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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-01 at 15:07:28
Okay...here's how this works. I put up a question about SC, and when it is solved, I donate a specific amount of minerals to the Summer Modding Contest. the longer it takes to solve, the less minerals. Sometimes, I'll also give clues to help solve them.
Okay...so the are bigger amounts now...
Also, this isn't taking time away from FG...don't worry.
You'll also notice I didn't put this in a mineral forum...




The First question:

What does the cheat 'noglues' do?SOLVED: By Voyager7456(MM), 340 minerals donated.
Worth: 350 mins. -5 mins each day it isn't solved.
You have to tell me when it works/when it doesn't work to solve this one.

Here's some hints:

1. It lasts between games.
2. It does what it says.
3. Look in an MPQ for help.
4. You will not see the effect immedieatly after enabling the cheat.
5. It doesn't affect everything you find in the MPQ...only some of them.
6. This doesn't affect the computer or you during a game.

The Second question:

Modders, you know that the speed of buildings is hardcoded. If I wanted to make a unit travel at the same top speed, what speed value would I put in flingy.dat's top speed field?

REWORDED: Okay...first of all, if you change top speed for a building in flingy.dat, it doesn't move any faster! The Exe changes the value when the unit lifts off. Now, what is that value? This is what I want. To find it, copy the stats of a building to an air unit, then start guessing the top speed and comparing the movement of the building and unit. If you get close, you can use my divisible clues to find out the actual value.
Solved by dumbducky. 340 mins sent(odd huh...) Bonus question put up...


Worth: 400 mins. -10 mins each day it isn't solved.

Here's some hints:

1. Acceleration(DatEdit) is not overwritten.
2. This speed is lower than the flingy.dat speeds the buildings have set...
3. The value is not a byte, it's bigger than that.
4. I'd suggest modding then comparing a unit to the building to solve.
5. The answer is divisible by 2. And by 4. And by 8, and 16, and 32, and 64.


Good luck solving these...more to come as I think of them. Also, I'm not always on, so don't be mad if I don't say it's right just after you post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-08-01 at 15:13:20
This is rather pointless but to answer them...

1. this makes the computer unable to use certain cheats like operation cwal when you enable them.
2. 427
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-01 at 15:20:58
Not pointless. If I was involved more in the contest, the I wouldn't do this, but I'm not entering and I can't judge....so this is my way of being involved.

Oh, and neither are right...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-01 at 16:12:45
Does it stop comps from researching new technologies?

Random number: 346
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord_Agamemnon(MM) on 2006-08-01 at 17:09:07
noglues disables Psi Storm for the computer, doesn't it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-01 at 17:46:51
Nope...none of those are right.

Clue added for noglues....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-01 at 18:31:38
Changes the appearence of buttons in the menus?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-01 at 20:32:11
That might be an effect(I forgot to test it...ooopp), but it isn't the complete effect.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-01 at 20:33:08
So... You'll send half the minerals? tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-01 at 20:34:13
I'll consider it if I see the buttons different when I check it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord_Agamemnon(MM) on 2006-08-01 at 21:44:35
If I read the MPQ correctly, noglues would disable EVERY icon outside of a mission. Or at least radically change the way that the menus outside of levels appear.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro-Fire on 2006-08-02 at 08:22:11
max is the highest byte length possible.

which is....

4 bytes: 4294967295

Im not sure if its the highest... but its the highest i know of.

(byte 1 = 255 tongue.gif)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-02 at 11:09:34
As far as I can tell, noglues does not affect the buttons in menus.
None right so far...added some more hints.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ermac on 2006-08-02 at 13:20:00
Doesn't noglues prevent computer player from using any spells ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-02 at 15:04:12
Nope...added one more clue for noglues...I've only got a couple more to put up...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rikimbo on 2006-08-02 at 20:03:13
Okay... well, here is my flat out guess for the noglues thing:

It masks or prevents everything in the glue\ directory in the mpq's from showing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-03 at 00:53:18
No.

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Okay fine...not everything. But that's the most you get out of me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ForeverSin on 2006-08-03 at 03:10:25
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Aug 1 2006, 01:07 PM)

What does the cheat 'noglues' do?
Worth: 350 mins.  -5 mins each day it isn't solved.
You have to tell me when it works/when it doesn't work to solve this one.


it works when u type it in, and it doesnt work when u dont type it in?

ADDITION:
speed question: -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 HMM???
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-08-03 at 08:19:57
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Aug 1 2006, 03:07 PM)
Okay...here's how this works.  I put up a question about SC, and when it is solved, I donate a specific amount of minerals to the Summer Modding Contest.  the longer it takes to solve, the less minerals.  Sometimes, I'll also give clues to help solve them.
Okay...so the are bigger amounts now...
Also, this isn't taking time away from FG...don't worry.
You'll also notice I didn't put this in a mineral forum...




The First question:

What does the cheat 'noglues' do?
Worth: 350 mins.  -5 mins each day it isn't solved.
You have to tell me when it works/when it doesn't work to solve this one.

Here's some hints:

1.  It lasts between games.
2.  It does what it says.
3.  Look in an MPQ for help.
4.  You will not see the effect immedieatly after enabling the cheat.
5.  It doesn't affect everything you find in the MPQ...only some of them.
6.  This doesn't affect the computer or you during a game.

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It disables the "splash screens" during the Campaign.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-08-03 at 09:17:40
What are splash screens?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-03 at 09:44:28
QUOTE(Voyager7456(MM) @ Aug 3 2006, 06:19 AM)
It disables the "splash screens" during the Campaign.
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....and what else?

QUOTE(ForeverSin)
ADDITION:
speed question: -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 HMM???

lmfao.gif
Seriously,
Don't do that, please. Why not actually try a mod looking for the speed, huh?

Oh, and just so you know why I was laughing, none of those are right!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-08-03 at 11:54:02
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Aug 3 2006, 09:44 AM)

....and what else?

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Cinematics?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-03 at 11:57:05
No...cinematics still run for me. Try different campaign missions...

Edit: Voy solved 'noglues', he and I just saw differently on the text displayed before screens. So, noglues does this:
Disables glues before campaign missions. Minerals sent...340...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-08-03 at 12:14:54
For the first one, the splash screens and the intro paragraphs are messed up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-08-03 at 22:57:53
0400.041.05313

Good luck with that one. It's not easy to figure out. I don't remember if I did it right, but it should be right...I'm not even going to put it on the first page just cuz it's so obscure a clue. Easier(very much so) clue(s) to come...and another problem!
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