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the both suck, but whats all this about psp having more features?

I'd say they have about the same abount of features, check out lost in blue, it will utilize pretty much all of the DS capabilities when it comes out.

Buying either of them is a waste of time, and the nintendo people are just morons for having two handhelds competeing with each other at the same time.

The next gameboy system(not micro)will own them both because... well it's gameboy and old habits die hard for handheld gamers, or anything for that matter.

Buying either is a waste of money.

Chu...ever played Resident evil Zero?

Or animal crossing (especially animal crossing)

Both had load times.

These also happen to be the only two games I own for GC, lol.

I dont have a GC, I've borrowed one from my friend and played a bunch of games on it. I believe you, I'm just saying that I said there weren't load times because I never experienced any and I know Nintendo doesn't want a system that makes you wait to play.

It is real. I set up SENS, Genesis, NES, and N64 emulators on my friends PSP at school.

He uses a different memory stick for each for some reason though (the roms and the emulators themselves aren't that big).

Yeah I plan on probably putting them all on a 1GB card.

There are 1 GB cards? Do they cost like 400 bucks? The small ones cost 100 each so...

1GB cards cost $100, 2GB range from $150 to $200.

Wow, my friend got 512 card at launch for like 200...

Canadian? Because if not he got majorly ripped off. The card should cost no more than around $50.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148025

150GB vs 1GB... for nearly the same price.

Yes, I'll just stick that in my computer, load it with my music and games. Then carry it around with a car batter attached as the power source and a monitor, speakers, keyboard, and mouse. The utlimate portable gaming system!: $1500, takes up only 3 square feet of room, and weights 40 pounds!

Or I can pay a fifth of that price and buy a device that can possibly have defects such as dead pixels, broken square buttons, and an easy to smudge screen! Then I can pay $100 more to get 1GB of space that forces me to do applications in eye-straining resolutions! Finally, to top it off, I'm forced to take constant breaks as the batteries must recharge!

Well, I had my fun, but I wasn't trying to compare the entire PC to the PSP. I just wanted your opinion as if portability is really worth getting 1/150 of the value.

Send it to Sony ... OMG FREE REPLACEMENT. I wonder whats that called? Customer satisfaction?


I CHOOSE to do that, and the resolution isn't at all 'eye-straining'.

You get a 3 and a half hour battery life, I know exactly when it needs to be charged and I've never had a problem with it so far. And even then there are batteries or products out there to extend the life of the batteries. I don't really give a crap what you say though, I have a PSP because I want to play the games for it and I would like to be able to listen to music or play games anywhere, watch movies anywhere. The PSP can do all that, nothing else can. I have a computer because I want to play the games on it, internet, etc.

Each was made for a specific purpose and if you can't realize that why don't you just stop posting in this topic?

.. So can PDAs (and more )

A PDA can play PSP games? Sweet! I'm going to get one right no- Hey wait, no they cant!

At least I don't have to carry discs around and I can watch up to 6 hours of movies without ever plugging it in. Along with hours of music and internet connection along with tons of other games, programming and wahtever else you could possibly want...

(bad part, not enough buttons for games )

DS is better than PSP because it's not made by the vile gut-wrenching Sony war-mongers who attempt to threaten the gaming industry every day!

Just like the PSP is a lot better because it's not targeted to children under the age of 12.

But seriously I like the PSP more because I can store pictures, movies, mp3's, play emulators, and play all the games I liked on the PS on it (like Wipeout, Twisted Metal, Metal Gear, etc). I've had zero problems with it so far, zero. When it comes to getting the bad system (one with all the defects) or whatever, I never seem to be or know those people. And besides, I haven't seen more than 1 game for the DS that I like ... and so far I think theres only a demo for that game (Metroid Prime Hunters). Every other game I've played and seen doesn't really appeal to me at all.

DS would be better if it had more violent games. Not some dumb dog game. People would buy it if u saw Mario with a machine gun trying to kill bowser. That would be funny Or if u saw yoshi swallow someone then poop teh bloody bones out, well thats my opinion that could make it better

Ouch, DS has like 17 hours without the backlight on and 12 with.

And yes, he got it for 200 American. That means no more shopping at Best Buy for him (that's what he said).

Yeah, 17 hours on shoddy, half rate games of you continously flicking a stick up and down on a screen. Real quality gaming there. I swear to God, I have seen a game just like that.

Sigh, I thought you were better than this... It's not that it's targeted TO the kids, but rather it has a broader audience than other games. I define "kiddy" not by a lighthearted style to a game, but rather if it is easy to pick up and play, in which it's not "kiddy" at all.

As for violent games, I think that violence is popular because it makes a lasting impression to people, but I believe there are other ways to do that. And there's Castlevania coming soon...

Finally, half-rate, shoddy are opinions as there are people who do enjoy the games. Tell me, why are they shoddy? Is it because the graphics aren't up to today's standards? That's a shallow reason, but take a look at a game like Starcraft. And I doubt you would be in the position to say that, as I assume you don't even HAVE a DS. And just to tell you, the games are CHEAPER than PSP games, so you get more games, which is more variety.

As for your flicking sticks argument, it's called innovation, which you rarely see these days. Just to let your stubborn mind know, there are games that don't even USE the touch screen. Finally, if you don't like the touch screen, then don't buy games that use it, but you don't even have a DS, so I'll stop arguing.

Finally, for the other arguments:

Wouldn't it be better to have been fixed in the first place?

But watching movies or videos on 320x240 does not compare to 1024x768 or large televisions, am I wrong?

But that's the problem.

Well, it's called a debate, where people of contrasting views make their points, so I'll stay. I do understand your statements, but I don't like adding extra money for less-than-great features, when all I want is portable gaming and the shoddy battery life.

I didn't even say ANYTHING about graphics. Why? Because I don't care. For me, flicking a stick up and down on a screen isn't "innovation" it's a thing called "stupid". How fun can hours of monotonous, mechanical hand movements with the only gratification being a high score be? Oh yeah... not at all. I'd rather have my hands stapled together then play something that sells solely on a "touch screen".

Hey, you want to know what else utilizes a touch screen? The self serve checkout lines at Walmart. It's not innovative to use a touch screen, I know they've been around for atleast five years.

If you're playing games for 12 hours straight, there's something wrong with you. I think the PSP would be best with an hour life of five hours, and some kind of cover.

Yeah man. What's the point of playing starcraft? All you do is move your pointer back and forth pressing random buttons with the satsification of getting a high score and/or beating someone.

Oh wait, I know! Because it's fun!

Revelade, Nintendo themselves have stated they target specifically to children under the age of 12.


With the screen the PSP uses you can't really make sure of that unless you test every system before it leaves. And even then there are chances of it developing dead pixels. It happens with all LCD monitors and more so as the sizes of them increase.

Yeah but can you watch movies or videos when you're nowhere near a TV/Monitor let alone DVD player?

No it's not. Actually I was wrong, the thing has closer to 5 hours of battery life, I tested it yesterday because 3 1/2 sounded wrong (that and I had to work on a map). If I'm running an emulator then it would take up much less, probably giving me up to 6-7 hours. Most likely even more if I'm listening to music because I can have the screen turn off.

Seriously though, who is going to spend more than 10 hours outside of their house or away from a power source playing this thing? I've never managed that.

I don't think it's less than great. Actually everyone who looks at me playing the thing is amazed by the graphics and games for it, two people I know went out to buy one after trying mine out. I would have gotten the DS, but no games after a few months came out that I liked. The PSP is out and already 5 games on it that I like. So it's mostly dependent on that. I just like all the other schtuff* thrown in.

*Alright these new cuss word filters are getting on my nerves.