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You know, all this hate would stop if DTBK was removed as a moderator, it is clear that he has some serious lack of skills in the moderating zone, and there are many better canditates to choose from - so what he spends his life here, so what he was a load of minerals, i can think of like 20 different people that would be better as a moderator, includeding myself ( ) and i never thought i would say this. but Zombie would probally be a better mod that DTBK, and thats saying alot (no offence intended zombie)

IP, actually i have a convo with Clokr_ on why he isn't on anymore, its because he has school and he cannot balance it all at once, so he lightens up on SEN for the school year, he said he will be on more during his winter break, i have to convo. to prove it

FireKame: that was the most immature post I’ve seen you make yet. If you want to make a stand against the Staff / Moderators you shouldn’t just attack everyone in the position. It isn’t justified to say they all need to be removed from office and give examples of what a few of them have done. Regardless of your disclaimer (likely edited in later). Your disclaimer just discredits everything you have to say.

Now I wouldn’t be participating in this conversation if my name wasn’t on the list of course. But you put me on the list and haven’t given any example of why I’m a bad mod or who I should be replaced with. If you have an answer to this please do tell, I’m open for suggestions. The same goes with everyone else you named without any supporting evidence.

For your petition to have any value at all you need to have a replacement plan. Specific people who you believe should replace the current staff and why. Right now your just asking for the pot of gold that has never been seen. What do you expect us to do if you have a 1000 signatures? All we could do is look at it and say “yeah wouldn’t that be nice” like you would when strolling though the BMW Dealership.

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About DT_BK, I personally think he doesn’t moderate well at all. It’s mostly just his personal believe at how moderating should be done. It’s kind of hard to explain, but he tends to over moderate trying to imitate an omniscient presence that slams down on people breaking the slightest rule. He also lacks the professional attitude about the job as well. There have been instances where his moderating has caused more of a upset than the problem he tried to fix, for an example the signature contests.

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No it just lacks organization, the Moderators need to be able to respond the same way to events and act more like a group of moderators not a bunch of individuals with thread locking power.
An advantage of having several moderators is you can have a quicker response time to emergency events. Just because a few people can do all the work doesn’t mean that they want to or should.

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Isolated Purity, your awesome. I was beginning to think everyone had a 13 year old’s view on this and I think I respect you more now

About Isolated Purity: Isolated was thrown into this position pretty much overnight. I think the main reason people dislike him is because he isn’t as active with the entire forum as yoshi was. Yoshi’s level of activity was ungodly, he like read every word posted in the entire forum. Isolated on the other hand doesn’t go to all the threads and to make sure things are inline. Like he said, he didn’t take the job to baby sit a bunch of kids. I hate to admit it but that’s what my job, along with the rest of the moderators is for.
I has kind of took me a while to realize that Isolated wasn't just bad at it. It seems he isn’t as good as a admin as yoshi because of his presence/activity. Isolated isn’t as advanced at PHP as yoshi and he doesn’t know all the tweaks and tidbits of the webpage like yoshi did. But he is getting there.
The only thing that bothered me is when he was absent or very seldom her for a long time and I had trouble getting a hold of him.

Isolated if I had a suggestion to make to you, I think you should try to organize what the moderators do better, I think the main reason DT isn’t a good mod is he doesn’t know what is expected of him. I had the same problem too when Yoshi first made me a mod. I have kind of arrived at my own conclusion of what is expected that I do. And I think DT has arrived at a different conclusion. (that or he just doesn’t act mature enough for it)

It is obvious that I was mistaken, and I will step down.

Why? Well, after not visiting for awhile, I stopped by and I saw all these bull threads about regrets and flaming and horrible moderators, and after reading them, I realized how immature people were. So, of course, I wanted to have some fun and get in on the action.

I figured my petition would go one of two ways; either the collective whole of SEN would agree with me, or else they'd shoot me down and fast. I've left this up long enough, and I believe the verdict has been drawn. People are full of talk, and follow what the popular kids do. That's all.

So I am backing out of the petition. I created it since it had appeared that so many people had so many problems with so many of the staff.

Besides, incase any of you hadn't noticed...I already left twice...and I'm back, so me leaving is rather a hollow threat. lol...

There's truth in all of what you said, Bolt. That was extremely immature, for one thing, FireKame. There really isn't any need to attack EVERY SINGLE STAFF MEMBER. What have I ever done to you that wasn't fair and generally nice? Answer me that.

EDIT: Good.

I already apologized to you, aster. What more do you want?

OK, FireKame. Thank you, you posted while I was posting.

Let's face the facts. We have 200+ active members. Not everyone is going to like each other. I'm not saying we have to like each other. But we have to at least try to get along. Before you do crap, think of what you're doing for the COMMUNITY as a whole. The community as a whole neither cares, nor benefits from knowing how much person A hates person B, if person C is gay, or if person D thinks E, F, and G suck at moderating because they made a decision not in your favor. So keep cool, and keep truckin. If you don't like it, ALT+F4 is two keys away.

roger that hombre...ill try

Remove DTBK as mod and the hate will stop, its so simple!

Now that's a worthwhile, solid opinion worth reading. Admittedly, I should have dropped dt_bk right there. He was just too over zealous about something pretty damn small and tore that thread apart. That is the instance I spoke of when I said "I considered dropping him before, but I decided to give him one more chance."


I do try and stay active as much as I was active before I became an admin. I think I'm doing a pretty good job at it. Although, I tend to stay in 7 forums and not all of them.


I took the job expecting to do it though, none the less, and I do.


Maybe already there... perhaps... my knowledge of sen's coding is growing expodentially.
Prescence is an issue because I'm sleeping for work when most of you are online because I work 3rd shift.


My bad. Two main reasons for this, one is I just practically needed a vacation from SEN (already ).


If he stays a mod, I'm certain he'll know what's expected from him now .


Mob mentality.

Thats cool, we all have personal lifes (hopefully). And I have been having increasing events where I don't sign on SEN or am not active for several days.

I just noticed it at a bad time.

What promise was that? I would love to change that fact though (make it less garbagey).

Agreed. But I'm getting better, perhaps faster than you can see.

Sure you are

Lol that is just awesome,I now respect you even more, yoshi said something similar like that to me when he removed me from my mod position people people were angry because I had only been 2 months at SEN.

BTW: Yes I was a mod of like 6 forums.

I won't quote anything else because it was 3 pages reading.

Me do the whole DLDB alone? That is just insane, when SP did the DLDB when he was administrator(Before July 20 I think), SEN wasn't as active as it was now, we get at least 7 maps on a slow day. Sometimes we get 25 maps in one day(Other Map Team may not see it but I sometimes keep track and in one day maps may be approved at different times of the day and submited at diff times of day). We had have our doese of DLDB "spammers" who can uplload 40 maps in one hour. DLDB is a job of at least 2 very active ppl.

IP & Bolt : Those big threads were full of intelligent opinions with eveidence which STFU most of the people.

I don't think that mods have the right to make mistakes. They HAVE the privilege no; the duty of making mistakes.
All of you now think that I am crazy and do a riot against me.

We are all humans, we are not perfect, we will make mistakes.
DT_BK obviously made mistakes
Yoshi made mistakes with .php and he had lots of server issues and he made a mistake by bombarding icy-hell
SP made mistakes in his days as admin.
IP makes mistakes in .php but he still learns
Bolt, I saw him like 2 times give incorrect info in Mapping Help and he accepted it
Clokr_ has also had his moderating mistakes and he surely has done mistakes with his programs
Mr.Camo surely has had his mistakes in Art forum
Aster has spammed a little and he has done mistakes
MilleniumArmy has done mistakes with reviews
Xeno made a mistake in school causing his inactiveness
I(Yes I want my name to stand out) BeeR_KeG[eM] have made mistakes trying to learn how to administrate the DLDB and I have accidentaly approved/deleted maps from the DLDB.

One thing to all SEN memebrs, don't expect us to be a perfect staff. When we make a mistake we try to fix it ASAP.

Luckily my sister will be in Alaska for Christmas so I installed SC on her computer and just finished my first map reveiw. I'll have many more coming.

Thats very nice to hear that. Finally the whole Map team is getting to work.

50? I was thinking more along the lines of, Uh well 8
If i could make a clan with 40 people in it and have EVERYONE in the clan like EVERYONE else it would be a work of god. (sorry old clan leader observations comeing back)

Hence why I said "at least".

There's one reason I don't come on as often as I used to, idiots.

Most of the people on here are, Yoshi wanted me as moderator and I try my hardest. It's just sometimes to hard to handle, as far as I know people seem to like me, I'm the only one basically, DT is the only other that actually helps me. Also, Aster is barely on anyway.

I see no reason to point toawrds me because I try my hardest to help this place, I don't play SC so I can't give support.

And the Art forum, is just some crack place to request bad graphics. I got so fed up with all the reports from that single thread.

Who is pointing at you?

VB is a pain in the ass. PHP is a little easier, but it is still prgramming.

Er.. I find VB a LOT easier then PHP. VB has like no syntax.

Anyway, why am I on that list? I don't see myself as a moderator. Ok sure, maybe im a moderator of the clan (U) forums... How many people have posted there, and as far as I can remember, I have NEVER deleted a post.