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I'm going to say 5 simple things. Now listen.

1. In the arab world it IS U-sama, go to the NSA website.

2. Soot has to do with fireballs coming down the shafts (which is your theory basicly to explain the explosions at the bottom of the tower.)

3. If you put cordite around the entire tower on all the top floors, it can bring down a tower, oncethe speed of the tower falling is reached no further levels have to be exploded. This is what we call momentum.

4. Watch the farkING VIDEO! 'nuff said.

5. The fuel matters not once the initial explosion has happened.

No more further posts of yours shall be taken into consideration until that video is watched. Even Shady.Aftermath stated it had some very good points.

Bringer. You're acting like "The". You come into a thread with no knowledge, and start making accusatiosn with NO KNOWLEDGE of what you are discussing.

If you want proof, read the links Euro has posted, or get out.

First off I watched those videos last year. I said super heated air nothing about a fireball. The Video has horrible points. Most of it is fabricated and false. Yes I beleive Bush and Osama are great pals and have secret Wag the Dog plans but the buildings did fall because of the planes, either Bush planning it or not.

wtf.... which vid are you talking about? Obviously not the same one i'm talking about.

also its not because of the planes! Gpd damn your stupidity. Even the "officials" in the govn't said the intense flames "melted" the steel and caused it to collapse. Once the initial blast is done and over with, the plane no longer takes part in the destruction, therefore if it did't fall right after the plane hits, its the flames. Also, obviously you didn't wantch the vid i'm talking about (the one in arbs post) because i don't remember anywhere about usama and bush being pals. All I remember is an image of something coming from the plane and an explosion BEFORE the plane even hit the plane.

Well, I'm going to sleep, watch the vid. I've had enough ass-kicking for one day.

First off my Bush and Osama thing is seperate from the other. But you lack the intelegence to comprehend that because all you care about is being right you can never admit you are wrong.

Oh fark you n00b. I have more intelligence and an open mind. I accept things other people close their minds to. you being once of them. 50% of the people living in new york believe bush knew about/or participated in and brushed off the 9/11 attacks beforehand.

You are too ignorant too see that I am actually more right then you are. If you weren't ignorant you would watch the video. Oh but wait, you won't. Why don't you farkin wipe bush's ass? Your already his biznatch.

BTW you misspelled intelligence. Fool!

Super heated air is a fireball, you dolt.

Why is most of this fabricated and false? Because you refuse to have an open-mind?

Some debate this will be.



By flaming him, your intelligence has dropped ten IQ points. Thank you.

And yes. He is always right [/sarcasm]

He has the ability to admit he is wrong. But YOU on the other hand, do not.



Don't add flame to the fire. And who cares if he spelt intelligence wrong? It just shows his intelligence by him mispelling an easy word.

I have the simplest solution for this: Open-mindedness, Bringer.

But you're to egotistical and arrogent to have such a thing.

I guess this is what happens when a Mod is biased, and puts a serious discussion into null, where all the NULL ones hang out.

You are open minded yet didn't even read that I watch these videos a year ago. There is over 6 of them just so you know. Your 50% thing is just another thing by Alex. He added the or took part in. AP did the Poll and it was Bush had no Prior Knowledge or He knew beforehand. You call me a noob but that is far from making your self seem smart. If you are so open minded then why do you insist that Alex is right? I do not insist he is right or wrong I am just stating that I feel they were brought down by the planes.


Do you know what "Wag the Dog" means though? If I am so close minded then why do I beleive that Bush and Osama are hand in hand? Why do I beleive that they pull Wag the Dogs. It is because you are too closed minded to say okay that is possible. I know it is probable for what you said to happen though you copy it all from Alex, I just find it very improbable in my mind that it really happened. As for steel buildings and fires. Ever heard the saying "There is a first for everything." So please stop acting like a kid and calling people names when all it does is discredit you, for remember only those take offense when they are meant to take offense, thus meaning if you took offense then you are close minded and need to learn that life is far from Black & White. There is millions of other colors. Maybe get out into the Reds or Blues.

Also you forgot to use one of Alex's biggest arguments. "Create something so large that no one will beleive that they were able to orchestrate it." So please do not tell me to research when you miss one of his key points.

The video I'm talking about WAS NOT MADE BY ALEX! Plus I didn't get them from alex, thanks for your asumption. Uh lets see, don't say I act like a kid and call peoples names, I strictly remember an insult to my intelligence even though you could not even spell the word. For one, I have not seen all of his movies, and this ENTIRE argument had nothing to do with him. I did not once refer to anyone of his vids while speaking to you. I was speaking of arbs vid, which isn't even from his site, his voice, or anything. So stop being ignorant, listen to what i', saying, Do your research, and watch the farking movie. Case closed. end game. You lose. gg no rm.

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopi...58&#entry357158

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nuff said...

uh chris, that post 240 proves absolutely nothing, that little fox game shows just about no evidence and that site you presented looked like a geocities made site

This is getting stupid/

Here. I'll put a lil summary up here.

People who believe 9/11 was NOT a demolition.

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-Structured (Yes Structured) steel is malable at 800 degreese. It's been proven.
-The fire proof plaster was blown off from impact exposing steel to the flames.
-Cordite is not used by demolitions due to the low yield.
-Cordite although, is present in jet fuel.
-The "booms" the firemen heard were the elevators being knocked off due to the fireballs/ the floors pancaking above them.
-The fire was not uniform through the building, which contributes to it collapsing.
-The perimeter columns were destroyed on impact, the central column could not support the weight.
-There has never been a scenario like this, so you cant compare this to other fires.
-Super Heated air was what blew out the windows.
-Chris's "Puff" explanation

People who believe it WAS.

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-Bush has evil morals and wants to control the world.
-There was an explosion before the crash.
-The flames would not melt the steel. <-- disproven.
-Firefighters said they heard explosions. <-- explained.
-Cordite was present. <-- explained.
-There has never been a collapsed building due to fire before.
-Couldnt have been fireball because no soot found.
-Fell in direction of most resistance.


I know what your going to say next. Your biased and do not listen to others point. But all your say is watch the video. I'm sorry i've watched the video and it's farking long as hell. Why dont you POINT out what the video says instead of telling us to watch it. And "arb's video" is not a clear description it took me hell of a long time to figure out wtf it is. PLEASE REPOST THE LINK. And stop saying steel is not melt at 800 degreese we've already said it did not freaking melt. EVEN STRUCTURED STEEL IS MALABLE AT 800 DEGREESE YES STRUCTURED!! OMGOMGOMG!11!ONE. God. And you say we dont listen to your points. You havnt listened to ONE of mine.

Lets see, bush part is somewhat correct thought your trying to make us sound like asses, tohugh you guys are close-minded. There is farking proof for the explosion before the plane hit, its on the video and on every video that was produced of 9-11. Directly before it hit, an explosion takes place. Go to www.letsroll911.org and read on the page the words and expression of one of the senators secretaries.
Prove cordite is uded in jet fuel. I stated it wasn't prove that it is. There were also multiple explosions near the parmeter columns on the lower levels, and explosions riding down before the destruction. Get me a reliable source, a 100% proof that structured steel is malable at 800. Don;t ever tell me no evidence given. Also add that it fell in the direction of most resistance.


Can you 100% prove the plaster was blown off? The government said it "may have" not 100% did. Obviously they wouldn't know since they collapsed. As i said many times, it is used in demolition, and if you notice on the vid, it stated that a ring of explosions occured. HMMM you put even low yield explosives around the towers on each floor, (although alot) can bring it down. Notice on all the videos of 9/11 that when it collapsed it went straight down? Well obviously all the walls on all sides must of been destroyed for it to go straight down, otherwise it would of went sideways.
The fire wasn't covering the ENTIRE floor, so how would it destroy and melt all the steel surrounding the building? As I'm saying if it melted the beams connected to the supporting column it would of went sideways, pulling the other half with it. Not straight down.

Can you prove it was? It's more likely that it was than wasnt. The impact/explosion from the plane was more then enough to knock the plaster off.


But earlier i thought you said they only put explosions on the top?


Oh wait. Yeah you did. So youre contradicting your evidence of 'explosives on the bottom floor of the tower' please get your story straight. Were there explosives on the bottom or not?

I've already posted links to structured steel being malable at 800 degreese. I believe i did it twice actually. One of them showed that it was greatly weakened at only 650 degreese. I'll be glad to point them out to you later. I have to go right now. So i'll post again/edit this when i'm done with my work.

Uhh did you even read what I stated in my post? Did you even go to the sites? Obviously not becuase there is no Fox website or geocities one.

Plus you can't deny my proof, even with out links, just video, you can easly see your self that the structures fell top to bottom, not all at once like demos really are.

OK this has turned into more of an argument then anything else.
Before closing this I would like to point out that the CIA has had its hands on this situation for a longer time than you have. (Believe me I've seen the supposed firemans video from a tape we recorded from the actual broadcast, not the one on DVD, which IS different.) They have prretty much done whatever it is to the footage that they wanted to, because it was an issue of national security.

About Osama vs. Usoma, you must both realize that his name IS in another language, that would have varius translations for different sounding dialects.


The bottom line is that pretty much everything that has been recorded and studied has already been done. There have been previous debates on this topic by, lets say much more knowedgeable historians. And anything that you could possibly present as new evidence at this time would most likely have been tampered with, or atleast not an actual on hand account.

To avoid future flames and retorts.
>>CLOSED

Uh demoes don't go at once, I hope you know this... They take out each floor so that it does end up pancaking on itself.


On all sides? So that all walls and beams were melted and that it went straight down? If you take out one side, then its going to timber just like a tree. It had to weaken EVERY side of the building for it to collapse straight down.


Please go back and reread and stop making up lies, I said and stated this numerous times, The NYFD heard numerous explosions that sounded like bombs on floors 7,8,9 and in the sub basements.
Lets see, I shall go back and see those links, but no one can say that it melted at 650 degrees... its literally impossible seeing as it was all destroyed and shipped out of the country to be melted down. The only people in there were the contractors paid to ship it out, and the government officals. I also have no contradicted myself once in and of your quotes. So please stop making shiz up to sound smart... its not working. I said there werre bombs placed in the area of planes, mid-way, and sub basement. Just like any demo, you don't place them in one spot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolition

Uh ratant, I even said it was a matter of language! Notice I stated in the arab world (Where they have another language!) It was Usama. Please keep up.

That video that arb presented has not been tampered for a couple reasons... it shows the explosion before the plane hit on numerous videos, and if you would go and download the actual CNN video and slow it down, you too would see it. Maybe they tampered CNN's TOO!!!!! OH NOES!!!