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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-24 at 00:00:05
Let me explain a little about the crop circles and the possible answers.

the physical proof that is left behind a crop circle is:
-Little magnetic iron balls found in the soil(very small like half a period dot)
-Radioactiveness(can distrupt electronic equiptment)
-Bursted wheat joints(from super heating)
-All are made in geometrical design
-Created During the night

Aliens-
Many people believe that aliens have formed the crop circles. as a way of communicating to us or for other reasons.
Neg-
if the aliens do want to communicate why during the day? and why crop fields?
Pos-
aliens dont want to come in contact with us because we are too violent(try to shoot them down and such)

Natural Forces-

Some people believe that crop circles are made from natural electro magnetic forces whenever a sunflare comes to earth and changes the field or whatnot.
Pos-
It does explain why there are the radioactiveness and the bursted wheat joints.
Neg-
Crop circles happen at night. nature doesnt make complex geometric shapes.

Government Experiments-


Some people think that the government of the US and England as well as many other countries are doing secret experiements using radioactive propulsion systems.
Pos-
everyone wants to blame it on the government
Neg-
wtf...

Hoaxers-

It is proven that hoaxers have made some crop circles around the world. basically since i dont want to make a lot of answers all hoaxers include people who do it for kicks, people who do it for spiritual beliefs, people who do it for money, etc. They make it with rollers or 2x4s tied to a rope.
Pos-
it is known that hoaxers make crop circles
Neg-
hoaxers cannot simply make that much circles around the world. also the radioactiveness does not come from hoaxers.

Divine Powers-

Some people believe that devine powers create the circles. some people think that God creates it to communicate.
Pos-
Divine powers can do anything
Neg-
Why crop circles?

PS.
The famous video of the balls of light creating a crop circle was a hoax. a movie producer created it and just edited the film.

i think that its aliens it seems like the only logical explination to me. the crop circles are getting more and more complex but i do have my doubts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-24 at 00:01:10
I really don't care.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-24 at 00:03:46
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it is known that hoaxers make crop circles

Easier than I thought.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-24 at 00:24:06
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hoaxers cannot simply make that much circles around the world. also the radioactiveness does not come from hoaxers.


not really
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-24 at 00:28:58
Let's see, I just watched a documentary on this very topic about one hour ago. Excellent, I have fresh proof in my mind.

The videotape of the 'balls of light' making a crop circle has been proven a hoax by photoshop experts. tongue.gif
Balls of light can be faked with three simple ingredients: a fishing pole, a plastic bag, and a guy running across a crop field

Aside from that, I give you the same response I give religion:

There is no definite proof that it is true, but there is definite evidence that it is fake.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-24 at 13:33:55
If hoaxers cannot give the "radioactiveness" then why are they a choice?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2006-01-24 at 14:26:33
Its a bit strange that we havent seen crop circles untill these past 50 years or so. Ive seen a movie of hoaxers making crop circles but some of then are way to complicated. It cant be natural because they are way to precise and mathamaticly correct. The governemts "natural propulshion system" wouldnt make a series of circles like in some crop circles that ive seen. Also Ive seen crop circles in the shape of cars. And as for the Devine powers, I dont believe in god.

ALIENS! blink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-24 at 14:29:44
DUDE

POSSESSED!!

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-24 at 15:51:18
I say aliens. It could be hoaxers, but the corn stalks aren't snapped. They're completely flat, and I'm not sure that hoaxers would survive having nuclear-powered green lamps. Government experiments are also possible, but..yeah.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-24 at 16:16:27
I must find the link to the CircleMaker's page. They've made some of those 'complicated' crop circles in broad daylight for movies, commercials, etc.

http://www.circlemakers.org/'
Easy enough, haha.

ADDITION:
For instance, they made this marvelously complicated crop circle:
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.HydrA.oO on 2006-01-24 at 20:16:30
I've seen footage of people making them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2006-01-24 at 20:29:28
I don't believe it is done by aliens. They are done by humans. I've seen them do it before, it takes them a whole night but they can finnish it before anyone sees them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-24 at 21:39:33
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Its a bit strange that we havent seen crop circles untill these past 50 years or so.


it has been happening in england for centries. i saw a show on it it had all of these circles in the fields and the medieval english thought it was a possessed field or something.

you guys have to admit ALL of them cant be made by people. there are far too many around the world. its like bigfoot foot prints.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2006-01-24 at 22:05:55
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Jan 24 2006, 04:16 PM)
I must find the link to the CircleMaker's page. They've made some of those 'complicated' crop circles in broad daylight for movies, commercials, etc.

http://www.circlemakers.org/'
Easy enough, haha.

ADDITION:
For instance, they made this marvelously complicated crop circle:
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That was photoshopped on, buddy. Cant you tell?


Anyway, I ovosly beliv dat alienz cam from outr spaz n mad tem tere fer no aparent reson.

Or it could a bunch of idiots flattening crops. Tadah!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheEvilBeaVer on 2006-01-25 at 11:36:48
"I wonder what are they trying to say us" tongue.gif
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-25 at 13:04:49
QUOTE(warhammer40000 @ Jan 24 2006, 08:05 PM)
That was photoshopped on, buddy. Cant you tell?
Anyway, I ovosly beliv dat alienz cam from outr spaz n mad tem tere fer no aparent reson.

Or it could a bunch of idiots flattening crops. Tadah!
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Explain.

I'm in Digital Design and Animation here in college, and we've finished Photoshop and moved on. I have a good amount of knowledge when it comes to it. I'm not saying that there is no way that the image is photoshoped, because there is that possibility. But notice the tracks in the fields stock.. When there is crop (The dark stuff) around the tracks, they are dark like they are supposed to be. When there is no crop around the tracks, they are light, like the crop has been cut by a mechanical device. Also, if you notice, the tracks that go through the crop, don't change opacities like a photoshoped image would. If you notice the middle part of the image, the tracks go through the crop, and the crop is cut like something has gone through it (Notice the outside of the "photoshoped" image)

Look at the top left of the photo, the third set of tracks. If you notice, the tracks move down (If you've ever lived on a farm, you will know what I mean) as if they have been cut. When a field has crop, and has tracks through the field, and you go to a certain point, and look at it from a certain angle, the illusion of the tracks are that they actually have moved "down" from the point that they actually are created at.

So... Again, I am not saying it is not possible, because it is.. But I don't see why someone would waste time and skills just to make something like that up.

NOTE: Notice the element in the middle of the field. It is there, and is not opacitied. That is another reason I don't believe it's fake, because of how everything that should be there in a field (Again, i'm a farm boy, and know what it's like to go trampling through crop) is there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-25 at 13:43:51
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of teling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the fark down.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-25 at 15:04:06
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 25 2006, 02:04 PM)


I don't see why someone would waste time and skills just to make something like that up.


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Why not? Well, if they did photoshop it, look at what their art has done. It's confusing us. Maybe they wanted to confuse people!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-25 at 15:33:30
it seems easier to photoshop than to go into a field and work for a couple hours when you could be arrested.
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Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of teling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the fark down.

corn isnt the right canvas its wheat.... yes they want to screw with our bread. those illegitimate childs!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-01-25 at 15:51:20
Real crop circles (Not photoshopped) always are proportional in multiples of six to the paths created purposely in the crops. This picture is proportional to it, but isn't alligned with them, which would create problems when creating them because you'd have to tread the crop, and it's more mathematically proportional and is a good guideline. You see the lines in the picture to which I added red? It would have to shift over to line up with the marks about which Kelly was talking.

Also, notice the quartered shading that only occurs in image editing programs.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-25 at 18:59:00
And the fact that the lines still run through it...

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hoaxers cannot simply make that much circles around the world.


More than one hoaxer buddy...

QUOTE
I don't see why someone would waste time and skills just to make something like that up.


Be nice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-25 at 19:26:35
Hmmmmmm............I may do think there are Artifical Lifeforms other than us that exsists in this universe but I don't think they would make signs. Like why would they make signs in the first place, they obviously wouldn't want us to spot or notice them.

Off Topic-
The States have the Aruroa Fighter ( So called Plane with Alien Technology....)
thats what I heard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-25 at 19:36:14
Don't care, Dont know.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-25 at 22:08:11
Auroras contain no such alien technology.
When the microwave first came out, people claimed it used alien technology.
It's simply another step in technology.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2006-01-25 at 22:19:59
Ohhh... That's why I dont post things in discusions that may trigger some part of your brain on this site! Because everyone must act like...

Anyway, I was stating the fact that it looked like a picture on a picture. Anyway again, some other people said some things about it that may prove my point a bit more. I dont feel like arguing because you cant get out of an argument in this place.

Moving on,
...People... Stop being so gullible... Aliens? This isnt starcraft, anymore..
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