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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-26 at 21:10:38
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No, if they had the technology to get here, they'd have the technology to intercept, translate, and talk back through radio waves. At the very least that is.


the repercussions from absolutely knowing that extraterrestrial life will be somewhat chaotic. i believe that ther aliens do not want to bring knowledge of thier existance all at once. thats why they are doing it in steps so that we will not be totally shocked.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-26 at 21:14:23
Let's review.
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You cant win against conspirisists, but it's easy to figure out they're wrong and move on.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-27 at 15:11:16
I just don't get why aliens will make signs in cropfields.. Honestly.. WHY CROPFIELDS?! It makes no sense sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-27 at 15:15:47
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it may be so but since they are geometrical in design they could be trying to communicate since math is probolly the only bridge in our communication. the reason they dont want to be spotted is because we try to kill them. farmers with shotguns, airforces engaging them etc. as for the crop fields it probolly has the least impact on society. just a few bucks worth of crop destroyed and it would be noticeable. if you think about it crop fields are one of the best canvases without causing damage.


some people say they have healing powers etc. what we do know is that electrical devices have trouble when you are in or around crop circles because of the radiation. so maybe it could cure cancer. there have been some cases where in fact people with cancer have been healed.

or maybe they just want to give us super bread.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 15:32:47
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Jan 26 2006, 07:14 PM)
Let's review.
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You cant win against conspirisists, but it's easy to figure out they're wrong and move on.

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No. You can't win against arrogence. Which you proudly show.

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or maybe they just want to give us super bread.
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Hahahahaahaha!

I like how Soul just "KNOWS" everything. Pure arrogence is bliss of the individual.

Anyways, I believe the reason Aliens talk to us through crop circles, if they do in fact use crop circles as communication, is for the fact that the human race is to feeble minded (in their eyes, and in my eyes) to understand any other form of communication.

Hell. We're to feeble minded to understand Crop Circles for christ sakes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-27 at 15:40:15
Basically.

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or maybe they just want to give us super bread.


Best damned theory I have ever heard of crop circles.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-27 at 15:42:04
It is a fact that their is life out there in the universe. It is impossible to say otherwise merely because of the size of the universe, and its age. If we came about, then surely others could have to. Whether in the form of bacteria or in the form of intelligence. BTW soul, "they"re easy to prove their wrong and move on" if its so easy then how come you haven't proved anyone wrong yet? N00bs and their arrogance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 15:45:08
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N00bs and their arrogance.

YES!

Anyways.

Exactly. Euro pointed out the most obvious thing. We cannot be the only form of life here in the universe, because we've found bacteria on Mars.

Bacteria is a form of life, too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-27 at 15:49:56
Hell, there may be alien organisms among us already, except they are VERY microscopic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 15:54:41
There is a possibility. But not in Soul's mind.

I saw a show on T.V about one virus (The Haunta, or E.Coli.. The one that was in the movie with the monkeys and Morgon Freeman... The haunta) that they believe is possibly an alien life form.

But in the eyes of the arrogent, that's not possible.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-01-27 at 16:33:09
Actually, they have theories of life being on mars from water being there, but they actually never found anything yet, Kellimus.

There is a HUGE chance something out there exists. Think. There are billions of galaxies. There are millions and millions of stars in each galaxy (depends if it's a spiral, irregular, etc). Most of them would have solar systems, and planets. If the sun provides just the right amount energy to the planet, and the planet makes the necassary elements in it's atmosphere, then yes, there will be life.

It's still a theory, but there IS life out there, not counting our solar system though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-27 at 16:40:54
http://www.marsnews.com/focus/life/

Then what's that Merrell? That just heightens it from theory to extremely high possibility.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-01-27 at 16:56:14
That shows no evidence. Quote a paragraph without the word "might" or "maybe," you get the point. They show fossils and carbonates, but no exact form of 'life.'

Read it throughly before you try to disprove me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-27 at 17:04:37
Okay, I was a little too overconfident on that one, but does it really have to be from Mars? Think about moons of other planets. Titan (I believe at least) has a good atmosphere that could support life, so possibly that has some sort of living things there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-27 at 17:05:18
Thanks for all the blunt hypocrisy, Kellimus.
Didn't you just get finished about saying how flaming was bad?
And do you realize the intense amount of 'ignorance' and 'arrogance' you yourself show?
I don't think I'm always right, but I doubt you even read my argument. As has happen in the past, I gladly chance my opinion WITH VALID EVIDENCE/LOGIC.
I simply can't see the logic being crop circles being connected to alien communication. Show me evidence, any at all, that aliens made them. A shred would be fine, but have you showed any? I think not.


As a matter of fact, I tired to make a valid argument:
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And there is plenty of proof crop circles are fake. I watched the discovery channel one night, where they had the CircleMakers make a crop circle in a field. The next day they brought in the TOP crop circle experts, and guess what they said?

This is an authentic crop circle, yadda, yadda.....

Somebody even photoshoped their own 'balls of light making a crop circle' video, showed it to a group of crop circle fanatics, who beleived the whole thing, and then revealed to them it was fake. You


Which you ignored, of course.



And Sie, I would love to see a source on that person, or persons, being cured of cancer by standing in a crop circle.
And Euro, I did try to prove him wrong, but he ignored my argument entirely.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 18:40:30
What arguement?

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Of course I beleive in aliens, but them communicating through crop circles is pure bullshiz.


Explain how a comment, is a basis of a solidified arguement. With that logic, Euro saying "I'm god", is an arguement against god.

I'm a hypocrite? Care to explain? Is it because I can see that your "arguement" is full of personal opinion, and no facts? Sorry to break it to you, but facts aren't:

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Somebody even photoshoped their own 'balls of light making a crop circle' video, showed it to a group of crop circle fanatics, who beleived the whole thing, and then revealed to them it was fake


According to your logic, that's a fact. Well, if that is a fact, then anyone claiming something, can logically (in your logic) say it's a fact.

How do I show ignorance, when I tried explaining my views on this, earlier in the topic when I posted about the picture? Trying to explain something is ignorance?

And arrogence.. That's funny, i'm not the one comming in here and claiming that aliens cannot communicate through crop circles (which is being close minded, mind you) just because they are a superiour race. That's pure arrogence in the flesh right there.

Valid Evidence? Care to show it to us? I sure do not see any evidence within your post except for personal opinion. Oh, I forgot. That's your valid evidence and logic, too.

It's not hard to understand the possibility of an alien race using geometric patterns to speak. Look at the Egyptians. They used heirogliphics to write, and they are a sequence of shapes. So are you saying that it's not possible that they can speak with shapes? That's the logic that I see from you.

Now. I don't see the logic from you. You claim they are a superiour race to us, which in most cases, they are, yet you don't believe the possibility that their language is made up of geometrical patterns and shapes?

That's just being arrogent and hard-headed right there.

Edit: And by the way. Why do you claim that i'm posting arguements? Discussing possibilities is not posing an arguement. So please explain to me how posting my own opinions about posibilities, is a solidified arguement.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dragon-slayer on 2006-01-27 at 19:09:51
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Jan 27 2006, 04:05 PM)
Thanks for all the blunt hypocrisy, Kellimus.
Didn't you just get finished about saying how flaming was bad?
And do you realize the intense amount of 'ignorance' and 'arrogance' you yourself show?
I don't think I'm always right, but I doubt you even read my argument. As has happen in the past, I gladly chance my opinion WITH VALID EVIDENCE/LOGIC.
I simply can't see the logic being crop circles being connected to alien communication. Show me evidence, any at all, that aliens made them. A shred would be fine, but have you showed any? I think not.
As a matter of fact, I tired to make a valid argument:
Which you ignored, of course.
And Sie, I would love to see a source on that person, or persons, being cured of cancer by standing in a crop circle.
And Euro, I did try to prove him wrong, but he ignored my argument entirely.
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Technicallly you have any evidence that aliens did NOT make them biggrin.gif interested.gif
Also, i really doubt Discovery channel has ALL they're facts straight...
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[center]So...  ALL crop circles have been in wheat fields?  Never in corn?  And by all, I mean every single crop circle ever made in all of history...[/center]
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Nope
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 19:17:01
You just helped Donwano's discusion:

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They are mostly often found in wheat or corn fields, but have also been found in oat, rape (canola), and barley.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-27 at 19:34:16
Okay, I really don't appreicate you flaming me. Saying 'that's his logic', 'he thinks he's always right', etc.
I've been trying NOT to flame.

I do, in fact, take offense to you calling me close minded. The very fact that there is no proof that aliens made crop circles is in itself valid evidence that it is NOT true. If you have no evidence to back the claim in the first place, you are basically saying it's a lie.

It's one of these arguments, though. Like me, the Athiest, and ChristianSoldier on a seperate forum. The argument could never end because we both beleived so completely that we were right, and there truely was no evidence to support either side.

This is one of those arguments. Going back I realized that I haven't presented much evidence besides what I've seen on the Discovery Channel, so I will admit to that. I will not, however, admit defeat.

The only thing I will come to is a truce, a tie. If you admit this is 'one of those arguments', I will cease and desist.

In any case, could you please stop being so hostle towards me? All these flames that no Mod seems to care about really pisses me off.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FISH2000 on 2006-01-27 at 19:50:42
I highly doubt that aliens could be so perfect as to leave no evidence or trace, as many people have stated. I do believe in extraterrestrial life, but not crop circles formed by them. Besides what could they be for. If they are so perfect, then they must know it would only last a short period of time. Nothing strange seams to happen after these crop circles are formed. Seams like theres nothing they could for anyone other than hoaxers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2006-01-27 at 19:56:04
Ladies and gentlemen, please stop calling each other arrogant, hard-headed or close-minded. This is a debate and please keep it civil. One more strike and teh lock.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-27 at 19:59:37
QUOTE(Merrell @ Jan 27 2006, 04:56 PM)
That shows no evidence. Quote a paragraph without the word "might" or "maybe," you get the point. They show fossils and carbonates, but no exact form of 'life.'

Read it throughly before you try to disprove me.
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Those weren't even fossils, they're rocks that look like semi-life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-27 at 21:42:32
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I highly doubt that aliens could be so perfect as to leave no evidence or trace, as many people have stated. I do believe in extraterrestrial life, but not crop circles formed by them. Besides what could they be for. If they are so perfect, then they must know it would only last a short period of time. Nothing strange seams to happen after these crop circles are formed. Seams like theres nothing they could for anyone other than hoaxers.


if they can cross hundreds of lightyears they can do that...
the reason why it is there for a short period of time is because the aliens dont want to cause long term damage for the farmers.
there are very strange things the happen after a crop circle is formed. for one it emits an eletromagnetic field that can distrupt electric devices.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 23:00:40
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Jan 27 2006, 05:34 PM)
Okay, I really don't appreicate you flaming me. Saying 'that's his logic', 'he thinks he's always right', etc.
I've been trying NOT to flame.

I do, in fact, take offense to you calling me close minded. The very fact that there is no proof that aliens made crop circles is in itself valid evidence that it is NOT true. If you have no evidence to back the claim in the first place, you are basically saying it's a lie.

It's one of these arguments, though. Like me, the Athiest, and ChristianSoldier on a seperate forum. The argument could never end because we both beleived so completely that we were right, and there truely was no evidence to support either side.

This is one of those arguments. Going back I realized that I haven't presented much evidence besides what I've seen on the Discovery Channel, so I will admit to that. I will not, however, admit defeat.

The only thing I will come to is a truce, a tie. If you admit this is 'one of those arguments', I will cease and desist.

In any case, could you please stop being so hostle towards me? All these flames that no Mod seems to care about really pisses me off.
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Boo hoo.

You started it. And you're the one getting 'angry' over the fact that I just posted my opinions, and you got butt-hurt over them.

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if they can cross hundreds of lightyears they can do that...
the reason why it is there for a short period of time is because the aliens dont want to cause long term damage for the farmers.
there are very strange things the happen after a crop circle is formed. for one it emits an eletromagnetic field that can distrupt electric devices.
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I've heard of such things as these.. Do you have any sites that I could check out?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-28 at 00:05:46
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there are very strange things the happen after a crop circle is formed. for one it emits an eletromagnetic field that can distrupt electric devices.


you mean this part? they talk about it and you can see the camera screwing up on the tv. heres some sites.

site

they are easy to find just type in crop circles electromagnetic

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The EM energy is detectable at the very physical perimeter of a crop circle, indicating that a shielding element is in place.
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