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1. My point was that nukes suck, and are only used to either break huge deadlocks tvt when you are ahead or to humiliate your opponent so you win in style. Funny how you only took the first part of that, isn't it?

2. A player's personal style does not affect how efficient a strategy is. The fact that nuke tech+ghosts+nuke is so much more expensive money, (and time) -wise than a vult+tank drop + the extra dropships is why nukes are virtually unused at higher levels. Plus, nukes don't even do that much damage because all you will ever do is kill the nexus, the probes will all run away before the nuke finally launches.

3. Why should I make some of my own? That comment doesn't even make any sense, and neither does the link. I actually have a fairly uniquie pvt, but that is completely out of this discussion.

Yes, I said they suck. Now, if you have ever played a tvt, you can have the entire map and your opponent can have two two expos, but they can turtle up so badly that you really need to use eithe BCs or nukes to get in. In this uniquie case which really only happens in tvt, nukes have a use. However, they have no chance of winning whether or not you do anyting.



I never said whether or not you are good at micro/macro affects your style, but it obviously does. I said it doesn't really affect how efficient something is.

What you after that is confusing, because you say you should push instead of dropping, and then you say you should drop on their nats. I'll just respond by saying that you can't just add costs of units, because it is MUCH to complicated to do that. You have to count in what else you won't be doing in preperation for later game, what else you would be doing to your opponent, etc. If it was that simple theorycrafting would be viable. And spending all of that time and gas isn't worth killing a nexus without killing probes.



I can't even imagine playing zvt, so I couldn't really comment. What you should do is play with your style and post replays, instead of saying "this strategy should work" without ever trying it.

if your talking about tanks+vultures, that is the most non-unique strategy.


He actually has tried it, multiple times against me. It worked two times before i caught on.

i said pvt... you haven't seen my pvt

i've only played pvt with baja, and none of them have been conventional games (proxy rax, messed up wall, m&m), so I have been unable to use my normal pvt strategy.

also, your terran probably isn't very good (and god knows neither is mine), so using it against you (or me) wouldn't be a good indicator of whether it works

Nukes are fun... isn't that what it's all about?

lol, they are fun. I love nuking my friend. He sucks so bad.

Infested Terran are also fun, especially when u get burrow and cloak them... its so unexpected/awesome

can you still cloak lings with an arbiter? that would be great if you cloaked an infested terran and ran him in a base. lol, imagine someones expression if they saw that.

Yes Yenku, but i cant believe i ing forgot that it's impossible to do that in a game of melee, because u can't be multi-race, and well, u know what i'm saying

That will probably only happen in Money maps where you are protoss and mind control a drone. Or in team melee.

Rofl you can f with some noob so bad by doing that. MC a drone and scv, infest a CC, cloak and infested, and BOOM.

But that would require a P, T, and Z player.

That's just too complicated, by the time u fidget with all that shit, you should be dead already, and if ur not, then it woulda been to easy to win in the first place

Wesmic the point wasn't just to beat him quickly


That was the point, the ability to have some fun by screwing with the guy.

has anyone tried M&M verse protoss... it's actually a pretty good strategy.... it got me into a 45 minute game with Cheeze (the best player that i've played on SEN)... but he eventually had so many HT's that i couldnt storm dodge much even though EMP owns temps/archons

you're here!

1:1 right now?

ADDITION:
Oh, and I've seen m&m used on nostalgia becuae ther is no gas nat.

im on bnet now... ill probably be rusty as all hell, but ill play, im in op sen

i win, so we are 1:1

too bad you were rusty, we'll rematch again sometime when you aren't

damnit... i didn't save a replay... thought I did

im not very good with meleeing off of non-money maps(sorry, its the only maps my damn friends will play) but heres what i do.

i build of a decent mix of dragoons and zealots and various other units. i then have a mini second army waiting. i build four high templars and load them into a shuttle when they have full energy and have psi storm researched. then i attack the entrance of their base and scout with an observer to see if they have drawn the defence away from their nexus or w/e race they are. if they leave to get to the front entrance then i unload my templars at their nexus and storm all of their peons and other units until im out of energy. then i morph them into archons and flank their army and either fly in my second army if i have enough shuttles or just move them in with the first army.

Well this thread was about unique race oriented strategies, wasn't it?

Lol, Typical money map strategy....

I like my strat better, where you go DAs, and mindcontrol every race, get infested terran and permanently cloak them with the arb trick. Gold i say.

Gold.

Yep...only on a fast/money map. It would be intresting to see someone even attempt to do that on a ladder-style map .

So many UMS people just play Money maps, and they think that is melee.

lol what i hate is money mappers that think WE'RE the newbs

Thats the worst. You know what else is bad? When people have clan tryouts in money maps. That is retarded.

or this:

1V1 FASTEST NR 20 NO NEWBS XPERTZ ONLEE