Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-26 at 22:47:39
That.......... I really don't know since Hitler was also partical Jewish 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2006-01-27 at 02:16:03
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Jan 25 2006, 09:09 PM)
I'm sorry, I haven't read much since I don't have the time at present.
Hitler was anything but a Genius. It was not him that came up with all the technology, the strategies, the deathplans. They were all people 'under' him who did the great deeds. If anything, he was the face of the Empire, holding no real power but pleasing the people.
My greatest example is near the time of the Invasion of Normandy. Hitler was so utterly certain the attack would be headed at the northern peninsula, that he denied his generals the permission to fortify any area other than it. When Normandy was invaded, he still kept this theory, claiming that it was a distraction for the true landing force, which would occur at the northern peninsula. He also denied permission for many possible counterattacks that could have uprooted the Allies's hold on the beaches of Normandy, possibly even driving them back.
Another great example is the command to invade Russia. Oh, the moron. He lost almost litterally half his army in that invasion, and received no prize for the loss. Better yet, he had a treaty with Russia. Why in the bloody hell would you do it, man?
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Hitler was anything but a Genius. It was not him that came up with all the technology, the strategies, the deathplans. They were all people 'under' him who did the great deeds. If anything, he was the face of the Empire, holding no real power but pleasing the people.
My greatest example is near the time of the Invasion of Normandy. Hitler was so utterly certain the attack would be headed at the northern peninsula, that he denied his generals the permission to fortify any area other than it. When Normandy was invaded, he still kept this theory, claiming that it was a distraction for the true landing force, which would occur at the northern peninsula. He also denied permission for many possible counterattacks that could have uprooted the Allies's hold on the beaches of Normandy, possibly even driving them back.
Another great example is the command to invade Russia. Oh, the moron. He lost almost litterally half his army in that invasion, and received no prize for the loss. Better yet, he had a treaty with Russia. Why in the bloody hell would you do it, man?
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Thats very true in general. Hitler was just the leader and probably it was everyone below him who did the work. They just follower Hitlers policies.
However, lets take a look at america. Bush is said to have stopped this potencial terrorist attack. (Don't ask me what because I forget.) Obvisouly bush didn't do jack shiz and some CIA dude did or something did. The leader of the country always takes the hits and falls and a lot of the time they take the glory as well if they can. Thats just how it works.
Its never been proven that Hitler was a jew as far as I know. Its just a humor thats floating around to make Hitler seem more crazy or whatever.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-27 at 16:45:26
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jan 17 2006, 11:45 PM)
Riddle me this: If he's such a genius, why did he lose the war? Why didn't he invade England before attacking Russia?
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His attempts at england werent going well. England had invented the radar, giving a huge advantage. The blitzierg or watever its called (the tactic of hitlers fighting) would not work against england. So he went for russia, underestimating their forces.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-01-27 at 17:08:33
Actually, it was not thier forces he underestimated but rather their tactics. For the most part, Russian forces steadily retreated towards Moscow, buring the crops on their way.
In this way, the Germans were kept low on food. As Winter crept in, supply lines were weakened by the heavy snow, and thus the Germans began to starve, as well as die of things such as frostbite without proper medical supplies.
In this way, the Germans were kept low on food. As Winter crept in, supply lines were weakened by the heavy snow, and thus the Germans began to starve, as well as die of things such as frostbite without proper medical supplies.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2006-01-27 at 17:23:31
Eh, Hitler being brilliant is stretching it. I've read some of Mein Kampf, and I did a short analysis of it in Western Civ class, and he doesn't sound intellegent. He joined the war because art school wouldn't take him. He was 'blind' until the day Germany lost World War One, and all of a sudden he could see again. And he attacked Russia. What a moron! I mean...so many other leaders (except the Japanese, really) failed.
However...he did know how to get what he wanted. That's really the only good point I see.
However...he did know how to get what he wanted. That's really the only good point I see.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-27 at 17:53:41
QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Jan 27 2006, 02:08 PM)
Actually, it was not thier forces he underestimated but rather their tactics. For the most part, Russian forces steadily retreated towards Moscow, buring the crops on their way.
In this way, the Germans were kept low on food. As Winter crept in, supply lines were weakened by the heavy snow, and thus the Germans began to starve, as well as die of things such as frostbite without proper medical supplies.
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In this way, the Germans were kept low on food. As Winter crept in, supply lines were weakened by the heavy snow, and thus the Germans began to starve, as well as die of things such as frostbite without proper medical supplies.
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Ah k. But russia had more forces than hitler anyway, so the casualties for russia werent as big of a hit as they were to hitler.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2006-01-27 at 18:59:02
Either way Hitler did in credibly well and caused a hell of a lot of destruction. Hitler made the same mistake as Napolean did so I guess you couldn't say he was an ingenious at history.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-27 at 19:03:22
Can we get a lock or something? This thread stopped having any point to it about 40 posts in.
No one has given any real evidence that he was a genius. Those supporting this idea are branding a combination of coincidence and charisma as genius.
No one has given any real evidence that he was a genius. Those supporting this idea are branding a combination of coincidence and charisma as genius.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-01-27 at 19:49:17
QUOTE(5(U) @ Jan 18 2006, 01:04 AM)
his war strategies were really good too.. he started with nothing and became one of the most ingenious country leader who commanded the whole europa (for a while)
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No : An expression of denial.
His war strategies sucked ass. Ever hear of the "Battle of Britain" ? How 'bout the Korsun Pocket?
For those of you who do not know, Hitler made a directive known as "Not One Step Back", where his forces could under NO circumstances, retreat. In the Korsun Pocket, the Germans were trapped on all sides by Soviet forces. The only sane response would have been a violent break-out attempt, however the directive prevented the Germans from doing this, since they'd get shot for it by their own friends. So... they died.
Battle of Britain? Horrible strategic mistake. The Battle of Britain was the wrong thing to do. Why send in a shizload of fighters to take out a country? Fighters don't kill countries. Why not be smart, and instead of wasting resources over an attack that is doomed to failure, invade the country? The Battle of Britain was doomed to failure because, let's face it: Airplanes are not tanks. They can't take over countries.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-01-27 at 20:54:56
The original intention of the Battle of Britain was to destroy the RAF so that a German invasion fleet could land without being bombed to pieces. Hitler made a characteristic blunder however, when he raged over a night-time RAF raid on Berlin, and decided to make the Battle of Britain a battle of demoralisation by bombing towns. This gave the RAF (which was almost defeated) a chance to regroup and repulse the Luftwaffe, which they did, causing Operation Sea Lion to be called off.
I'm not familiar with the Korsun Pocket, but it does sound like the kind of thing Hitler would order his army to do.
I'm not familiar with the Korsun Pocket, but it does sound like the kind of thing Hitler would order his army to do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-27 at 21:14:30
The Reason why Hitler lost was that, was partically his Luftwaffe General fault. (SomethingKreig) anyways his plan was to send a couple of plains with bombers each time they plan to bomb a specific spot, their bombs would land anywhere in britian. they'd ususally send 5 groups each time and constantly bomb the country.
Although these didn't work as well since the British Fighters came in large groups to whipe out the bombers and fighters before they bomb the cities. The British majorly whiped out a part of the German Airforce during WW II.
Hmmmmmmm I still wonder why didn't Adolf Hitler just perform operation Sea Lion by, sending Aircrafts first to patrol the area from airfighters as the Gemans then land their troops all along the shores of Great Britian. By first unloading Tanks and A-A Mobile Turrets and creating a Campbase at the British Shore before advancing close to London. O well the Auxillary would probably of screwed the German troops anyways.
Although these didn't work as well since the British Fighters came in large groups to whipe out the bombers and fighters before they bomb the cities. The British majorly whiped out a part of the German Airforce during WW II.
Hmmmmmmm I still wonder why didn't Adolf Hitler just perform operation Sea Lion by, sending Aircrafts first to patrol the area from airfighters as the Gemans then land their troops all along the shores of Great Britian. By first unloading Tanks and A-A Mobile Turrets and creating a Campbase at the British Shore before advancing close to London. O well the Auxillary would probably of screwed the German troops anyways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-27 at 21:17:59
My imaginary god, stop speculating about something you know nothing about.
And the Luftwaffe commander was Herman Göering, not "Something-war"
And the Luftwaffe commander was Herman Göering, not "Something-war"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-01-27 at 21:25:51
Lol... about BoB, they should have kept attacking the airfields, they were wearing down the RAF mightly
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kp.ZpfW-PanzerIII on 2006-01-29 at 04:02:23
Hitler wasnt a Genuis, All he did was invade little unsuspecting countrys. Then he invaded France.. Which was already shiz from WW I. Then when the real war started ( His invasion of Russia ) He was actually fighting a worth opponent. And lost 
. Then he was invaded by another slightly worthy opponent america, Now he had to fight both theese slightly worthy opponents. And he was addicted to antifedimines and such impering his aibility to make proper decission, aganist his two, slighty worthy opponents 
. Then during all this, A couple jews were killed.
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What I think happend during BoB, was the Germans were to coffident in there technology, and there belive that they could PwnZ0r any one.
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But, The British had a stupid cause or something so they countinued the attacks aganist the Germans who were probaly not trying, kinda
. Then he was invaded by another slightly worthy opponent america, Now he had to fight both theese slightly worthy opponents. And he was addicted to antifedimines and such impering his aibility to make proper decission, aganist his two, slighty worthy opponents . Then during all this, A couple jews were killed.ADDITION:
What I think happend during BoB, was the Germans were to coffident in there technology, and there belive that they could PwnZ0r any one
.ADDITION:
But, The British had a stupid cause or something so they countinued the attacks aganist the Germans who were probaly not trying, kinda
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-01-29 at 13:05:31
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ADDITION:
What I think happend during BoB, was the Germans were to coffident in there technology, and there belive that they could PwnZ0r any one smile.gif.
ADDITION:
But, The British had a stupid cause or something so they countinued the attacks aganist the Germans who were probaly not trying, kinda
What I think happend during BoB, was the Germans were to coffident in there technology, and there belive that they could PwnZ0r any one smile.gif.
ADDITION:
But, The British had a stupid cause or something so they countinued the attacks aganist the Germans who were probaly not trying, kinda
Ok? 1st part right... 2nd part WTF MATE? Dun understand it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-01-29 at 18:28:33
QUOTE(Arbitrary @ Jan 28 2006, 02:17 AM)
My imaginary god, stop speculating about something you know nothing about.
And the Luftwaffe commander was Herman Göering, not "Something-war"
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Indeed - Hermann Göering - quite possibly the most inept military commander or economist or foreign secretary ever. I don't see why Hitler gave him all the plum jobs when he knew he was so bad at them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-29 at 20:40:23
Göering was one of the key original members of the Nazi party at the time of their rise to power. Of course, it probably had something to do with his complete willingness to order the deaths of Jews as well. He purportedly even executed a few himself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2006-01-29 at 22:42:16
If hitler's a genius, then my ass must be einstein!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-01-31 at 19:37:06
QUOTE(Arbitrary @ Jan 30 2006, 01:40 AM)
Göering was one of the key original members of the Nazi party at the time of their rise to power. Of course, it probably had something to do with his complete willingness to order the deaths of Jews as well. He purportedly even executed a few himself.
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Hmm, you're right. Göring got his lofty positions by brown-nosing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2006-02-09 at 22:23:49
Warning:Offtopicness
Sense i cant find the topc "what would happen if hitler won the war"
I guess ill post this.
YOu know its true . He might be a genius in some ways... Like this, Its strict! With strict/Disiplen, the world wouldnt have any problems. Fear is a very powerfull thing, You know.
Sense i cant find the topc "what would happen if hitler won the war"
I guess ill post this.
YOu know its true . He might be a genius in some ways... Like this, Its strict! With strict/Disiplen, the world wouldnt have any problems. Fear is a very powerfull thing, You know.Report, edit, etc...Posted by 5(U) on 2006-02-11 at 20:42:18
QUOTE(Zombie @ Feb 9 2006, 10:23 PM)
Warning:Offtopicness
Sense i cant find the topc "what would happen if hitler won the war"
I guess ill post this.
YOu know its true . He might be a genius in some ways... Like this, Its strict! With strict/Disiplen, the world wouldnt have any problems. Fear is a very powerfull thing, You know.
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Sense i cant find the topc "what would happen if hitler won the war"
I guess ill post this.
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This image was inspirated of george orwell's 1984 novel and aldous huxley's Brave New World novel..
really.. if someone else read these 2 books.. he'll understand what i mean.. this image is a mix of these too..
but i dont see the link with hitler's intelligence..
and about "what would happen if hitler won the war"
i dont think it would be like this..
this image makes me think of what will happen if people like bush stays on command of that country for too long..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BLISSARD[VdD] on 2006-02-11 at 20:59:38
I believe that Hitler is a very confident, courage, ambitious, valour, etc. because the dream of living in a world of only people with blue eyes, and blond hair is so impossible, but he live his dream and try to accomplish it and didn't give up no matter what...
...but then it was too stupid because if you know its impossible, why would you try to do it... Don't listen to the quote"nothing is impossible", because it is not true, it's impossible. "You must always define your strength and see whether if its possible or not to sustain." I love quotes, I love good quotes not stupid quotes though.
...but then it was too stupid because if you know its impossible, why would you try to do it... Don't listen to the quote"nothing is impossible", because it is not true, it's impossible. "You must always define your strength and see whether if its possible or not to sustain." I love quotes, I love good quotes not stupid quotes though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-11 at 21:04:43
QUOTE(5(U) @ Feb 11 2006, 06:42 PM)
this image makes me think of what will happen if people like bush stays on command of that country for too long..
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-18 at 10:54:01
I'm not sure. So what if he's a genius? He isn't smart enough to see that Jews and Germans are equal. He's stupid for all I care.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-02-18 at 11:38:52
He had psychological problems...