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I'm afraid telling you is forbidden on the site. I'm sure I could send you a PM, but I'd rather not say it here.

I'm increasing the current situation which makes your reasoning, flat out stupid. If I'm smart enough to jack all the cars in america, it doesn't mean I have the right to.

That doesn't make it ok, if I robbed Donald Trump for 500$ it makes no difference if I robbed you for 500$

That should be changed, if your like dorkhawk here who dls all his games, music, files, and everything. Then sure that's ok. If I have a single kazaa file with George Carlin making a 23 second long joke, I shouldn't be fined 250,000 dollars.


This is suppose to protect it from happening, but all it's doing is punishing the people that acutally pay for CDs, this is what pisses me off. And people just complain about it and continue to dl illegally as if they don't know why it was made like that in the first place.


Concerts pay for all that iif the artist(s) go to concerts once every 2 weeks for the rest of their lives. Doesn't that sound fun?


Yeah and what's stopping me from going to your house and stealing your computer? Nothing's in my way now so i'll do it while I can! Anyone who has a way of "protecting" piracy laws most likely has a bad point. It's illegal, one way or another, is it so hard to pay 9 dollars for a CD, people do it all the time, you can make 9 dollars by going to your neighbor and ask for some job to do. America is just friggin lazy and doesn't want to pay or do anything. Why should anyone have an advantage of getting what they want over other people. Right now I would like to play Star Wars KOTOR 2, I don't have enough money though. However there's 500 people that if they want the game they can go on limewire and dl it, and 3 hours later they have it. That's not fair to people who acutally work to get what they want.

eh? who cares, ill dl illigel stuff if i want, o boo hoo greedy artists go cry to the cops i dont give a damn

while im at it soo can u numb j/k

"My friend" downloads so much stuff music, movies, tv shows, anime, games, and programs. and their all pretty much illegal too with cracks and cd keys. Its strange how he isnt cought yet.

NuMbsy, I still think you are missing the point...
You can't compared saving 40 dollars to killing millions of people. Duh, killing millions of people is dumb, but I never said, HEY IF YOU'RE SMART ENOUGH GO KILL MILLIONS OF PEOPLE... it just doesn't work like that.

BTW, the stealing money from rich people was sort of a joke...


If I were an artist, I wouldn't want people stealing from me... but still, I'm not an artist, I'm a young man uses the advantages he has to compensate for his small ammount of money.

Well, I feel that verpriced programs are a waste of money. Especially when you can just google them.


Label me:

World Pirate

Now that I have DSL, I am going to download whatever Ifeel like it, whenever I feel like it. Sue me!

That's the spirit!

The implications of robbing someone with a large amount of money, are reletivly small, whilst the implications of robbing someone barly getting by (not to say anyone with internet is) are drastic and life endangering. I agree that stealing is wrong, but when nothing is lost (you're downloading music after you've spent all you can on music) it's a victimless crime that only benefits the standard of living for the theif, while taking nothing away from the artist (who's music wouldn't have been listened to otherwise, due to lack of funds). I'm strongly against theft (I won't even steal a ride on the bus), but there are lines I have to draw. In summary, if I can afford something I'm intending to posses, I have to pay for it, if I can't and someone is going to be hurt (and if it's too complex for me to figure if someone will be hurt, I won't take it) by my possesion of it, I won't take it.


What I'm saying is, the people who are stealing music are the people who can't afford it (unless they're kleptomaniacs, who are bad), what are the chances they're ever going to be able to pay a $250,000 fine? While they've been in jail for possibly 5 years? (criminal record makes it difficult to get a job, let alone one above the minimum necessities of life). If they're kleptomaniacs, sure, take 'em for all they're worth.


Oh, you mean like a normal job (only normal jobs still have more hours [even including band practice], are usually something you hate, with strangers, and have many, many less perks). I know not every band is going to be successful, but being in a band isn't a terribly hard job. When you include the merchandise bands sell they still make a good amount of money. I'd like to know where you got the evidence that in order for a band to maintain their lives without album sales, they would have to do a concert once every 2 weeks for the rest of their lives, please.

I'm balancing out the circle of life...
I have another question, is it illegal to DL things like this in Canada? If it isn't, I'm packing my bags

http://grep.law.harvard.edu/article.pl?sid...233&mode=thread

That's what I found looking it up on the internet. I dunno if you're allowed to download games on the internet, I just think you shouldn't.

PS: A note on my morals: I believe it's bad to upload files the you don't hold the copyright to, but I don't believe downloading is because there's little way to tell if the file really is having it's copyright breached. Without uploading, there's no downloading, so the system works.

Lol, nothing strange, there are millions of people who download illegaly. Bah, Including me. Infact, I download my games, music, programs too. Theres no way this can be stopped. No matter how much your friend downloaded illegally, Theres no way for anyone to keep track of how much he did and how whatsoever, much less be interested in one fellow out of the millions. Since, downloads can be done via P2P networks and torrents. I mean, the chances of anyone being caught because of illegally downloading a game/program on the internet are probably like... 0.0000001

Really, it doesn't happen, unless someone close deliberatly took the time to tell on you to some nearby station. So in conclusion, its perfectly normal your friend has not been caught, its likely he never will be, as with the other millions, whom many have probably dled more than him. I mean, its not as if they have a record of everyone who downloaded illegally and how much and handpicks which one they think is the worst and arrests him, lol.

Illegal in Canada? Hell no! Only in the U.S. it's illegal to dl.

HA! i love canada its not illegal weeeheee, but the guilt is killing me, i just have to wait 5..4..3..2..1, done! The guilt is gone i may now start to (not illegal) download music for my mp3 player...

Besides like Aikanaro said no one will catch me, nor my lucky charms!!!

omg i said too much.

You didnt read this.

My friend claims the FBI sent him a warning for downloading via E-Mail.

I'd gladly accept a warning over a 100,000 dollar fine and years in prison. Seriously, if I was asked by an FBI to stop, I would listen to him, even though DLing this stuff is my pride and joy

If I ever get an album done, I'm not gonna release it on CD. I'll just post it on a website, so everyone can download it for free. And if they want to donate money, or buy my t-shirts or w/e, they can. That's all the money I need from it.

I don't make music for money, I make it primarily for fun. It's my new starcraft map making.

What type?

I download a ton of things. Music, movies, programs, you name it. I know this is really the "right" thing to do but, besides this, I really don't do anything else thats illegal. Every1 has their own little scam in life.

What are the punishments if you are caught downloading software?

you dont get caught.
I love it
I never pay for stuff anymore

I might have been caught.

I got an email from bsa.org

They said they will be contacting local authorities... So, I am kind of worried.

I tried to borrow... a Windows Tweak program. I used a serial number, and it automatically notified the makers of the program... So, I am a little nervous right now.

So, what are the consequences?

Oh lol, They did the same to my brother. He panicked a little. Its just a joke though, they use that to scare people so they stop. But in reality, they won't take action because they know absolutely nothing about you. Neither like I said, would you be the only one. Don't worry about it Forsaken, its just a trick they do to make sure the person will immidiatly decide to buy it or whatnot.

*Forsaken takes a HUGE sigh of relief...


That's a good joke!

Seriously though, all last night I was having schemese run through my head thinking:

"Mr. Goforth, you are now being charged for software piracy, of numeros programs. You are sentenced $250,000 penalty and 2 years in prison!"

Lol... I really, really, hope so!