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Maybe someone here should go over all the unit/tech names and recommend changes so that English idioms and stuff are taken into account.

I understand that the mod-maker has a good grasp of English but not English idioms and 'what sounds good' in our language.

The Shock Gun is a good example. Shock Rifle would be better, as already mentioned - a rifle is cooler than a gun.

Toxics Thrower should be Biosoldier or something...

Yea sorry all... my English IS bad... after all it's my 3rd languadge... thx for all help.

Your English isn't bad.
As CaptainWill put it, it's your knowledge of what sounds good and what sounds bad or awkward.
Considering it's your third language, that's kind of impressive.

Oh, and since I still haven't recieved the files from Aqotrooper, and he hasn't said anything about it, does anyone else know where I can get:
MPQCompressor
Ice and
IceCC?

ehem...

Is it just me, or do the interesting things with the zerg end with the hydralisk? =P

I love how the creeps, sunkens, and spores work. I wish ovie were still a detector they aren't worth much now, not like b4 at least lol... i might've missed, is there a unit other than ultra that detects? I don't mean spore =P

The hydras.... oh, the hydras.... they don't get along with the lings... funny thing, you have to attack with them first, and after they be dead then you use the lings =P. I just don't see much that's interesting unit wise after the hydra tho... i mean, ultra detection is weird, but...

look, the devourer deals a lower amount of damage to a large flying unit than the muta... now that's just wrong... unless it's splash, which i was unable to test due to the zerg comp not working! =P It made a spawning pool, and not a thing else... and that was even late =P.

one issue i have in general is that the attacks are a bit hard to keep straight, cuz they're all weird numbers mostly =P... it's hard to memorize.

outside of the beginning game, it seems like the zerg (compared to the other 2)are pretty much essentially unaltered, which i find annoying cuz i love them like my own =P.

keep up the good work tho, i'm always into coming up with anything custom idea wise =P... maybe i'll help with names lol.

PS: giving certain buildings unit pics... perhaps i didn't notice a change in the queen's pic? well, now the queen's pic is on at least 2 buildings, and that could be ever so slightly misleading, if it's also used for the unit.=P

I did. And the Zerg are too strong still.


I never knew it was your third language, then you're doing excellent, and definitely better then MOST people whos' first language is english. You know them people who randomly put the letter "u" in their sentence, and skip the word "you".

can someone explain to me how to make a mod, i want to reaaalll bad

the building zerg portraits were meant to be diff... some are daggot, some are zaez, some are kerry(kerrigan not Kerry), and some are zerg queen... it's just to make things prettier.
also, zerg new stuff doesn't stops at hydras, check out the new infested terran, hunter killers, mutalisks and mutalisk hero.
but units with melee attack like ling and ultra weren't changed in the attack since... they have a melee attack.
also, I changed the overlord so that now it's not a farm and a detector, just a transport, and the other detectors are just ultra and conolies, and infested if I'm not mistaken... the zerg simply don't need other fast moving detectors in early stages of the game.


you did?

well thats an award...
and they're still overpowered?
k, I'll fix that.


Thx , I was told when I was young that knowing many languages will help me in life and all... and now I speak 4 languages, NOT counting programming languages such as C, C++ and all my favorites


Hmm... I can but you'll have to read a lot, also, gimmi a day to write over all the tutorials...

how sad that the new sc.org doesn't have a modding section yet ...

ya, i used to mod about 3 years ago then my hard drive crashed and then i kjinda forgot how...

Hm.
Not very hard, in my opinion.

The tools are pretty simple to use, and my only problem is Hotmail won't lemme dl attachments that are .exe, .zip(I think), probably .rar, and a bajillion other things...

you mean d/l from an e-mail? just ask the sender to change the extension to something you CAN recieve lol... and tell you to change it back to what it's supposed to be of course =P.

oh so you couldn't open my mail?
here is a link I found to dl those programs not in SC.org:
http://www.warboards.org/showthread.php?t=4755&page=1
if it didn't worked dl it from there.

You could use Dropload I think it works for stuff under 100 MB. I don't know if Hotmail will still let you download it. While you're uploading it. It takes awhile also.

WOOH!
Thanks Aqo, I hope the site you linked lets me dl
FINALLY I can make sure my mod changes work >_<

ADDITION:
...
In that link, all I found were links to sc.org...
Where's the dl's then?
):

well in my opinion anyone who masses hydras can kill anyone if the game didnt last over 20 minutes. i mean come on, 110 hp, 16 dmg, splash, thats a lot. protoss units are a bit weakened also, its like the only thing that can keep terran and toss alive is the cloaked units like carriers.

UPDATE.

Changes:

Battlecruiser
Science Vessel
Arbiter
Archon(?)

Hydralisks are still quite strong. Make them do 3 or 4 damage. Because hydralisks are extremely cheap and have splash damage.

I think hydras should be about 7 damage, but also make them cost a lot more.

yo, his point for the zerg was, "time is their resource."

the hydras stay cheap. they take long to build. don't nerf them.

Just balance. Test more. Find counters!

If you can't find any, then sue. =P

and please remember, the splash hurts them too =P...


Now i would REALLY like something cool for Devourer and Guardian. I do like the increased attack rate for Guards and the higher attack for Devs, but really, if there were some other cool, maybe even original(you do have some of those <3) attribute to them, that would make them cool enough to make up for their "lack of a capital ship" sickness...

Now you mentioned a muta and hydra hero? where???

Kickass Mod, I REALLY like it, but could you do me a favor with more explotions?
(Also, make an option for the EMP using guys to turn off the damn Shockwaves, tryed using it in single, Starcraft became UBER hard.............)

Also, im a Pixel artist(Click my Website for my gallery), incase you want some custom sprites. (Ive never made a sprite before, so send me a good program for it)

hmm... open a map that has them in it and see... or create a map with 1 copy of every unit in the game and check them all, terran heroes and protoss heroes also have changes.


ehh...

Well I'm an artist myself and already making sprites myself.
I once had a request to make a new sprite for a zergling, now, zergling has 512 frames and it took me 3 weeks to finish (all new graphic was made from scratch).
If you think you can do better than I might call you for help, thx for the offer.


more explodions?
I don't think it'll look good if just like every unit in the game have explodions... :\
and I can't quite figure what you're asking about the EMP.


yah I'll try to think of something... modding is the ez part getting ideas is the hard part :\

thx for all the comments ppl, here's an update.

All 5-effing-12 frames in 3 weeks?
Holy...
I just can't dedicate myself to things like pixel arting enough to do anything like that that fast.


If you have Winblows, just use MSPaint, it's all you should really need.
Line tool, left-right click colors(so you can use 2 without switching over and over), both number-based color selection and square, fill tool, circle/brushes, zoom 1/2/4/8x.
That's all I ever use...

#1: On the EMP thing, I was talking about the shockwave things from, like the Hydras and stuff, I want an option to turn them off, ofcource trading for, lets say, weaker attack or something.........

#2, On the Pixel art sprites, I was talking about some fourm of program to convert them to the correct format for the mod, or something like that.......

Ahh.
RetroGRP, or StarDraft.

Hey Aqo, what's the changes in the newest Spree?

I'm not reading this whole thread, but that was the first mod I ever played...
And it ROCKED!!
Nice job =).

#1: oh... well, the onlt turn on/off ability in SC is cloaking and it's hardcoded, so to do what you've asked I'll have to crack the SC exe.
and even if I succed... memgraft aint working on my ****ing XP so I can't make a button for turn on/off.
sorry... if I could I would... but I can't...

#2: as Ezday said, it's GRP and I already have it, didn't you notice the cursor changes?


hydra stats, guardian and devourer attack, arbiter if I'm not mistaken and hmm... eh... I have less time for thee mod now since I wanna finish my map for the contest.


thx!

however it's sad you haven't played any other mods yet, look in google for the Zeji&Mekani TC, it changed 85% of starcraft's graphic into random pictures from random games (yes... stolen graphic... but it was placed well) and it has a total new campaign to play, it's really a great mod.
also, there is TheFutureNow5, an awesome mod with awesome changes, it's very very cool and make SC look better.
and don't forget DoomDragon, it has only a little protoss changes but it's classic and the zealot in it is just supreme...