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Does the death penalty stop criminals from committing crimes? Does it kill innocent people? Does it prevent killers from killing again?(of course) Is it a cruel or unusual punishment? I want to know what you think. I am for the death penalty because it keeps killers from killing agian and it does not kill innocent people. but tell me what you think.

I do not have a problem with the Death Penalty... that is, as long as it involves no painful, torturesome, or even slow process. I give a big boo boo when someone is sentenced to hanging, electric chair, burning on a stake, drowning, or getting slowly raped by minimoose2707 up the ass.

Hanging and electric chair kills a person instantly. But In short, I do not really care. They die, they die. AND PLEASE POST BEFORE YOU VOTE.

Well, actually it does sometimes kill innocent people.

If they're used properly, yes. But it is easy to use them improperly in which case it can sometimes take a while and is very painful.

There is no proof that an innocent person has ever been executed. beacause the convicted person goes through the appeal process. They can go 10-15 years through the appeal process and never get let free. so we can be really certian that a person that has the death penalty did do the crime.

I'm not for the death penalty because it is a cruel and unusual punishment.

The death penalty is wrong on all levels, no matter how it is done, what the crimes charged against were -- its just wrong.

Shocko, your logic fails way too terribly unless you support it.


* laughs at this statement * This is like the MAIN reason why 4/5 of the world killed capital punishment.

That is of course false under standard definitions of 'proof'. Please read this before making that claim again (I found that page in about 30 seconds).

My logic isn't really wrong seeing as it was primarily an opinion.

Death penalty is just wrong, i'm not saying "because innocent people could be killed"

it's just wrong because killing somebody as a punishment isn't right, if you want capital punishment, you might as well support corporal punishment; and if you support both of those, or want one or the other ( or both ) re-instated, then something is wrong with you moraly.

How is it at all humane to kill another person? Somebody else does something wrong so it makes it right for us? No. I'm an ignorant person I know, however there is no logic behind the Death Penalty despite the economic benefits and restribution for society.

That is why when people in real life say something like "it's about time they killed suddam" I debate it. Yes he did all those war crimes and killed hundreds or thousands, I don't know the statistics or all the facts about what he did. However its still not right.

I was also asked "if my parents were murdered by some male or female in my home, would I sentence them to the Death Penalty?" and/ or "would the death penalty be right then?" The answer is no.

Sure I might wish they faced the Death Penalty, hell I might change my mind and want the Death Penalty to be re-instated. However that is only because I lack in willpower to say otherwise.

It is just plain wrong, why can't people see that?

I don't find the death penalty wrong in any way. Some people really do deserve to die but there is also other people who don't. For me I just decide on the charges.

Here's some thought that I came across some time ago:

So if someone commits a real bad crime, such as murdering over 1k people and get's caught, what would you sentence this guy to? If you were a person who is against the death penalty because it is cruel and inhumane, you would probably sentence him to lifetime in prison since it's supposedly less cruel and inhumane.

But think about it, what would life be like spending the rest of your life in prison? Everyday you are locked up in some small, poorly sanitized confined cell. You have no freedom, you are told what to do everyday. You only get a limited amount of time to go outdoors or to the gym if you are lucky enough. The food you eat everyday is total crap; it's the same stuff every week. Not to mention the hostile environment you live in. You're living in prison with a whole bunch of other rutheless criminals; nobody is nice, there are almost no such things as friends. Since prison cells are so confined and tight, it is very easy to spread diseases among people. Anybody in prison can easily become a victim.

Life in prison is sometimes also cruel and inhumane; it's almost as if the people there aren't human but rather animals, even if you are not spending the rest of your life in it. It's mental torture; sometimes so bad many prisoners committ suicide while in prison. If you're against torture, well life in prison is a form of torture. And since I myself am against torture, I do not like life in prison. (However it is better than a torturesome death penalty)


Again, I am neither for nor against the death penalty. The death penalty (painless/quick form) is also IMO "wrong" but it's no different than life in prison. Here's how I view things:

Death penalty (ex: Lethal Injection, etc) = Life in prison > Death penalty (ex: hanging, etc)

Prison isn't actually completely like that for your information. I am sure you are aware of Maximum Security, Medium Security and Minimum Security.

Lifetime imprisonment for something like a murder of somebody could end up in Medium or Minimum Security if you are well behaved and they see you as not attempting to escape. In medium security you get a tv, a more comfortable bed, radio, phone, decent food etc.

What you are thinking about is Maximum security, but it is only right they get less quality equipment, it costs more to keep them in Maximum security.

Jail isn't inhumane, it is punishment. However I do agree with what you are saying. Rehabilitation could be used on a number of convicts and bring them back to society, as for people who kill 1000's of people, they can't really be rehabilitated because of the risk they pose upon release.

Personally I think we should make more publicly viewable death penalties.
First off, because gladiator battles are pretty fricken cool.
Secondly, the punishment system seems to be very secluded currently, and creating a public establishment of punishment means that there would be a drop in the allegations of torture and belittlement of prisoners in small unheard of prisons across the globe.
Thirdly, having it publicly viewable might deter some people from committing crimes, because they have seen what other people have done to those who do.

Call me barbaric, but I don't think our current death penalty is really stopping people from committing the crimes.

By that logic, Capital Punishment is the same.

Jail is for security, it keeps you "locked up" away from society and you become exiled.

Capital Punishment is for retribution to society, there is no benefits from it.

Murdering a murderer doesn't make it alright.

I disagree with Death Penalty and lifetime jail for sane people. i believe in forgiveness anyone should get another chance.

You're not thinking about it the right way. Executing someone is not the same as murdering them for the simple reason that it is inflicted on a criminal after a trial rather than on an innocent person with no warning at all. Saying execution and murder are the same is like saying theft and taxation, or murder and killing in self-defense, are the same. They obviously are not.

In my opinion, killing someone is worse to them than sentencing them to life imprisonment. If you're in jail for life, at least there is the slight possibility that there will be an amnesty, or you will escape and flee to another country where you are safe, or a flying saucer full of beautiful alien princesses will come down and rescue you- but once you're dead, you're dead, and none of that is possible anymore.

However, I can easily see why religious people would see this in a very different light.

This actually makes a lot of sense.

Yes there is. You get to make sure they NEVER get to harm anybody again. You also save whatever you would have paid to support them in jail (although as stated before this does not yet make the death penalty economical).

Another chance to kill people? Face it, some criminals are too dangerous to be given another chance.

If you say that I could just as easily say you're not thinking about it the right way, and that execution for crime is still murder.



Get me a statistic on how many people escape, then get me a statistic on how many of them got re-caught, make sure you cite your source(s). Then i'll take that as a valid arguement.



Death penalty is still wrong non the less, however what rantent says does make logical sense.



So we have to harm people, to stop them harming others? Who harms us for harming them for harming others?



Some are too dangerous, hense the Maximum Security prison, but sentencing them all to death when they could be suited in a Medium or Minimum security prison or even rehabilitation is crazy.

When I look upon the Death Penalty issue, I do not look at it from the executor's point of view; I look at it from the criminal's point of view, which one a criminal would think is better for his or herself.

I figured that, but I look at it from a humane way of some sort? So that despite what everybody wants / says, it is still wrong.

Other than getting rid of a dangerous criminal O.o

Except that you would be wrong, as I showed by extending your logic to other situations.

Who cares if any of them escape? If any of them escape, then provided execution and life imprisonment are equally costly, that tips the scales in favor of the death penalty. And if the death penalty is less costly, then it doesn't even matter if any of them escape because they're causing trouble even if they don't. Of course right now the death penalty is more costly than life imprisonment, which is why I'm against the death penalty in practice for the time being.

But as for the statistics, I'm sorry but such statistics seem to be very difficult to find. All Google wants to give me are famous prison escapes and prison escape games, rather than actual statistics. All I found was one reference to a figure of 3% per year in the United States, although this is overall rather than just death penalty prisoners.

What, are you going to say putting them in jail somehow doesn't harm them? Of course we have to harm them somehow.

Uh...wtf? It doesn't matter how good a prison you have, if you give them a 'second chance' and let them go free it doesn't do you any good.

You can easily say that, and I can easily say I'm Jesus.

No. 1: Yes
No. 2: I dunno, more killers?

It's not their fault they killed, they weren't taught properly. They didn't have good parents. Their parents didn't have good parents. Their parents didn't have good children. Just don't blame anyone and let them free!

This is not about righting a wrong, it's about stopping killers from killing more. Last I checked, killing someone is a great way to stop them from doing anything. You can go ahead and say, "put them all in prison" when prisons are at maximum capacity and you live next to one with a history of escapes.