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I didn't say he has bad aim, only that he COULD have bad aim

Here, let me clarify the whole deal about aiming, in one post:

Samus might have good aim with Lockon.
Samus might have good aim without Lockon.
Samus might have bad aim with Lockon.
Samus might have ban aim without Lockon.
Master Chief might have good aim.
MAster Chief might have bad aim.

master chief would win... he would snipe samus from a mile away then throw plasma grenades on samus and KABOOM

We've already said that it'd be an equal match because so many variables aren't accounted for. THis topic is pretty much dead.

How can you guys say they should FIGHT!

I always thought of master chief as samus cuz there both sortof the same they fight evil races! They both got weapons! They got a cool suit! And they save the world!

I think they should be married and i think i'm crazy

"master chief would win... he would snipe samus from a mile away then throw plasma grenades on samus and KABOOM"

A) We've already decided, as Shmeeps said, that this topic means nothing.

B) He snipes her from a mile away...
How the hell does he throw a Plasma Grenade that far...?

C) Now, if they're a mile away, then:
Samus dashes, reaching Super Charge speed, and, chances are, she won't get hit by a bullet because she can hop to the left or right every few split seconds
And anyway, she attains a sort of 'invincibility' during Super Charging, so the Sniper Bullet would be obliterated just before it impacts with her.

Lastly, when she DOES reach the 'Chief after a few minutes, she can:
Jump into him. At that speed, and with that suit of metal, that will kill him, period.

Jump over him, lay a power bomb in mid-air, then fire a Charge Shot in his back.
Combined, they might not kill him, but they will damage him plenty.

If your going to say this topic is pointless, don't keep trying to say who'd win. This topic can't be pointless because all it is our opinions and how we have backed them up. True we may ned to know some circumstances of the battle, but who would honestly expect them to fight in an arena in space, in a pool of lava, underwater, or flying towards the surface of a planet (or any other pointless scenario). I assumed that most people who read the topic title would place them in a battle zone where they could adequately fight. Screw the terrain and other factors. Just some open endless expanse of desolate plains where there are no earthquakes. Which by the way would NOT cause a tank to lose to a marine, most earthquakes occur without us even feeling them. The only way to have a tank lose would be to have a building collapse on top of it. In reality huge rifts in the ground don't appear because of an earthquake, thats all in the movies. Plus the marine has just as good of a chance of either falling into that crevacreviceeing crushed by debris. back to samus and MC

Same with MC. I think even Halo fans can agree with that. Sure he's genetically altered but his skin still burns to lava. It's his suit that protects him from lavaCough Cough but Samus is the exact same. Without her suit she would burn. But the fact is that they DO have suits.

I think they should be married and i think i'm crazy
I agree on the crazy part. They would never get married because MC is fighting to save his people and Samus is out for revenge against the Pirates who killed the Chozo. They wouldn't understand each other and they would never see each other outside of some battle where one might get killed (or both).

Samus's world takes place... in another world. There's no "Earth" in the games (I think) so they could evolve...
So where did Samus come from if not from Earth? Last time I checked she WAS human integrated with Chozo DNA. But still human first.

Since when does her aiming suck? IT'S LOCKED ON SHE CAN'T MISS. Unless the enemy hides behind a rock or something
or if your fighting a flying opponent because even the attacks that home opponents only have a limited homing.

Beams:
Her Ice beam as mentioned before does shoot ice. It is not a "stasis" thing. From the Metroid Prime manual: "The Ice Beam has a slower rate of fire than the Power Beam, but it makes up for this flaw with its ability to immobilize enemies briefly with a layer of ice. (there is more but it is useless to this topic)

Plasma Beam (again from the manual): "The most powerful beam weapon in Samus's arsenal, the short-range Plasma Beam launches streams of molten energy....
So if MC is far enough away (my estimate from playing the game would be around 10-20 meters) then her beam would not even reach him. All guns in Halo are not limited by range (excluding the new ones in the PC version (the Fuel Rod & Flamethrower) and the Needler, which by the way is hardly even used at all.

Wave Beam may be the best chance Samus has against MC. The electric properties of it may cause his suit to malfunction, but I doubt it because in the Halo mission known as 343 Guilty Spark, MC is teleported to a different location. This should have some electric field properties that may hamper with his suit, but it doesn't happen. And later in the mission called Assault on the Control Room (I may be wrong about which mission on this one) MC is required to jump into a stream of energy which only knocks out his shields. And even then the flood appear as if from know where and he still manages to make his way out. He has to repeat this two or three times I might add.

Power Beam is the closest thing to a Covenant weapon. If its so strong as it has been made to sound thus far, why is it that this beam is weak against the bugs that I brought up before? Without her charge beam these bugs take longer than it should to kill.

The Super Missile Combo is probably the most dangerous thing Samus has that Chief would need to be wary of. These are the ONLY things Samus has (maybe aside from her power bomb) that have the power to kill a Space Pirate in one hit. (but do space pirates ever get hit by the Power bombs in the first place?) These pirates don't even react to Samus's presence unless they are shot at, or Samus enters the room they are in. But if she remains behind the door they are completely oblivious to her existence until she opens fire. Chief could sit around all day making sure that he gets the absolute perfect head shot that would kill him in one hit. Or he could throw a Plasma grenade which would have about the same effect as around 1/2 to 1/4 a Super Missile. So two grenades and he may be out. Even if it didn't killl him, a few rounds from a MA5B, which has been dubbed weak, would easily finish it off.

Her power bomb as mentioned in a previous post does look like crap. There is no actual bomb. Its as if Samus blows up but somehow remains in tact. Doesn't a 'bomb' need to come from something? It doesn't just happen, there has to be a reaction. It stared with igniting gun powder and has come to splitting an atom. But it doesn't just happen. (don't even say maybe she is splitting atoms. For those of you who don't know this is also known as a nuke.) And it takes forever for any actual damgdamageoccur. Mose oMost is just a flash of light. If the power bomb from start to finish lasts 6 seconds, 4 seconds of that time the target isn't' even effected. Only in the last third of time does the target receive damage. MC can easily get away in that time.

regular bombs, don't even go there.

And overall I have found Samus to be incredibly lucky. Let me explain by once again refereing to Prime. In the first 'level' Samus defeats the parasite queen and must abandon the Space Pirate Frigate. Just before the exit she turns around and an explosion sends her flying into the elevator shaft. This damage alone has knocked out her Varia Suit, Charge Beam, Morph Ball, & Missiles. At this point she doesn't even have her Thermal or X-Ray Visor, or any other beam beside the power beam. She must regain all these abilities while trying to destroy the space pirates. Now lets say that the entire game on Talon IV is a series of doors in a straight line. Each key to the next door is one of the upgrades to her suit that she receives (missiles, morph ball, gravity suit...)Now what if the key to door 1 was actually behind door 2? She would be screwed. "Game over man game over!" (Alien who cares what #) She is very lucky that she has the key to each door in the order so that she can walk right through to the end. Lets say that the Morph Ball and the Gravity Suit locations are switched around but the rest of the game is the exact same. She's stuck. The only hope she has is to hop into her ship and go home. That is why MC is so good, he doesn't need upgrades for his suit. He can make his way through the game know matter which mission order he goes in.

I just realized how long this post is..wow If you read this whole thing I apologize to your eyes.

Ok 2/3 Halo Defendeds (Excluding Red-X) have become so cocky in their responese that they end it with:...
Why thank you for noticing. I tried to make my argument without sounding cocky. EzDay2, every time i read you say and all i hear is cockiness and trying to sound cool. I'm sorry but you don't need to say that to get a point across. You sound more like a grumpy old guy. F-this and F-ing that...you can't really be that mad...Its just our opinions and the old guy thing is another one of my opinions. (Which the constitution gives me the right to say ).

I would go onto MC's weapons like I did with Samus's beams and bombs, but this post is long enough I'll wait.

Ok old Samus would get owned but Jesus tap dancin Christ. New Samus would kick the out of Cheif. HAVE YOU SEEN THE WAVE BUSTER??? HOLY HELL IT PWNS!!!

lol this post is just rediclus!!! omg, I think this should be in the garbage section cause I think some people are doing it just for the money!

Oh uhh dude in Halo 2 Bungie released that there are upgrades for Chief but not weapon. Just enhancements to his armor. And now that I have read your post I think that they'll both kill each other at the same time and we'll lose 2 great games...

I still think Master Chief would win...but anyway...if you dunno what Master Chief and Samus look like... Note: Master Chief is not that Pixelised

By the way, for future reference, MC would probably no be able stand a single powerbomb, only with his normal armor. I recall EzDay2 saying a while ago that power bombs are "weak weapons"...

They're actually mini-nuclear devices that can literally rip through most materials... So don't say they're useless

They would oblinarate him...

Technically a shot to the head with a sniper rifle would kill anyone. Threads like this are pointless and a waste of time.

Yes but you don't gain these upgrades through the game. It isn't a requirement either. He can still fight anywhere in the game with his old armor. In Prime you are required to get new suits to battle in super heated areas, underwater, and in the Phazon Mines. That is what I meant by he has no upgrades. You dont have to go finding them to complete the game. He may start out with the new armor or he may have it upgraded in a movie, but not during gameplay.

Most of you guys are on master chief's side.. is it cuz halo cuz one happens if halo was a crappy game would you still vote for master chief hmmm?

Err...
Try to structure that so it's a little more understandable...?

"By the way, for future reference, MC would probably no be able stand a single powerbomb, only with his normal armor. I recall EzDay2 saying a while ago that power bombs are "weak weapons"..."

Bleh, I judge that on my experience with them:
I use them, and I decide immediately to:
A) Switch to my missiles and blast my enemy/ies with a few dozen of them...
B) Normal beam
C) Charged Normal beam
D) Run

They don't blow wholes through the floor on MP, do they? Master Chiefs Armour is definately stronger than the floor, there fore, could whithstand one. And don't say "OH< SHE COULD LAY TWO!!!1" cause by the time the first one went off so she couuuuuld lay another one the Master CHief would be gone.


Look, its an even maatch. THere's too many things that we don't know and too many things that are disputed, so there's no possible way to tell who'd win. This topics dead, we've reached an agrrement, end of discussion.

So after 4 pages of argueing its a draw?


Most materials must not include the "Titanium armor" that Samus has. And if MC's armor is a combination of different alloys, then he should be able to withstand it as well, no question.


Haha I love the last one. Metroid games are so easy though. Do you actually need to run? I think you only joking but if not...wow. The only time in Halo that I can recall needing to run was in the Maw when MC has to reach the launch bay. Other than that Im running for the same reason as you. Except in Halo you fight more enemies at once.

Well if this topic is closed without a winner Im really disappointed.

OK, there are NO earthquakes like what was said before and lets assume that MC has all available pickups, and Samus has all beams/visors. Put them in a Desert. Who wins? Jungle? Hill region? City? Complete darkness? Now the only factor to take into consideration is damage conversion which we must guess on based on the combat of both MC and Samus.

One question about Samus: is she just small chested or does she have a uniboob which is why she has the center of her suit jutting out?

What about if its raining, storming, uber sunny? Rain and storm would mess up samsus' sound deal, so Master Chief would have the upper hand. Sunny? Probably MC cause he has a deal in his visor that adjusts the light coming in. We don't know about samus. So many thing could affect this.

Uhhh?

Master Chief still has everything we've stated, even if it was a crappy game.

BUT, it has limited range, all the Master Chief has to do is keep his distance, and he could kill her if thats all she used.

So, .........yeah, I forgot.

Rain didn't bother me in Prime. (Chozo Overworld) Neither did being underwater aside from the limited view range which I can expect. So a little water should do nothing to either one. Light maybe if we were on a planet like Mercury where all you see is sun. But even then Samus can go to X-ray mode. Thermal might end up blinding her though. And since I have not seen 'Echo Vision' I wont mention it. I dont know where thay are gonna put the button for that. Z button? that would be terrible. Anyways...

Halo crappy? So why was its sales so much higher than almost any other game...ever? And why is Halo 2 expected to make more profit on its opening day (Tuesday November 9th) then most Movies do in their opening weekend? Im sorry but Halo was not crappy. The only bad thing was the mouth movement in the cutscenes and gameplay.


That thing robs you of more missiles than you will ever know. Its not worth it. Its not even that good. By the time a space pirate is dead, you've used around 10=30 missiles (big range i know but it is only a guess)

No, I didn't say it was a crappy game, it is an awesome game. Someone said if it was, would you still think the Master Chief would win, and I said yes.

I ment if she was using her "SOUND VISOR" or whatever golden fist was ing about. The rain constantly hitting the ground would mess that up.

hmmm how come they dont kill all of the aliens on the screen w/ on power bomb on Metroid Fusion if they are so powerful they would kill everything on the screen

I'm refering to Metroid Prime; Fusion's were only... some kind of item-collector item or w/e.

Prime's Power Bombs can kill any non-boss creature in a single touch.


And this is ing stupid. As Swap said; each games have their own context. If Space Pirates could develop some futuristic super-powerful sniper rifle, Samus would have replied with a more powerful armor.

Same for Master Chief, even though he "could" substain a Super Missile (still Prime), another one could easily rip off.

End of discussion.



At least compare 2 things from the same game...

I doubt that samus could withstand something that strong if shw could withstand more than 2 then so can Master Chief because Master Chief's armor is WAY stronger than samus'

Now that I have seen firsthand MC dual weilding 2 needlers or 2 SMGs, Im even more confident that he'd win.

Samus and Master Chief go at it, suits off, with nothing but pistols.

*Samus flashes her breasts*
*Master Chief gapes*
*Sames shoots Master Chief in the face*
*One eyeball remains in tact and flies off in a bloody mess with the viens trailing behind it. The rest of the head simply explodes in a huge gush of blood and gray brain matter. Shards of skull shoot out in all directions. Master Chief is dead.*