Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-10 at 00:35:53
The police are militarized, blacks were militarized with ID Bracelets in New Orleans, they are rounding up protesters, infiltrating peaceful protests with secret police, taking down raves with national guard units.
Heres some proof.
http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/enslavement.htm - the vid
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/august200...805utahrave.htm
http://www.infowars.com/police_state.html
more to come.
Heres some proof.
http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/enslavement.htm - the vid
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/august200...805utahrave.htm
http://www.infowars.com/police_state.html
more to come.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-10 at 00:41:33
The first one doesn't play.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-10 at 00:47:04
I just tested it... it works. You up to date with windows media player?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-10 at 00:53:01
I use OSX. I have a version of WMP, evidently not up to date..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-10 at 00:57:05
oh... i c... sorry never owned a mac so wouldn't know. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PingTheCow on 2006-01-10 at 02:53:49
Alex Jones is a nut case and liar. Most of his stuff can easily be proven wrong. The Most the National Guard did in New Orleans was sit and wait due to 80% of their supplies being in Iraq. Not to mention they tried handing out MRE's to the people at the Center and other places and the majority of them refused saying it was crap and so on. My Mom is in the National Guard and was in New Orleans for a month. This Alex Jones guy was too busy making up stories to even help out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-10 at 03:00:35
You can't honestly believe this is serious..
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-10 at 07:11:08
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Alex Jones is a nut case and liar. Most of his stuff can easily be proven wrong. The Most the National Guard did in New Orleans was sit and wait due to 80% of their supplies being in Iraq. Not to mention they tried handing out MRE's to the people at the Center and other places and the majority of them refused saying it was crap and so on. My Mom is in the National Guard and was in New Orleans for a month. This Alex Jones guy was too busy making up stories to even help out.
Well unless you have definate proof, theres no reason not to believe. Show us concrete proof thats not from cnn, fox, or the government. Can easily be proved wrong. Then do it! BTW I shall fight fire with fire. You say your mom was in the NG... Am I supposed to believe that? Well I can easily say My brother is in the NG and they were doing this. proof, buddy, proof.
BTW DTBK Show us how it isn't be serious. If most of this is true (it can be without proof against it. Ifyou watched the entire video.) Then it is serious. Did you even watch the whole video or just write it off and be an meanie? BTW show how it isn't serious with proof. If I said what you just did in a topic it would be called spam.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valug on 2006-01-10 at 07:39:21
[sub]I watched the whole thing, but one thing that got me, alot of his sources were online news articles. I don't know about you, but I don't trust things said on online news sites.[/sub]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-10 at 14:50:09
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You can't honestly believe this is serious..
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Why? Because it conflicts with your opinion? The point of Serious Discussion is to discuss and debate SERIOUS issues (In my eyes, this is serious)
How in the hell can a topic about Drugs be more serious than this? How about "Your position on the war"? Seriously man, those aren't very "serious" as you like to use the word.
What about "What is life?"? How about "Everything happens for a reason"
Avian Flu? How is that more important than the possible corruption of a super power?
This is more serious than most Serious Discussion topics..
You're a moderator. You're supposed to rule with an just, iron fist of equality.. You rule with hastey biased opinions...
Some moderator you are.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-01-10 at 15:01:57
I think this can lead to quite a serious discussion.
I, for one, don't think it's good to trust things that are purely internet based. All three links lead to the same site anyways...
I, for one, don't think it's good to trust things that are purely internet based. All three links lead to the same site anyways...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-10 at 15:04:32
I forgot to add in that part about the author's sources are all internet based..
I do believe that it is possible, and should be a serious discussion. But the fact the sources are all online is a bit, MEH.
So why not just discuss the possibility? Hence the SERIOUS part (Directed at DTBK -_-)
I do believe that it is possible, and should be a serious discussion. But the fact the sources are all online is a bit, MEH.
So why not just discuss the possibility? Hence the SERIOUS part (Directed at DTBK -_-)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-10 at 16:01:38
I didn't believe EVERYTHING. but I mean, he uncovered the bohemian grove, he shows the cops dressing as civilians in a PEACEFUL protest, and those cops at the end without badges who would not show them Even the government has said do not trust them unless they have a badge number or are willing to show you (because as he said the women being raped by pretend police officers)
He can't be in it for money, because he even encouraged giving copied versions of his film to friends, family, etc. but for non-profit only. Hells yes I'm going to copy it. Make an .iso and send it out.
I believe the 9/11 incident was concieved, because its just like the burning of the reichstag, a national incident which urged nazi germany to war. Through perpetuous warfare, a government can limit the rights of its citizens through giving them "security". You've all seen the patriot act, as Bush says, it provides increased security. In the Washington times on 07/22/02, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., a Delaware democrat strongly endorsed giving soldiers the power to arrest citizens for "civil disobediance". This goes against the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. In the act it forbids this. This sort of power could lead to a full on Police State. We already have machines that scan the money in your wallet/pocket telling them how much cash your are currently carrying. Now they are going for little RIAD chips in your hand that can tell them other information. How far will they go to know every little detail about your life and what you are doing. Commiting a crime or no, invading an individuals privacy is horrible. I know I hate it when I'm on the phone and my dad stands in the doorway, but to have someone listening in that I don't even know about or can see is just plain creepy/wrong.
Discuss...
He can't be in it for money, because he even encouraged giving copied versions of his film to friends, family, etc. but for non-profit only. Hells yes I'm going to copy it. Make an .iso and send it out.
I believe the 9/11 incident was concieved, because its just like the burning of the reichstag, a national incident which urged nazi germany to war. Through perpetuous warfare, a government can limit the rights of its citizens through giving them "security". You've all seen the patriot act, as Bush says, it provides increased security. In the Washington times on 07/22/02, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., a Delaware democrat strongly endorsed giving soldiers the power to arrest citizens for "civil disobediance". This goes against the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. In the act it forbids this. This sort of power could lead to a full on Police State. We already have machines that scan the money in your wallet/pocket telling them how much cash your are currently carrying. Now they are going for little RIAD chips in your hand that can tell them other information. How far will they go to know every little detail about your life and what you are doing. Commiting a crime or no, invading an individuals privacy is horrible. I know I hate it when I'm on the phone and my dad stands in the doorway, but to have someone listening in that I don't even know about or can see is just plain creepy/wrong.
Discuss...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by VizuaL on 2006-01-10 at 16:08:41
yep, i have a topic in serious discussion related to this, its about the new american century, i think half life 2 is kinda like wats gonna happen soon
we might revolt and cause war
we might revolt and cause war
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-10 at 17:30:44
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http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=25530&hl=
An open rebellion is improbable and impossible in the state of times. It has been assured that it cannot happen. Gun control laws, advanced surviellence, trained army, missles, nukes, etc. The only type of rebellion that could happen would be the type that occurs in 1984, where each member only knows a handful of ppl inside the rebellion, its not an open rebellion, its a secret one. If your caught you can only rat out a small number, not even the leader knows who every member is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PingTheCow on 2006-01-11 at 23:57:43
Well I can prove my mom is in the National Guard very Easily. She is in the 1221st Trans Corp. 1st Det under 70th Troop Command. They are being changed to 1st Det. 128th Field Artillery Battery as a Foward Support Unit. They will not operate the Artillery but will be the drivers of the Hemmits that transport the Artillery. In 2003 they were deployed over in Iraq which then the 1221st was Attached to the 82nd Airborn. Do you need more proof just tell me I can provide it.
Edit: You have been highly brainwashed by Alex Jones. Sure the government may have helped with 9/11 but before you find me solid proof that they were involved or that they orchestrated it, be quiet with your you don't proof bullshiz.
Edit: You have been highly brainwashed by Alex Jones. Sure the government may have helped with 9/11 but before you find me solid proof that they were involved or that they orchestrated it, be quiet with your you don't proof bullshiz.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-12 at 00:19:06
I doubt i've been "highly brainwashed" when you probably been highly brainwashed by the government. More likely to the latter. BTW you failed to prove anything other then about your mother. I thought you could easily... BTW pathetic excuse for an argument. Both posts except for your mother part are spam. They offer no place for an argument or discussion. Endo Gamo for you my friend.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/introduction.html
Check that out and keep going till the conclusion page. Hit 'next' at bottom right.
Just so you know, its never going to change. Every government has a propaganda machine, they try to have the people ignorant to their operations. Did you ever hear of Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr, from Delaware? Well he strongly endorsed and wanted to pass giving soldiers the right to arrest people, an important police state trait. He wanted Posse comitatus Act of 1878 "amended". Since it wasn't passed, they have begun to militarize the police. Ever hear of Operation Urban Warrior? Yes alex Jones did the story, but I read about it first not from him but from 2 other sources. It was a training exercise along with foriegn soldiers using martial law in cities. They went around rounding up the citizens, while at the same time having the citizens (who are really actors) cry out that their rights are being violated and that they wanted food and water. They were trained to ignore them and tell them to be good citizens. hmmm, strange.
http://www.elfis.net/phorum/read.php?f=23&i=32&t=32
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/720129/posts
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_article...ice_powers.html
EDIT:
Right there shows you can prove about your mom, but the rest is just opinion.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/introduction.html
Check that out and keep going till the conclusion page. Hit 'next' at bottom right.
Just so you know, its never going to change. Every government has a propaganda machine, they try to have the people ignorant to their operations. Did you ever hear of Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr, from Delaware? Well he strongly endorsed and wanted to pass giving soldiers the right to arrest people, an important police state trait. He wanted Posse comitatus Act of 1878 "amended". Since it wasn't passed, they have begun to militarize the police. Ever hear of Operation Urban Warrior? Yes alex Jones did the story, but I read about it first not from him but from 2 other sources. It was a training exercise along with foriegn soldiers using martial law in cities. They went around rounding up the citizens, while at the same time having the citizens (who are really actors) cry out that their rights are being violated and that they wanted food and water. They were trained to ignore them and tell them to be good citizens. hmmm, strange.
http://www.elfis.net/phorum/read.php?f=23&i=32&t=32
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/720129/posts
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_article...ice_powers.html
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Well I can
Right there shows you can prove about your mom, but the rest is just opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-12 at 00:35:15
QUOTE(PingTheCow @ Jan 11 2006, 09:57 PM)
Well I can prove my mom is in the National Guard very Easily. She is in the 1221st Trans Corp. 1st Det under 70th Troop Command. They are being changed to 1st Det. 128th Field Artillery Battery as a Foward Support Unit. They will not operate the Artillery but will be the drivers of the Hemmits that transport the Artillery. In 2003 they were deployed over in Iraq which then the 1221st was Attached to the 82nd Airborn. Do you need more proof just tell me I can provide it.
Edit: You have been highly brainwashed by Alex Jones. Sure the government may have helped with 9/11 but before you find me solid proof that they were involved or that they orchestrated it, be quiet with your you don't proof bullshiz.
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Hey, guess what? We don't care if your mom is in the National Guard, that doesn't prove anything against his arguement, so why try to build an arguement against him with "My mom's in the National Guard!"
Total greenieness
And he is brainwashed? Ummm. No. He is open-minded, unlike you.
Btw... Learn to build solid arguements.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-12 at 02:21:49
For those of you who know not, this is a brief history on Alex Jones.
He also has a vid made in July of 2001 predicting that globalists will attack New York and blame it on their asset osama.
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As featured in such publications as The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Dallas Morning News, The Los Angeles Times, The Austin-American Statesman, and The Austin Chronicle, Alex Jones has created a powerful platform in an attempt to re-create a Bill of Rights, freedom-orientated culture in the face of an ever more federalized and securiy-obsessed America.
Alex Jones broadcasts nationwide on the Genesis Communications Radio Network. More information on the broadcast can be found here.
In the Summer of 2000, Alex successfully infiltrated Bohemian Grove, meeeting place for the global elite in an ancient redwood forest of northern California. This was documented by World of Wonder in their 'Secret Rulers of the World' series, shown in the UK on Channel 4 and aired nationwide in the US multiple times on the Trio Network.
Alex's documentary, Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove, features the infiltration plus the history of the Grove.
Alex is known for not just talking the talk, but walking the walk. He combines his media presence with actual physical activism, a practice that once led to him being arrested on the personal order of George W. Bush!
Alex Jones has gained international attention for standing up for what he believes in. From the Italy's La Prensa to the Wall Street Journal and USA Today, Jones has brought the information war to the mainstream print media worldwide, speaking out against tyranny in defense of the Constitution.
Jones has produced eleven documentary films to date exposing the police state, the New World Order and government sponsored terrorism.
His most recent is Martial Law, a three hour blockbuster which exposes the brutal treatment of protesters at the 2004 RNC conference, the real story behind 9/11, the occult connections ofsecret societies, the push to make Arnold Schwarzenegger the first foreign born president and much more.
Featured on "Good Morning America," "20/20 Downtown," "60 Minutes," The Discovery Channel, A&E and more, Jones appears on multiple stations across the country, and has been called, "an absolutely riveting television presence," by Patrick Beech of the Austin-American Statesman. Mike Kelley, also of the Austin-American Statesman, said of Mr. Jones, "On television, he exudes so much energy that a viewer might almost expect bits of flesh to start flying from the screen."
Alex Jones was recognized as "Best Radio Host" in the 1999 Austin Chronicle Reader's Poll, "Best TV Host" in the 2001 Austin Chronicle Reader's Poll, "Best Mover and Shaker" in the 2002 Austin Chronicle Reader's Poll. His website, Infowars.com was voted "Best Webzine" in that same poll.
Jones' recent media and television appearances include Vanity Fair, Sky One (UK), Channel 4 (UK), Country Music Television and America's Most Widely Listned-to late night radio show: Coast to Coast AM.
Alex Jones broadcasts nationwide on the Genesis Communications Radio Network. More information on the broadcast can be found here.
In the Summer of 2000, Alex successfully infiltrated Bohemian Grove, meeeting place for the global elite in an ancient redwood forest of northern California. This was documented by World of Wonder in their 'Secret Rulers of the World' series, shown in the UK on Channel 4 and aired nationwide in the US multiple times on the Trio Network.
Alex's documentary, Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove, features the infiltration plus the history of the Grove.
Alex is known for not just talking the talk, but walking the walk. He combines his media presence with actual physical activism, a practice that once led to him being arrested on the personal order of George W. Bush!
Alex Jones has gained international attention for standing up for what he believes in. From the Italy's La Prensa to the Wall Street Journal and USA Today, Jones has brought the information war to the mainstream print media worldwide, speaking out against tyranny in defense of the Constitution.
Jones has produced eleven documentary films to date exposing the police state, the New World Order and government sponsored terrorism.
His most recent is Martial Law, a three hour blockbuster which exposes the brutal treatment of protesters at the 2004 RNC conference, the real story behind 9/11, the occult connections ofsecret societies, the push to make Arnold Schwarzenegger the first foreign born president and much more.
Featured on "Good Morning America," "20/20 Downtown," "60 Minutes," The Discovery Channel, A&E and more, Jones appears on multiple stations across the country, and has been called, "an absolutely riveting television presence," by Patrick Beech of the Austin-American Statesman. Mike Kelley, also of the Austin-American Statesman, said of Mr. Jones, "On television, he exudes so much energy that a viewer might almost expect bits of flesh to start flying from the screen."
Alex Jones was recognized as "Best Radio Host" in the 1999 Austin Chronicle Reader's Poll, "Best TV Host" in the 2001 Austin Chronicle Reader's Poll, "Best Mover and Shaker" in the 2002 Austin Chronicle Reader's Poll. His website, Infowars.com was voted "Best Webzine" in that same poll.
Jones' recent media and television appearances include Vanity Fair, Sky One (UK), Channel 4 (UK), Country Music Television and America's Most Widely Listned-to late night radio show: Coast to Coast AM.
He also has a vid made in July of 2001 predicting that globalists will attack New York and blame it on their asset osama.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-12 at 02:39:16
Let's not forget 'Loose Change', Jones' [relatively] lengthy discourse on the subject of September 11th:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...=loose%20change
This video makes some excellent points and observations, and all conclusions drawn in it are made by reasoning based on evidence.
I think perhaps the most damning evidence is at 21:17 elapsed.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...=loose%20change
This video makes some excellent points and observations, and all conclusions drawn in it are made by reasoning based on evidence.
I think perhaps the most damning evidence is at 21:17 elapsed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-01-12 at 02:44:30
Well I have to take the source down a notch when it begins with "Alex Jones Presents"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-12 at 02:48:24
Yeah I probably misrepresented that a bit, but he's still associated with this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PingTheCow on 2006-01-12 at 11:53:48
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Well unless you have definate proof, theres no reason not to believe. Show us concrete proof thats not from cnn, fox, or the government. Can easily be proved wrong. Then do it! BTW I shall fight fire with fire. You say your mom was in the NG... Am I supposed to believe that? Well I can easily say My brother is in the NG and they were doing this. proof, buddy, proof.[right][snapback]403428[/snapback][/right]
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Hey, guess what? We don't care if your mom is in the National Guard, that doesn't prove anything against his arguement, so why try to build an arguement against him with "My mom's in the National Guard!"
Total greenieness
And he is brainwashed? Ummm. No. He is open-minded, unlike you.
Btw... Learn to build solid arguements.
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Total greenieness
And he is brainwashed? Ummm. No. He is open-minded, unlike you.
Btw... Learn to build solid arguements.
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I was argueing back about he saying my mom wasn't. I used that she was their as a bases to prove that Jone's New Orleans Media is false as hell. As for being closed minded I am not. As for "Operation Urban Warrior" all military units are required to under go training in the case that Marshal Law is declared due to a terrorist attack for the Soldiers to be able to know how to act. They detain those that cause trouble which is needed. Its called contingency. As for some of his videos you ever thought that he hired actors? Not hard to have actors lie. I will post more later. I have research to do on the NSA for a debate I have.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-12 at 15:59:24
It's funny that I have two relatives in the military, and a friend, and none of them speak of "Operation Urban Warrior". Another fabricatious arguement created by you?
*Nods*
*Nods*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-12 at 16:02:13
Actually only in one part of those videos are they actors, and he clearly says so. That part is the urban warrior. To have people say that their rights are being violated and that they want food and water is farked up. to have the troops ignore them. Terrorists or not, its our most basic rights that say they cannot detain without evidence or warrant, and the protection against unwanted seizures and such. BTW thank you so much arbitrary for that vid. Watching it at the moment. I also have another vid. In it it shows alex at one of bush's speeches as a govenor of texas. He asks a question and for it is arrested.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/august...4alexwarned.htm
BTW guys, the link i posted earlier: http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/introduction.html
On it it shows how it could only be demolition. The fact the towers went straight down, the path of the most resistance, how structured steel burns ta 1500 degrees celsius and since the flames were oxygen starved (being they were very black and dark) could not of been higher then 800 degrees celsius. Also how since the top rode the destruction down and shattered at the bottom, why would the ceiling blow off?
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/august...4alexwarned.htm
BTW guys, the link i posted earlier: http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/introduction.html
On it it shows how it could only be demolition. The fact the towers went straight down, the path of the most resistance, how structured steel burns ta 1500 degrees celsius and since the flames were oxygen starved (being they were very black and dark) could not of been higher then 800 degrees celsius. Also how since the top rode the destruction down and shattered at the bottom, why would the ceiling blow off?