Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-08-18 at 07:49:43
Oh please, I don't want'em. I want to figure out the crashers - better donate them to the modding contest:)
EDIT: Another one is the Yamato Gun's energy cost - 255 is too much.
Yet another is the weapons.dat entry ID #8 (Hellfire Missile (Normal)) Behaviour: "Appears on target" while it is a projectile.
Another one: Weapons.dat entry 11 (Arclite Cannon) Behaviour: "Go to Max Range".
Another: weapons.dat entry 19 (ATS Laser Battery) has minimum range higher than the maximum range.
Another: weapons.dat entry 81 (STA Photon Cannon) Explosion is set to: "Unknown (Crash)"
Dunno about this one (can't test it), but isn't the Defiler flingy.dat entry's Turn Radius too big - 150? I bet this is it, because that's the only thing in flingy.dat that I found different to the default file.
Another: Infested Terran (units.dat ID 50) has "Require Creep" checked
Another: Dragoon (units.dat ID 66) has "Flying Building" checked.
Another (not certain): Interceptor (units.dat ID 73) Attack Unit AI order is set to "Attack Unit" and not "Strafe Unit1"
I didn't go into images.dat yet, because it's too big a file to skip through just like I did with the other files.
EDIT: Another one is the Yamato Gun's energy cost - 255 is too much.
Yet another is the weapons.dat entry ID #8 (Hellfire Missile (Normal)) Behaviour: "Appears on target" while it is a projectile.
Another one: Weapons.dat entry 11 (Arclite Cannon) Behaviour: "Go to Max Range".
Another: weapons.dat entry 19 (ATS Laser Battery) has minimum range higher than the maximum range.
Another: weapons.dat entry 81 (STA Photon Cannon) Explosion is set to: "Unknown (Crash)"
Dunno about this one (can't test it), but isn't the Defiler flingy.dat entry's Turn Radius too big - 150? I bet this is it, because that's the only thing in flingy.dat that I found different to the default file.
Another: Infested Terran (units.dat ID 50) has "Require Creep" checked
Another: Dragoon (units.dat ID 66) has "Flying Building" checked.
Another (not certain): Interceptor (units.dat ID 73) Attack Unit AI order is set to "Attack Unit" and not "Strafe Unit1"
I didn't go into images.dat yet, because it's too big a file to skip through just like I did with the other files.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord_Agamemnon(MM) on 2006-08-18 at 12:15:09
BK, you scare me. I never thought you were actually gonna DO it...Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-18 at 12:18:06
Of course they go to the contest.
Yes, 40mins.
No. This does not crash.
Yes. 50 mins.
Yes. 50 mins.
Yes. 30 mins.(It has crash in the name...)
Yes. This causes the defiler to glitch in spinning. 100 mins.
Fake.
It does? I thought I checked Requires Psi...anyway, it's fake.
Fake. Srry, this isn't a glitch or crash. It actually plays like a mod would.
There's only 3 in images.dat left. none in techdata, 1 in flingy, and I'm not sure how many left in units and weapons...
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Another one is the Yamato Gun's energy cost - 255 is too much.
Yes, 40mins.
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Yet another is the weapons.dat entry ID #8 (Hellfire Missile (Normal)) Behaviour: "Appears on target" while it is a projectile.
No. This does not crash.
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Another one: Weapons.dat entry 11 (Arclite Cannon) Behaviour: "Go to Max Range".
Yes. 50 mins.
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Another: weapons.dat entry 19 (ATS Laser Battery) has minimum range higher than the maximum range.
Yes. 50 mins.
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Another: weapons.dat entry 81 (STA Photon Cannon) Explosion is set to: "Unknown (Crash)"
Yes. 30 mins.(It has crash in the name...)
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Dunno about this one (can't test it), but isn't the Defiler flingy.dat entry's Turn Radius too big - 150? I bet this is it, because that's the only thing in flingy.dat that I found different to the default file.
Yes. This causes the defiler to glitch in spinning. 100 mins.
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Another: Infested Terran (units.dat ID 50) has "Require Creep" checked
Fake.
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Another: Dragoon (units.dat ID 66) has "Flying Building" checked.
It does? I thought I checked Requires Psi...anyway, it's fake.
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Another (not certain): Interceptor (units.dat ID 73) Attack Unit AI order is set to "Attack Unit" and not "Strafe Unit1"
Fake. Srry, this isn't a glitch or crash. It actually plays like a mod would.
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I didn't go into images.dat yet, because it's too big a file to skip through just like I did with the other files.
There's only 3 in images.dat left. none in techdata, 1 in flingy, and I'm not sure how many left in units and weapons...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-08-19 at 09:48:04
QUOTE(Lord_Agamemnon @ Aug 18 2006, 06:14 PM)
BK, you scare me. I never thought you were actually gonna DO it...[right][snapback]546840[/snapback][/right]
Ok, maybe in the end I am a nerd, but hey - I've been modding for like 6 years ok?
ADDITION:
Another one: Images.dat entry 16 (Defiler) uses Iscript ID 36 (Zerg Birth)
Another one: Images.dat entry 2 (Scourge Birth) does not have it's Overlay 4 pointer.
Another (not 100% certain): Images.dat entry 263 (Academy) uses improper Overlay 2 (Gateway's)
Another one (not really): Images.dat entry 91 (Ultralisk Cavern) uses Special Pallete and it uses the "1-Orange" type.
Another one: flingy.dat entry 44 (Shuttle) is under "Iscript Control", and it should be "Flingy.dat control".
Good old hex skills help a lot
ADDITION:
Another: units.dat entry 37 (Zergling) has an Air weapon (Glave Wurm)
Another: units.dat entry 4 (Goliath Turret) has a subunit (Seige Tank Turret (Tank Mode)
ADDITION:
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Aug 18 2006, 06:17 PM)
Of course they go to the contest.
It does? I thought I checked Requires Psi...anyway, it's fake.
It does? I thought I checked Requires Psi...anyway, it's fake.
But it WILL crash if it tries t lift off, and it doesn't have the necessary animations in the Iscript
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-21 at 18:27:00
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Another one: Images.dat entry 16 (Defiler) uses Iscript ID 36 (Zerg Birth)
??? No it doesn't. Entry 16 isn't the defiler either, it's defiler remnants.
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Another one: Images.dat entry 2 (Scourge Birth) does not have it's Overlay 4 pointer.
Yes. 75 mins.
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Another (not 100% certain): Images.dat entry 263 (Academy) uses improper Overlay 2 (Gateway's)
Yes. 50 mins
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Another one (not really): Images.dat entry 91 (Ultralisk Cavern) uses Special Pallete and it uses the "1-Orange" type.
Yes. 50 mins
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Another one: flingy.dat entry 44 (Shuttle) is under "Iscript Control", and it should be "Flingy.dat control".
Good old hex skills help a lot
Good old hex skills help a lot
yep. 50 mins
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ADDITION:
Another: units.dat entry 37 (Zergling) has an Air weapon (Glave Wurm)
Another: units.dat entry 37 (Zergling) has an Air weapon (Glave Wurm)
yes, air weapon bad. 40 mins
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Another: units.dat entry 4 (Goliath Turret) has a subunit (Seige Tank Turret (Tank Mode)
doesn't do anything...srry.
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ADDITION:
But it WILL crash if it tries t lift off, and it doesn't have the necessary animations in the Iscript
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But it WILL crash if it tries t lift off, and it doesn't have the necessary animations in the Iscript
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but, it doesn't have the button, so it doesn't matter.
There are:
8 Units.dat remaining
2 Weapons.dat remaining
Total to contest: 740 mins
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-08-24 at 13:42:39
I am not entirely sure about these two, since I can't test them in-game, but isn't the damage for Yamato Gun (ID 30) and Phase Disruptor Cannon (ID 77) too big? 5000?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-08-24 at 15:16:54
5000 is fine... you can set it to that in regular maps and it will still work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-08-24 at 16:09:54
I'd like to look through the .MPQ, but I really don't know what causes crashes. My choice would be to try everything in game and then check out all various related things.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-08-24 at 18:07:02
Many crashers can be noticed right away, even without running the game. That's how I spotted them here. On another note, you need to be aware what may cause a crash, which is a matter of the amount of SC modding research that you've done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-24 at 20:10:40
I found mine with help from DoA 
I never would have understood the raynor one if it wasn't for DoA... Something to do with spider mines...
I never would have understood the raynor one if it wasn't for DoA... Something to do with spider mines...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-08-24 at 20:56:05
Hehehe... 
I have experience with that one.
I have experience with that one.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-08-25 at 10:01:39
Here are my next 2 guesses:
!)Weapons.dat entry 77 (Phase Disruptor Cannon-Normal) has cooldown of 2.
@)Weapons.dat entry 100 (Neutron Flare) has cooldown of 1.
Such small values work for the spells because they can be cast just once or twice in a certain amount of time, but won't work for the weapons because they are used continously and will eat up game resources.
!)Weapons.dat entry 77 (Phase Disruptor Cannon-Normal) has cooldown of 2.
@)Weapons.dat entry 100 (Neutron Flare) has cooldown of 1.
Such small values work for the spells because they can be cast just once or twice in a certain amount of time, but won't work for the weapons because they are used continously and will eat up game resources.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-25 at 12:23:21
???, I don't think I even edited those two...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2006-08-25 at 12:26:52
You did.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-08-25 at 12:46:18
Tell ya what, DoA - check if all the crashers you have written down are in this archive, ok? And someone please test this cooldown thing for me, because if it does crash, then we would have two more, this time 'unwanted', crashers
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-25 at 13:00:22
So I did. But they shouldn't crash. It would probably act like the valks do - lockup the weapon limit.
I wrote them down as I created them...here's part of the list:
I wrote them down as I created them...here's part of the list:
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FLINGY.DAT
4. Turn radius to 150.SOLVED
44. Iscript move control.SOLVED
IMAGES.DAT
2. no lob file.SOLVED
34. Shadow uses normal iscript.SOLVED
91. Palettes.SOLVED
263. Change over2 to 175.SOLVED
FAKE:
167. Emp palette.
TECHDATA.DAT
8. 255 mana.SOLVED
FAKE:
25. Time of 0
4. Turn radius to 150.SOLVED
44. Iscript move control.SOLVED
IMAGES.DAT
2. no lob file.SOLVED
34. Shadow uses normal iscript.SOLVED
91. Palettes.SOLVED
263. Change over2 to 175.SOLVED
FAKE:
167. Emp palette.
TECHDATA.DAT
8. 255 mana.SOLVED
FAKE:
25. Time of 0
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-08-25 at 13:05:56
Hmm...I'll probably have to dig into these files more than I did so far. Or perhaps some of the crashers are so 'specific' that they can be found only during gameplay? Wolfs in sheeps' skins? 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2006-08-25 at 13:11:30
I had 60 corsairs at one cooldown going, and it didn't crash.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-08-25 at 13:12:24
T3h c4rn4g3, that's what I call it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-25 at 16:15:04
They don't lock up like valkeries because with valkeries the sprites remain there for a period of time, and the corsair just goes *PEW*. Well, that's my guess, anyway
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-08-25 at 21:34:33
QUOTE(Pie_Sniper @ Aug 25 2006, 12:11 PM)
I had 60 corsairs at one cooldown going, and it didn't crash.
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Well, there's a differance in using a weapon overlay dealing the damage than the actual unit having to move a certain way each shot.
Just think about it and you'll see that it causes a crash, the dragoon has to follow a semi-long script when attacking, making it cast another attack before the last one finishes would make it load 2 scripts, controlling the same thing at the same time, making it do completely differant things and confusing/freezing up the game.
at least, that's the way I see it...blizzard might have hardcoded a way around this...(maybe unit dies and script doesn't run?)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-09-15 at 12:10:59
With the mod contest closing, and I having given almost all my minerals, this is pretty much moot now. If you want to stab at trying to find the other changes that crash, be my guest. I'll tell you if you are right. Eventually I'll post my log on everything I did that crashes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-09-15 at 14:28:31
I'll give it a try eventually, but not right now. It is a very interesting challenge, by the way.How much are there yet to be found?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-09-17 at 11:35:04
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There are:
8 Units.dat remaining
2 Weapons.dat remaining
8 Units.dat remaining
2 Weapons.dat remaining
That's what's left. I double checked them just in case.