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I don't really understand this argument that most people seem to be using. If no one deserves to die, then why would you say they deserve to suffer something that you consider worse?


I would much rather be dead than be doomed to an endless life of being raped by man-prisoners and waiting untill I get shanked to death in the next gang rally. Death is more efficient, and merciful.

Well I was actually being sarcastic.

Because they need to be kept away from society, but I don't think that anyone except the person themselves has the right to decide whether someone will live or die, apart from in certain euthanasia cases.

The prisoner might have killed someone but I still don't think their right to life should be forfeit. They should stay in prison and that would be punishment enough, so long as the conditions aren't too cushy.

They may have problems with there parents, but that doesn't mean they are not responsible for their actions.



Did the person they killed or raped deserve to die? Did they have a say in the matter? Could they have intervention from the government before it happened? A person who kills another gives up his rights. Innocent people die though noone can prove it, but it doesn't matter. Most people would rather have 1 innocent person die than let 1000 guilty people run free.

The Death penalty is not very efficient because one must wait years before they are finally put to death. Keeping them in prison for longer because they are going to serve life in prison is more inefficient. I feel if a person has enough supporters they should be able to pay to keep them alive in prison to help pay for there budget that way less people can be killed and we can afford it.

Society in some ways is ruled by fear. If we did not risk getting in trouble we probably would commit more crimes. Yet letting the government run its people through fear is wrong, but if the government does not keep some of the people in fear you have to fear your neighbors or any other person on the street. Kinda paradox like isn't it? Its better for a person to be ruled slightly by fear rather than having to fear their neighbors.

Killing them accomplishes that too.

That's strange. For me it's the exact opposite. I'm dead against nonconsensual euthanasia (no pun intended), but I think that sufficiently evil people can forfeit their right to live.

wtf? Raping someone doesn't kill them.

Right. That's the only real reason why, at the moment, the death penalty shouldn't be used.

but the bible talks about death penalties does that mean its wrong?
[note that was not sarcasm]

The bible did use the death penalty for punishments. butt the crimes that were punishable for death we do not think it is deserving of death now. For instance if you raped someone or took someone sheep, that would be deserving of death. to our modern standereds that would defentialy not be deserving of death. they also had it so that other familys did not take revenge against each other. Another reason is they had know way to keep criminals locked up. I mean they had to move from place to place and it is preatty hard to keep someone locked up in a tent.

You said yourself that life in prison was worse than the death sentence, so why would we not have the right to kill someone, but have the right to apply a more severe punishment?

Because at least if the person is in prison, they could still be found innocent if new evidence comes to light. There's no going back on an execution, once the deed is done.

I do think that some crimes ought to be punished severely, but I think that there are far more productive ways to punish people than by killing them. To me it just looks like a waste of labour.

But at the same time, whatever time they did spend in prison is just as gone as all the rest of their lives if you kill them. Even if you do find new evidence and release them, you've still taken a part of their life from them.

If they're already under custody, then there is almost always a more humane way to stop them from committing crimes.

I've been thinking about it and questioned some people and the death penalty should just stay. The fact that if we keep keeping these people in these rehab centers wont get them anywhere. I mean its our tax dollars that go to a person who raped how much women or baked this amount babies in a microwave for just being placed in a center? Simply put them to death. Its been here since the beginning of time. What majority of people do you think will straightened up there lives or come back again for revenge. (is a dish served 3 times)

You would consider damning a prisoner to a lifetime of homosexual rape encounters and shank injuries being more humane than giving them the mercy of dieing?

Yes. From what we can tell death means nonexistence, and anything is better than that (at least from a subjective point of view).

That doesn't apply. The death penalty is still killing a person, just killing them in a longer amount of time, and with much larger negative effects.

Not all jails are like that, and the ones that are like that are another problem on their own. Although anything is better than death (IMO).

Look ^

To the best of my knowledge there aren't too many jails/prisons with life sentences which are particularly jolly places where inmates aren't exposed to other inmates.

My opinion on the Death Penalty is of the ancient sort, that if you haven't the will to execute someone, who's to say it won't come back to haunt you again someday. What if the judicial system collapses, will there be thousands of murderers released into the world? Granted that's just theoretical, but its an okay point. Humaneness generally goes out the window when you're discussing a vicious individual. Perhaps there will be some mistakes in the judicial system, but placing the person in prison for life isn't particularly better.

I don't think it really matters. Life in jail or the death penalty leads up to the same thing really. If I had to pick though I'd probably say no to it.

The costs is a different matter. After all the court fees and things like that the death sentence costs as much as life in prison.