Divisions and such? Or did he just order his General to invade a specific Country or City?

But Yes Hitler was a Genius. He made the majority of people in Germany like 90% believe his way and deicded to make a Germany Army in 1933. He then increase the "Moral" of the German people by blamming eveything on the Jews and kept building up his own Army, while the other countries in Europe were still weak and poor after the Great Depression and World War I. Then Hitler cleverly forced Austria to join with the Nazi's and then eventually Chezhslovakia (Britian could of prevented World War II). Then in Septemeber 1st 1939 he planned to whipe out Poland and remove it off the Map and he did, thus French and Britian delclared War on Germany because the Two countries promised Poland they delcare war on any country the invades it, But this didn't become a threat to Hitler. Hitler then pressured Finland to join the Nazi army and invade Denmark, and Norway. Then he secretly brought Mussolini to Germany and forces him to have an alliance, as he then plans Italy to invade countries in the African Theatre. Hitler then invade Belgium, Holland, France, and the Netherlands. During that time he was also helping the Civil War in Spain and Fransico succfully won the War with Hitler Arms.
Hitler then controlled 60% perfect of France as the other percentage was control by the French General who is rebelling in Southern france was General Dugalle. But that didn't matter as everything worked out as planned, since Italy and the Afrikaners then took over around 5 addition countries in Africa and The French Goverment signed a treaty to have control of Nothern France AND a Country that they occupied in the Middle-East called Syria and Hitler grew his troops there as well, as he wanted control of Iraq from the British Army that they hav occupied.

But Now here was one of Hitlers Silly Mistakes.

Hitler then began to invade Britian by using Operation Sea Lion, but he decided not to and rapidly bomb Britian with 1 10's 100's 1000's 10 000's 100 000's of Bombs over Britian to pressure Britian to surrender, because Hitler thought they would be afriad just like they were in World War I but they were determind this time as they made a quick political desscission and elected Winston Churchill as British Priminister. He was coffidence on his abilities to stop Adolf Hitler's army from marching towards britian, thus he focus defensively for britian and grew his army in Africa to stop Mussolini and as well made the Auxillary forces. Thus in the End Hitler didn't win and it was a major lost for him.


Hitler said to himself "O well, I just lost a couple thousands of planes"
and continued to grow his Nazi Empire and invaded the Southern East of Europe and forced Romania and Hungary to join the Nazi Party.

But Now here was another of Hitlers Silly Mistakes.
Hitler was then planning on Operation Barbossa which was to invade the Soviet Union and break their non-agression pact that they had since 1939. Hitler then invade and crushed the Baltic States and invade Ukraine and Georgia. Then he was at the front gates of entering the Russian Territory. Thus Hitler demanded to a major Bltizkreig again on Russian Territory. Hitting the 3 most important cities in the Soviet Union during the time, which was Leningrad, Moscow, and the Largest of all Stalingrad. Hitler lost against all three cities and sadly there was a problem on the Blitzkreig. Eventhough is expanded widely and largely quick, the strategy didn't didn't contain any defensive asspects, thus gave the Russians a chance for a counter attack on the Kursk. Hitler also should of also started the invasion on May not august or septemeber as it would be winter at that time to slow down his mobility for Tanks and Artillery's which were majorly important.

But yea Hitler was a Genius
Srry for displaying a timeline of WW 2

Yes I do agree he was a genious with a good idea: One land, one people, one belief. He just went about it all wrong!

Umm.. well Hitler was a smart guy, but not a genius. And I believe its "Charisma".
You have to remember he had other people doing his work as well. And although was was very much a part of war stratagies and the likes, he had advisors to help him. He was a crazy guy who actually started his plan of "cleasing" the world. Smart, but not nessisarily a genius.

It was "one nation, one empire, one leader"

Ooooo Why? To achieve Victory in Wars its just about who's smarter or not. It deppends on how smart, how healthy, how strategic, how determined Hitler's Soldiers are and as well Hitler wasen't really the one who planned persiclely on how his Military will be organized because his Generals , (Field Marshall) were suppose to do that and they weren't brilliant on strategies as the majority of them only focuses on using the Blitzkreig. (Unlike Rommel Ewrin seems to be the most brilliant of all German Generals but this isn't the topic to discuss about him) and Yes he did TRIED to invade england before he invade russia

Hitler was an idiot when it came to military strategy. All the countries he took over where taken with no resistance basically. Germany is way larger than most of the countries of Europe. France had a chance to fight em off but then again, they are France. So Hitler attacked Britian and would have taken them if not for his attack on Russia. He basically forced himself into loss. He may have been able to hold the Brits off, but not the Brits and Russians.

The war itself was a pretense for the extermination of the European jews. During the late war years (1944-45), when given the choice of using transportation to aid the ailing German people or to send more jews to die, they nearly always opted for the latter.

Ummm the only thing is that in some Camps he perform Extermination (which i don't entirely know why) but he has some camps to force the Jews to work on his Nazi productions. Like what the Japanese did to the Chinese during World War II, they put them all to the concentration camps and force them to work. But I do think Stalin is worst.....Over 60 Millions lives were lost by him.

Still worng.
"Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Fuhrer"
One Empire(Could be Nation), One People, One Leader


The first step into writting a thesis is to read from many different sources, not just one.

The first reason to back my thesis based on Hitler, don't read History books written by the goverment. Who in the hell said that the US goverment would write good things about their past enemies and bad things about themselves? All you see in those books are the American point of view and of course they would change a few things.

I've read a great deal of books about WWII and Hitler and they are far different than what American School History books have to say.

A few examples:

Dr. John Pimlott (English) - Wehrmacht
Adolf Hitler (Austrian) - Mein Kampf
Adolf Hitler (Austrian) - Unpublished Sequel to Mein Kampf
Rainer Karlsch (German) - Hitler's Bomb
-- And most important of all --
German newspaper clippings of my grandfather.

My first thesis is based on Hitler's rise to power.

Hitler had a very excellent and logical reason in which to wage his campaign against the Jews. The jews have been hate by caucasian europeans since the Middle Ages. they were banned from England for almost 400 years until Oliver Cromwell headed Parliament during the English Civil War. Hitler was an Austrian born German politician in the most ruined country in the world at the time, both economically and structurally. The Germans wanted to fix their problems, and the Jews were one of them. Everybody thought and it was most probably true, that at the time, the jews were the greedy middle class composed of Bankers and Shopkeepers that wanted profits for themselves and their kin, but not to the European nations.

You now have a common problem for the Europeans, and in Hitler's goals, Germans. The German people needed a leader that would fix any of their problems, they were in such desperate times that any fix in any problem would work. Hitler used the Jews as the main problem in which to fix. By implementing his goal, the german people thought that it was true and then they elected him Chancellor in 1933.

History has shown that a single man cannot change the views of any society. In 1727, Jonathan Swift proposed a very logical, persuasive and problem fixing pamphlet called "A Modest Proposal", in which in order to fix the economicall status of Ireland, people would sell their one eyar old babies for 10 shillings and they would be used for food. If you read it, you would completely agree with what he said, he points all possible issues in favor of his thesis and then he counters possible counter-issues that may be presented. The project never took place.
"You can change the views of a man, but you can never change how society acts or thinks."

With this, we can conclude that Hitler used the views of society into leading him to power. People already thought in this way about Jews, so Hitler proposed himself to be the person to fic the Jew problem.

Now to the second thesis, "Why did Hitler loose the war?".

Militarily speaking, Hitler knew nothing about naval warfare. This already puts Germany at a big disadvantage because there couldn't be full coordination between all military forces.

Second, Germany was allied with Italy against all nations in the world. You can't really count Japan because they were fighting their own separate war. You can say that the Axis powers controlled far more land, resources, men than all the other countries agaisnt him, but he had to defend the newly acquired lands against the people living there. So he had to wage two wars, military and civil. You had 4 powerfull nations against the Axis domination over Germany: USA, USSR, Great Britian and Canada. This means that you are already outnumbered on men and resources. You can say that Hitler had more numbers of each, but for him to succesfully wage war, he had to use greater numbers than his counterparts, meaning that he will run out of men and resources faster.

The third reason for Hitler's loss of the war was the Soviet Union itself. The Soviet Union marked many obstacles for the Germans, it mean opening another flank and thus another war for the Germans, it had to stretch supply lines to unheard of distances in previous wars and Hitler had to split his resources and men. Many historians think and write about "Hitler's Invasion into the Soviet Union". This is a flase statement. Hitler's "Operation Barbarossa" intially was planned to take over the Baltic states, the countries in the Black Sea area and those in the Black Steppes (the ones in between), but it did not include such an early invasion of the Soviet Union. Once Hitler started invading the countries surrounding the Soviet Union, the Soviets counter-attacked, but it was not en-masse and they soon retreated. Meaning that the Soviets took the chance in taking a country currently waging war against Germany. This meant that Stalin was eager to advance west and take over German held lands. This obliged Hitler to attack the Soviets.